What say you, people? How is the debate going? Don’t leave me hanging, give me your impressions! I can’t be there right now, but I need to know what’s happening.
The Post-NH Hillary / Bernie Debate
Opinions, art, debate
Opinions, art, debate
What say you, people? How is the debate going? Don’t leave me hanging, give me your impressions! I can’t be there right now, but I need to know what’s happening.
Clarissa's Blog 
Very boring debate so far. Nobody’s fired up or even raising his/her voice.
Wait a minute — Bernie’s trying (not very hard) to cast shade on Hillary for Wall Street.
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I’m glad I’m not missing anything important, then. What kind of a meek debate is it, anyway?
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Hillary: Madeleine Albright has been insulting women for 25 years, so that excuses her latest sexist statement.
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What latest sexist statement??
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Here’s an exact quote from the Hillary-Albright rally several days ago:
“There’s a special place in hell for women who don’t help each other” — meaning women who dare to vote for a non-woman candidate like Bernie.
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That’s not a sexist statement.
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How is “You’re going to hell if you vote for a male candidate instead of our gal Hillary!” not sexist???
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Shallow notes: Men can pretty much wear the same suit every day. Like Bernie is with his new haircut. Hillary’s makeup and wardrobe people fell down. Her foundation is too pale(which makes her looks peaked) and that shade of yellow does not work with her face and hair (but it would work on Gwen Ifill).
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Hillary’s wardrobe has been great but it’s hard to keep to the same standard all the time!
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She should do something bold like actually wearing a dress or a skirt to a debate!
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At 68, it requires the courage of a man of the same age showing up in shorts.
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Plus skirts and dresses usually call for uncomfortable shoes. A debate is a long time to put up with aching feet.
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She’s wearing Bruce Lee’s yellow jumpsuit from Enter The Dragon. A most excellent choice!
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Good point by Bernie calling out Republican “small government” hypocrisy on abortion — but at this point he still needs to go after Hillary, not the Repubs.
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931: Somehow Bernie had to mention Mary jane in this question.
Hillary mentions a specific local victim. She mentions the state role. Mentions systemic factors.
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Sanders speaks about his “first term” — obviously hopes to leave office on his feet as the oldest President in U.S. history.
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Right now I’m just giving overall impressions.
Bernie: schools and jobs not drugs.
This “How are you better than Obama on race” is leading. HRC is not taking the bait. Sanders: Wall Street hit minorities disproportionately. He goes to economic issues. He actually says race relations will be better under him
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Bernie will keep flat-footing on the race question for as long as he can.
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Bernie’s doing very well so far.
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He nailed he on her refusal to let Central American children fleeing from cartel violence enter the country.
‘You don’t use children to send a message’. Powerful.
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Half of my feed is watching Scandal instead.
Hillary: Lawyers for children re: Guatemalan child refugees.
Bern: Medicare for all! He’s really evoking old person scarcity.HRC : Social Security disadvantages women (explains). Bern: Why won’t you endorse my plan. HRC : Your plan lacks specifics.
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I’d love to hear the part about social security and women. Although I just discovered that for some reason I will not be entitled to social security.
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Is it because you work for the state? And therefore are instead covered under state retirement? I forget the reasoning behind that setup. I guess we could Google it. Maybe you will be covered under N (if you are married)?
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An hour into the debate, and both candidates are sleepwalking through it like they’re on Valium. This isn’t a debate — it’s a love-in!
Bernie: I agree with her on…
Hillary: We’re in “vigorous agreement” on…
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Oh! How cute is that? This is a great preparation for the general election.
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Perhaps you’d be more comfortable in a format where candidates call each other pussies all night.
These are two intelligent people debating policies. You’re not the target audience.
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Well, I’m hearing that the insult contest is in tomorrow night! Christie won’t be there unfortunately. I’ll miss his talented bashing of Rubio.
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Saturday night. You get a 48-hour break.
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Clinton’s strategy for this debate is so say ‘I agree’ on issues she’s shaky on. Smart.
Bernie recognizes that, and pointing out specific disagreements now.
Both very smart people.
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“Are you beholden to George Soros”
HRC touts her small donors gives a h/t to Bern’s donors.
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As a small donor to both of them, I’m glad to hear it. 🙂
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Clinton: “Obama took so much money from Wall street, but still took on Wall St head on”.
lol.
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Bern: My donors contribute the avg of the starter level of PBS.
HRC: Obama had the most Wall St donations on 2008. He passed Dodd Frank.
Bern: Please. Dodd Frank is weak.
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Smart enough to put the audience to sleep. Listen to the incredibly tepid audience applause. This is the most boring debate since Al Gore said, “I agree to everything he said” in the second Bush-Gore debate of 2000.
Ah, now Hillary is starting to get mad and shout — about time!
Now Bernie seems to be waking up, too…
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Bern is coughing strategically during HRC’s answer.
Teddy Roosevelt would kick the banks’ ass.!
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Bernie was so close to saying ‘You, mam, are no Ted Kennedy’ there. 😀
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That’s true — Hillary never drowned anybody.
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Hillary doing too much agreeing: ‘Between the two of us…’
Yeah, and between the two of us, Sergei Bubka and I both have multiple olympic gold medals in pole vaulting!
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Oh, is it time to start being clever? Did Sergei drown somebody, too?
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Love the Bubka joke.
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Public tv: The commercial break is a highlights reel of the debate.
The talking heads: the women of the Cooke report and concerned Indian dude anchor.
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How would you cut the government? Bern says he’s for efficiencies and HRC’s against duplications. Bern: Cut the DoD.
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(Sigh.) Bernie bringing up the Iraq war vote again…
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We’re on to the NINE-ELEVEN!!!! section of the debate. Both sides are like:
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Bernie: ‘Russian economy is in shambles and Putin is being aggressive in Crimea and Ukraine to gin up support from Russian citizens. US and NATO should match his aggression, build up troop levels over there’.
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Bernie finally said something intelligent — except that he apparently believes that “Crimea” and “Ukraine” are two different geopolitical identities.
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Bernie said that?? Wow. Today is a day of good surprises.
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Clinton with a disgusting cheap shot at Sanders. Came out of nowhere.
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I just turned it on and they are both yelling at each other. And here I expected a peaceful debate.
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Bernie apparently caught a cold in NH.
HRC: We support NATO and the EU and we should vet refugees.
Bern: I saw a Syrian refugee camp. Horrible. Props to Turkey. Shame on the Republicans for turning away women and children. This is a worldwide problem.
Bern: My leader role models are FDR. Bern’s Depression Era roots are showing here. Churchill for standing against the Nazis.
HRC: Mandela. Stop attacking Obama.
Bern: I’m friends with Obama and worked with him and to elect and reelect him.
HRC: You wanted to primary him. Bern: You actually ran in a primary against him
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The lighting is ridiculous on this stage. Both candidates look like they have risen from the dead. I understand it’s public TV but seriously?
And I love Hillary’s jacket even though it would look extraordinarily bad on me.
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Hillary is losing the argument about whether it’s appropriate for a Democrat to criticize a Democratic President — but she may be successfully appealing to the specific target vote that she needs to win in South Carolina and beyond.
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It’s not A president. It’s the president who is for Democrats already what Reagan is for Republicans.
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Well, I hear a racial dog whistle in Hillary’s words condemning criticism of Obama. Hillary has her own “Southern strategy.”
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Exactly. Looks very obvious and fake but it’ll work.
This from a candidate who in 2008 circulated pictures of Obama in Indonesian attire (I think) wearing some sort of a turban, insinuating he was secretly a muslim.
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It will work because his words are making a very bad impression. Especially since the only reason he attacks Obama is to avoid answering the crucial question of how he plans to achieve his goals in the face of the recalcitrant congress.
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Bernie would never be racist or sexist on purpose. He’s too good a person for that. But as many people of his generation he doesn’t stop to think how his words sound from the other side. And it might be too late for him to learn.
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https://twitter.com/jbouie/status/697990155106279424
https://twitter.com/anamariecox/status/697994012649598976
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Hey, history is written by the winners. Churchill’s memoirs of WWII are still considered historical classics 70 years after the end of the war.
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Those tweets are a prime example of “dude from a different generation isn’t thinking how his words might be perceived from the other side.” These kinds of questions are designed to elicit calculated answers.
I don’t really fault him. As an approximate war baby with parents who lived through the Great Depression and as someone who had relatives die in the Holocaust, he’d support FDR for his social programs and almost anyone who stood against the Nazis.
If he said Wilson, I’m sure some Mexican-Americans wouldn’t be too thrilled either.
I’m not sure HRC would pick Mandela if she wasn’t in front of a bunch of cameras.
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Clinton supports unions now, apparently.
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Sanders is running against low fat milk. (1%)
HRC: I’m not a single issue candidate. Gives a passionate speech about civil right issues.
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“Bernie would never be racist or sexist on purpose. He’s too good a person for that.”
Wish I could say that about Clinton, though.
This is the ‘Obama is a muslim’ picture her campaign circulated in 2008 primaries.
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2008 was 8 years ago. It’s relevance can’t begin to be compared to what happens today.
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Yes, those blabby, uppity women, how dare they speak in the presence of men.
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I think you’re misinterpreting this tweet. The guy is saying that she knows so much about the world that she can be extemporaneous about anything concerning world affairs. Makes it look effortless.
Compare that with Bernie who gave us a short history lesson on Iran tonight which looked totally memorized.
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