Warren apologized to the Cherokee Nation. This is very good. I’m glad she did the right thing. Now she needs to apologize to the American people for the fraud she perpetrated for decades, stiffing people by laying claims to an identity she had no right to claim.

If it came to light that the blond and blue-eyed Trump got promotions and accolades by claiming he was African American, what would you say? Well, that’s what I’m saying. The nature of her actions doesn’t change based on whether I like the noises she makes about any other issue. She needs to apologize to everybody because everybody was victimized by her fraud. And then we can all move on.

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Against Double StandardI don’t get this. She was merely citing family legend/folklore. I do not believe she harmed anyone by this. I know several people who had been told by their grandparents that they had “Indian blood”. In at least one case, the result of a 23&Me DNA test was: “Yes, a trace amount.” This was the same result as Warren’s, if I remember correctly. My family had similar folklore; my DNA test said no. On the other hand, I did show a trace of Subsaharan Africa, which was amusing.

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@David Bellamy

I want to make sure that you read my reply to your comment about The Why.

Here it is:

I’m not sure what my why is, but I know more now than ever how to identify myself intellectually.

I’m a an applied mathematician: I want to apply/teach mathematics (and of course, statistics) and study mathematical models applicable whatever the context is. I’m not a physicist, I’m a mathematician who studies mathematical models in physics, I’m not an economist, I’m a mathematician who studies mathematical models in economics, I’m not an epidemiologist, I’m a mathematician who studies mathematical models in epidemiology, etc.

So I’m not a topologist, nor a fundamental analyst (although I’m interested in normed spaces), and even more abstractly, I’m certainly not an algebraist (although I love linear algebra) .

“I sometimes wonder whether what I do has any connection with the real world, but it feels to me that it does. Not all my colleagues agree; many think it is just a very arcane game we play. ”

As an applied mathematician, I vehemently disargree with them. Of course, I’m not so interested in topology, and it’s not easy to see the connexion with the real world NOW, but clearly, it will be very useful someday. Everything that an applied mathematician (and of course, even in the domains where mathematical models are used) does is the result of developments made by fundamental mathematicians like you, and I’m very grateful to those people. Applied mathematicians need fundamental mathematicians.

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“The First Native American professor at Harvard Law School”? Really? That’s a scam. Scammers hurt everybody by running their scams.

If you used your trace of Subsaharan Africa to bill yourself as a first African American topologist at your department, would that be OK?

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This is what I call a scam: “It is true that while Warren was at U. Penn. Law School she put herself on the “Minority Law Teacher” list as Native American) in the faculty directory of the Association of American Law Schools, and that Harvard Law School at one time promoted Warren as a Native American faculty member.”

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/elizabeth-warren-wealthy-native-american/

She is minority? Really? A Native American faculty member? That’s just low.

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” A Native American faculty member? ”

Lots of American families have some kind of family folklore about native american ancestry including mine (father’s side and there’s a non-trivial amount of evidence that it might be the case though it’s not overwhelming). Even if I had had proof it would never occur to me to self-identify as native American in any kind of context.

Warren using it so instrumentally seems like clinical career whoring (and/or misuse of affirmative action if she ever invoked/used that).

I have an odd/hilarious story about an acquaintance and native american identity that I won’t post here (if I haven’t already), I might post it on my blog some day if I can find a way to make it still be interesting and sufficiently nebulous to maintain anonymity for the person in question.

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Exactly. I have relatives in Uruguay. Not 300 years ago but right now. Real relatives. Who are obviously “people of color.” Should I use them to self-promote? No, because it’s disgusting.

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One of my uncles is a former faculty chair. Should I use him to self-promote? No, this would be unjust.

Or maybe I’m wrong….

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If you used your trace of Subsaharan Africa to bill yourself as a first African American topologist at your department, would that be OK?It would be silly, certainly.

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@David Bellamy

I want to be sure that you read my reply to your comment about The Why.

Here it is:

I’m not sure what my why is, but I know more now than ever how to identify myself intellectually.

I’m a an applied mathematician: I want to apply/teach mathematics (and of course, statistics) and study mathematical models applicable whatever the context is. I’m not a physicist, I’m a mathematician who studies mathematical models in physics, I’m not an economist, I’m a mathematician who studies mathematical models in economics, I’m not an epidemiologist, I’m a mathematician who studies mathematical models in epidemiology, etc.

So I’m not a topologist, nor a fundamental analyst (although I’m interested in normed spaces), and even more abstractly, I’m certainly not an algebraist (although I love linear algebra) .

“I sometimes wonder whether what I do has any connection with the real world, but it feels to me that it does. Not all my colleagues agree; many think it is just a very arcane game we play. ”

As an applied mathematician, I vehemently disargree with them. Of course, I’m not so interested in topology, and it’s not easy to see the connexion with the real world NOW, but clearly, it will be very useful someday. Everything that an applied mathematician (and of course, even in the domains where mathematical models are used) does is the result of developments made by fundamental mathematicians like you, and I’m very grateful to those people. Applied mathematicians need fundamental mathematicians.

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Update: Northam says he’s pretty sure it’s not him in the picture and that there was some kinda yearbook mixup. He said he’d remember that because he remembers all the other times he did racist stuff back in the day, like when he did blackface for a Michael Jackson costume. I actually think he might be telling the truth because this story doesn’t make him look any better. If he’s lying, he should’ve chosen a better lie. Regardless, he shouldn’t have apologized if he was then gonna backtrack and say he wasn’t involved. This idiot just needs to resign and fade into obscurity.

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