Those Darn Bigots

At least, there is one journalist somewhere who managed to feel bad about mobbing the Covington kids:

The men, who looked to be in their 30s or 40s, maybe younger, were taunting the kids from Covington High. Perhaps thinking he had a message that would really resonate with kids in MAGA hats, the man who seems to be leading the group tells the kids to look up some videos on YouTube of Donald Trump kissing Rudy Giuliani. “Your president is a homosexual,” he yells out, probably, like me, expecting the kids to object.

And that is when I started to get confused, because the reaction from the boys wasn’t disgust or even protest. Instead, several of them spoke out, “Who cares?” “Yeah, who cares?”

“Your president is a homosexual,” the street preacher yells back. “You give faggots rights,” and then, the crowd of MAGA hat-wearing boys actually starts booing. “The Bible condemns homosexuality,” the street preacher yells, and one of the boys calls out, “They’re still human!”

Those bigoted Nazi religious fanatics! Defending gay people! How dare they!

The really funny thing is that there were real bigots in that video. A real hate group according to SPLC. Spewing homophobic and racist slurs. But people were so fixated on red hats that they somehow missed it all.

I suggest reading the whole linked article by a very liberal journalist because it shows what a crass liar the lionized Mr Phillips is. I so hope this would serve as a lesson and people will at least take a pause before jumping on the next outrage bandwagon.

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20 thoughts on “Those Darn Bigots”

  1. Nobody’s ignoring the hate group among people I know. It’s actually the one thing that unites us all; no matter how we feel about the Cov Cath kids, we hate those guys and agree that they were the worst people of all. I expect people in most areas have moved on from this story though.

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    1. You have a better circle of acquaintance than I do. Of all the people wailing about this story on my FB, not a single person mentioned the real bigots. I had no idea they were even there until I saw the original long video.

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      1. Originally no one was talking about them because the long video wasn’t available and/or widely distributed yet, but now that it is available people know about those guys. People here are following the story much more intensely than they are where you are, that’s the main difference. I did see one woman claiming that the boys engaging with those men was “white entitlement,” but I’m pretty sure they were just doing what most teens would do; if they were liberals, they’d be championed for standing up to bigotry. The chaperones even gave them permission, when they should’ve moved them somewhere else. The failure of the chaperones during all this is the real story for me. One of them was 20 feet away and doing nothing, another was filming everything on his cellphone, and I don’t know what the other chaperones were up to.

        What is odd that I see from conservatives is saying the black men were being assholes to the boys, therefore of course they retaliated by being assholes to the Native Americans. These are two different groups of people and all they have in common is not being white. If you want to justify the boys’ actions, do it in a way that makes sense. For me nothing justifies the boys acting racist, but funnily enough the boy who’s attracting most of the ire was the one who wasn’t racistly mocking Phillips, and I think the video very much exonerates him.

        I will say people don’t care all that deeply about the Black Israelites because they aren’t from the Cincinnati area, but that’s to be expected. Also crazy, hateful street preachers exist in every big city, so not all that newsworthy on its own. But racist douchebags are also common nationwide and should not newsworthy to people outside of this area.

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        1. I’ve taken high schoolers on field trips to the city and you are absolutely right, the adult chaperone should be a lot more engaged. If anybody tried to film the kids I was with or engage with them at all, they had to go through me because they were my responsibility on those trips. And it was just me chaperoning 24 teenagers around NYC.

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  2. “Nobody’s ignoring the hate group among people I know. ”

    Really? Do a Google or Twitter search of some of the well-known liberal and lefty websites, and see how many mea culpas and retractions you’ll find!

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    1. Do you not understand the phrase “people I know?” I don’t know the people who run liberal and lefty websites. I do know people who live near Covington Catholic and are following this story intensely.

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      1. “Do you not understand the phrase ‘people I know?’”

        My reading comprehension is fine, thanks. But your reply to Clarissa’s post suggested to me that you were unaware of the reaction of the public liberal media, since that’s what her post was about.

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        1. No, I was specifically just talking about people in my local area, who I realize are not representative of the general public, but then again, neither is twitter.

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  3. Since I know I’d be interested to hear about how people in your area would react if they made the news for something like this, I’ll share more local tidbits. I’d that some people are happy this made the news not just because of a general love of witch hunts (though obviously there’s that), but because kids from the school constantly evade accountability for their actions. With public pressure, this might change. I don’t know if people realize how long this kind of social media shaming can follow someone around, or if they care; they probably figure he’ll be fine in the end no matter what, and they may be right considering how loaded his family is, but who knows.

    I personally do hope that this shines a light on the adults at that school; I look forward to all the chaperones getting their comeuppance, and if we’re really lucky maybe we’ll see institutional change in the school or even the entire Covington Archdiocese. So even though I feel bad for the kids, I hope that at least some good will come of it; this shines a light on local problems that people like to push under the rug. This isn’t me condoning anything, just looking for the silver lining. Nobody involved deserves national scrutiny but they do deserve our local scrutiny.

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    1. I’m very grateful for the insight. It’s very valuable. One often misses the local particulars in a story that goes national. I remember when the Michael Brown story broke, and it was just a few miles from where I am, and people were getting much of it wrong because they don’t know the area. Plus, people project their own stuff on things that happen elsewhere.

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      1. Ultimately, people are going to have limited sympathy for kids who go to an $8,000 a year private school, and I think that’s understandable (the family of the main boy even has a PR firm helping them through this; woe is them!) We’re tired of Cov Cath kids harassing people who go to other schools and generally being little assholes and never getting in any trouble for it. They even let a rapist walk at graduation (at least that guy got in trouble with the law, if not his school.) So it’s rather satisfying, which is why it was easy to buy into the initial narrative (and why, to some degree, we continue to rag on them.)

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      2. There are also always racial tensions boiling just beneath the surface here. Racism is a huge problem, we’re one of the most segregated cities in America and black people live in abject poverty, but white people don’t ever want to talk about it. Largely they’re scared to touch the topic ever since the race riots in 2001 (the poor black neighborhood where those riots happened is now overrun with wealthy hipsters who don’t socialize with their black neighbors.) There’s even a common term for the quiet racism and fear of talking about race here, “Cincinnati polite.”

        So now, for reasons that really don’t have much to do with anything that happened in DC, people are annoyed at people wanting to make excuses for the boys and say they’re not racist because they’re just tired of people refusing to talk about racism here.

        Not sure if I explained that well, but I tried.

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        1. I know what you mean. I’m in Metro St Louis area and I’m an a middle-class suburb that looks like paradise. And 20 miles from here it’s East St Louis which looks worse than Southeastern Ukraine, and that’s saying a lot because Southeastern Ukraine is in very bad shape. But nobody is talking about it. It’s like it doesn’t exist. Americans are very touchy about race and it gets ridiculous. The moment you try to say anything it’s all, what are you trying to be, a white savior? Or, you are an immigrant, what do you know about it. And in the end nobody says or does anything except for useless platitudes about structural racism that you can repeat for decades and nothing changes. So yeah.

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          1. For me it’s most staggering when it’s inequality within your own neighborhood that you mange to ignore. You don’t have to drive 20 minutes to be in another world, it’s usually in walking distance.

            During the mayor’s race, white progressives’ top issue was…the streetcar. And that’s usually how it goes. They might pay lip service to caring about racism but in reality they don’t care. We’d all prefer they just be honest and say so.

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  4. It’s interesting to see that the outrage mongers are rallying this morning (in Slate and Deadspin, and I assume elsewhere) insisting that your your first reaction to call for the kids heads based on 10 seconds of footage was RIGHT and everyone saying that it’s more complicated is an EVIL RACIST.

    They must be terrified by the possibility that “Hmm, maybe jumping to join online mobs to feed my out of control rage addiction even when I know nothing about the incident in question” might start to catch on.

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    1. OOps, that was meant to be:

      They must be terrified by the possibility that “Hmm, maybe jumping to join online mobs to feed my out of control rage addiction even when I know nothing about the incident in question isn’t the greatest idea after all.” might start to catch on.

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  5. To be honest, the progressive discourse from the US that I can access seems to swing wildly back and forth between irrelevant dumb trivia (that makes you feel stupid if you try to address it) and the insane ramblings of a mental patient drooling in a corner… I have no idea how to engage with it without giving up a large part of my brain.

    How do they expect to win elections with this?

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    1. That’s precisely why they are screeching so loudly about Nazism. If you convince people that there are Nazis around every corner, then they might just vote for a vapid Instagram persona like Kamala Harris who offers nothing but a promise to fight against the non-existent Nazism.

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