I’m not a huge fan of Rick Perry’s, to put it very mildly, but I think this kind of ad is absolutely disgusting:
I found the ad here. Apparently it has been paid for by Robert Morrow, a supporter of Ron Paul from Texas. Can people get any lower than this?
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Can people get any lower than this?
In Texas?
Lyndon Baines Johnson: Let’s tell people he has sex with his pigs!
Campaign Staffer: Why?! It’s not true, is it??!
LBJ: OF COURSE it’s not true! But let’s make the bastard DENY it
I was expecting to hear this had been paid for by some progressive/feminist campaigning group actually
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Well, thank you for having such a great opinion of feminists and progressives. 🙂
I take your point about Texas, though. It does sound like a very special place. I heard they wanted to secede. That sounds like an idea I could get behind.
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That’s that troll David K. Otherwise I’d point out that the language in that poster isn’t something a progressive / feminist group would come up with. It’s reactionaries fighting among themselves, very clearly.
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I don’t know. These are Bible Belt kids who were offended by Nueve Reinas (because the characters use “bad words.”) This will be way too explicit for their innocent souls. 🙂
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An especially trolling accusation there Z 😉
I may have a bit of a tin ear for American progressive language, but to me it sounds a lot like the sort of thing I’ve read on American feminist / progressive blogs when they’re attacking Straight White Males who rail against gay people and preach fidelity, abstinence and clean living in public, but then are caught screwing prostitutes / the baby sitter / strange men in public rest rooms…
“entitled” “Christian-buzzwords-spouting family values hypocrite and fraud.”
that just sounds more like an attack from a social liberal to me.
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Much lower. Swift Boaters, for example. Or google Lee Atwater.
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Googled Lee Atwater. Feel completely floored and kind of despondent.
Now feel sorry that I ever found out. Brrrrr.
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Gah, for the millionth time, a politician’s sex life is none of my business! All I care about are their policies!
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Apparent;y, there are too many people who aren’t capable of understanding policies, so they prefer to concentrate on sex. And then, of course, we have the politics we do. 😦
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But if he violates his own policies, we should know that!
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Don’t we know already that the guy is a crazed maniac and a nasty hypocrite? How much more evidence is needed?
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Rick Perry is the governor of Texas. I rest my case.
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Exactly.
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So they (voters) don’t know enough.
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For the “family values” voter, pretty much get caught in the act.
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But, if the goal is to defeat an unacceptable candidate…well, politics is the art of the possible, not the art of the possible for people with good taste and decency.
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The problem that I have is that this is the kind of info that can defeat this guy. Not everything he has said and done so far, which really should be enough.
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Can anyone get lower than this? Sure. From Huffpo:
Two weeks before Thanksgiving in 2003, top officials from Texas Governor Rick Perry’s office pitched an unusual offer to the state’s retired teachers: Let’s get into the death business.
Perry’s budget director, Mike Morrissey, laid out a pitch that was both ambitious and risky, according to notes summarizing the meeting provided to The Huffington Post.
According to the notes, which were authenticated by a meeting participant, the Perry administration wanted to help Wall Street investors gamble on how long retired Texas teachers would live. Perry was promising the state big money in exchange for helping Swiss banking giant UBS set up a business of teacher death speculation.
Check it out at:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/25/rick-perry-texas-life-insurance-scheme_n_935666.html
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This cannot be true. No no no. I refuse to believe it.
Like we say in my country: “Don’t scare the ostrich because the floor in his cage is made of metal.”
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Ostriches live in the Ukraine ?
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No, but we have television. 🙂 🙂 We have even heard of Americans, believe it or not. 🙂
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Oh, come now, Clarissa. Remember a rabidly anti-abortion, ‘family values’ type female was running for office in Florida, and the Democrats handed around posters about her being a terrible choice because she isn’t married and doesn’t have children — and therefore is a horrible conservative female role-model? I remember you arguing that if she can persecute her female constituents with a rigid conservative agenda (refusing them safe and legal abortions, dismissing violence against women etc) then she deserved to have that agenda used against her.
And I kind of agreed with your idea of justice then, though most commentators didn’t. This isn’t much different. If Perry persecutes his constituents by stigmatising sex or sex outside heterosexual marriage, then he’s laying himself wide open to unethical cheap-shots like this. And there’s a certain equitable sordidness about it.
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In the Florida case, the politician’s opponents used her own qwords against her. I don’t remember them trying to conduct an investigation. There is a difference here, I believe.
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Generally, I’m against that kind of stuff but in this very case, I understand his logic. If Rick Perry has an un-Christian behavior, we should know about that.
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What’s so unChristian about having a vibrant sex life and tons of great gay partners? Christian God is the God of love. I’m sure Jesus would support sexual happiness.
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Maybe you’re right about Jesus, but you must be sarcastic.
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Or maybe she didn’t get that *you* were being sarcastic about Perry’s proposed ‘Christianity’, David =)
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Yes, I have no sense of humor.
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No, I’m absolutely serious.
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Didn’t you see how he launched his presidency with a “Prayers Day” in a stadium, filled with 30000 people?. I honestly hope they find a few strippers on him, he thinks natural law (the law of God) is above everything else.
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Christianity is monogamist and homophobic by definition.
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Whose definition?
Give me one quote from Jesus on these subjects. Except the one where he defends an adulterous woman and makes her his disciple.
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I talk about christian institutions.
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Then, of course, I agree. I hate them. And so, I’m sure, does Jesus. 🙂
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As much as I would like to see Rick Perry nailed, I have to question the tactics. I love hearing interviews with and reading novels of Carlos Fuentes, but my feminist professor friend says he is a mujeriego. (She says worse things about Octavio Paz.) Why do we believe that argumentum ad hominem defeats the argument of the other side. The policies he advocates are complete garbage. If those policies were proposed by a spotless angel, should be accept them?
Case in point. We are about to dedicate a statue to Martin Luther King, Jr. on the national mall in Washington, D.C. I was active in the civil rights movement in the 1960s. I met and was in meetings with him. If there ever was a mujeriego, it was Dr. King. He loved women, especially white women. He smoked like a chimney. Do these things negate the policies that he advocated? Should civil rights and human rights be sacrificed because he did not honor his wedding vows and was not a good health model?
During the 2008 campaign I remember hearing Andrew Young, former civil rights leader and US Ambassador to the UN say that Bill Clinton had every right to be considered the “first black President” since he had slept with more black women than Obama. I almost drove off the road. What does that have to do with his policies?
Let’s go after Rick Perry’s policies, Michelle Bachman’s policies, Nikki Haley’s policies, not who they sleep with.
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“We are about to dedicate a statue to Martin Luther King, Jr. on the national mall in Washington, D.C. I was active in the civil rights movement in the 1960s. I met and was in meetings with him. ”
-Wow. That must have been such a great experience.
“He loved women, especially white women. He smoked like a chimney. Do these things negate the policies that he advocated?”
-My favorite poet Francisco de Quevedo was a woman-hater and a vile anti-Semite. These are two qualities that I particularly abhor. However, they don’t deny the fact that he wrote amazing poetry.
We can’t start caring about personal and moral failings of people in areas that have nothing to do with those moral failings. There are so many things that Perry and Bachmann can be legitimately criticized for. So I agree we should concentrate on those.
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