Another Great Quote

Just one more quote:

“We want power—we will have power—but we don’t want our names on the door. We want to control whoever’s name is on the door. As progressives, we play the long game. It’s the accrual of power through a process of constant agitation. Chip away at the power structure until that same power answers to you. Never provide constructive alternatives because it’s a trap—everything becomes your responsibility, and responsibility slows us fucking down.”

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  1. So are you going to watch the big debate tonight?

    It’s just started on CNN, and the candidates who’ve spoken so far have all made their opening words trashing Trump and enthusiastically calling for his impeachment. (Of course.)

    Well, they can’t be any angrier tonight than I am. I got my my FIFTH goddamn summons to jury duty in a mere 21 years of Arizona residence. My next-door-neighbors have lived here all their lives, and they’ve NEVER been called!

    I’ll be 75 years old in six month and exempt, and the bastards couldn’t watch six-months to send me their FIFTH summons?? I just took my blood pressure, and it’s shot way up to 127/67. Grrrrrrrrrrrrr!

    Maybe the debate will calm me down. 🙂

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      1. I’m not in the mood because our fireplace didn’t pass inspection today and will have to be replaced before we can use it again. So I’m sad. I have no energy for the candidates’ buffoonery today.

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        1. “I’m not in the mood because our fireplace didn’t pass inspection today and will have to be replaced before we can use it again. So I’m sad.”

          So the local government is hitting on you, too! Sorry to hear it…I’m just mad! (It’s easier on the psyche than being sad.)

          Everybody in the debate is still picking on Warren, who’s getting a lot of speaking time because the moderators always let her respond. Biden’s getting no attention at all.

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  2. Okay, focusing on the debate while my blood pressure goes down…

    The other candidates obviously consider Warren the front runner: Buttigieg, Klobuchar and Biden have already called her dishonest for claiming that middle-class taxes won’t go under her medical care plan.

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  3. 8:12
    TG Impeachment is hyper partisan. Trump won the election. Inquiry should continue, not impeachment
    TS (Tom Steyer) Everyone here is more decent than DJT. Applause I ran the ads before it was popular.(814)
    AY: Impeachment might not be successful and will not erase the problems. Starts going on about downsizing in retail. We need a new vision besides impeaching DJT
    BOR: Lists a bunch of DJTs crimes. If we do not impeach, we fail our veterans and everyone who has died for this country.
    JB: looks concerned. Responds to question about Hunter. My son did nothing wrong, I did nothing wrong. Goes into attack on DJT. I will beat him like a drum.
    Anderson Cooper: Did you make a mistake by letting Hunter serve on that board.
    JB: We discussed nothing about Ukraine. Refocuses on Trump’s corruption.
    BS: We need to focus on undersinsurance, climate change, paycheck pecarity,

    ECONOMY

    EW: Selfies are the new measure of democracy. I talked to thousands. They had good insurance until they needed to use it.

    Are you going to raise taxes on the MC?

    EW: Costs will go up for the wealthy, corps ;down for MC.
    PB: She’s evasive. You have a plan for everything but this. [His face bugs the heck out of me.]
    EW: M4all is the gold standard to get everyone healthcare who needs it. Repeats point about costs.
    PB: They want choices! M4all (who want it). You’re obliterating private plans!
    It will divide the country!
    BS: I wrote the damn bill. M4all: premiums, out of pocket, deductibles are gone! Better than Canadians! But taxes will go up significantly for wealthy. Taxes for everyone < than what peoplepaying premiums and out of pocket expenses.
    EW: talks about insurance companies.
    AK: We gotta tell them where we’re going to send the invoice. Public option! Republican talking points
    EW: I spent my time studying why hard working people go broke. It’s medical bills! Even with health insurance. 50 plans I put out! AK glares.
    AK: Plan v pipe dream! Public option! [ Both EW and AK are wearing purple.] Long term insurance! We gotta take on pharma and their opoid pushing!
    JB: Build on Obamacare + public option. The plan 30 trillion/10 years. More than entire fed budget. $50-70K : taxes will go up 5K about.
    BS: The issue does the Democratic party have the guts to stand up to… !
    KH: What about women’s access to reproductive healthcare! Cheers Republican legislatures are telling women what to do with their bodies! Let women make decisions about their lives! Health care issue.

    Are you going to have a job for the displaced workers by automation
    BS: Lists off a bunch of jobs we still need.
    AY: What’s the nitty gritty of a federal jobs guarantee. Most Americans don’t want to work for the government. What about my wife at home with my autistic kids? The Freedom Dividend is better, trickle up economy. Will allow people to do work people want to do.
    CB: Please stop attacking states. We’re in a state that had 2 planned parenthoods close! It’s not just about women. Women are people.

    Should workers not be worried about using jobs to automation!

    EW: It’s multinationals. Bad trade deals. Accountable capitalism!
    Make it easier to join a union, unions need to be stronger, put employees on the board.
    JC: —
    AY: So many people work in trucking and depend on the ripple effects of the industry.
    EW: I’m going to extend solvency of SS and up payments by $200/month.
    TG: I don’t believe in a fed jobs guarantee. We’re not defined by jobs.

    CB: Minimum wage upto $15 > andrew’s UBI. We got to put workers at the center of every trade deal.
    BOR: I met with UAW in Cincinnati and Lordstown.They want a shot and fairness. Get Mexicans to join unions )allow them to. 5 million apprenticeships/x years.
    BS: Sounds a little hoarse.
    TS: Hey billionaire what’s your plan! TS looks like a wax doll. 90% of Americans haven’t had a raise for 40 years. [mother jones chart jpg.]
    Do you believe your opponents demonize the wealthy.
    JB: Stumbles over cap gains. Will double cap gains tax.
    [I am so insanely tired. Yeah.] Everyone is throwing the kitchen sink in their answers.
    EW: This is about our values as country. Budget=value. 1 cent tax. Yaarh, billionaires
    PB: I’m a centrist. The Midwest is cynical. My dad’s chevy cavalier. I drive a chevy now. Lordstown doesn’t make chevy’s anymore.
    AK: Reality check! You’re not the only one who has ideas! The only time he told the truth is when he told people at Mar Lago they got richer.

    EW: You gotta tax wealth, not income! Rich don’t get most of their money from wealth.
    AK: raises hand. My grandpa was protected by unions! My mom was able to support herself because of unions! We gotta be united not divided.
    KH: Justice is on the ballot. The kitchen table and budgets. Tax credits for people making under 100k.
    AY: Wealth taxes don’t work. Look to what the other countries did well. VATs work.
    BOR: We got to lift people up. EW hasn’t shown us our plans. If you make under 250K you will not have a tax increase.
    EW: Billionaires became rich off publically funded goods we all paid for with our taxes. If you are 1/10 of 1 % pitch in a cent (refers to her tax)
    Crosstalk about tax increases.
    EW: All the things that can happen with a tax that’s good.
    JC: Lists his proposals.
    CB: We got one shot to make DJT a one term president! [Uggh, unity.] We’ve never talked about the violence of child poverty. We have the highest level of child poverty in the industrialized world.
    8:12
    TG Impeachment is hyper partisan. Trump won the election. Inquiry should continue, not impeachment
    TS (Tom Steyer) Everyone here is more decent than DJT. Applause I ran the ads before it was popular.(814)
    AY: Impeachment might not be successful and will not erase the problems. Starts going on about downsizing in retail. We need a new vision besides impeaching DJT
    BOR: Lists a bunch of DJTs crimes. If we do not impeach, we fail our veterans and everyone who has died for this country.
    JB: looks concerned. Responds to question about Hunter. My son did nothing wrong, I did nothing wrong. Goes into attack on DJT. I will beat him like a drum.
    Anderson Cooper: Did you make a mistake by letting Hunter serve on that board.
    JB: We discussed nothing about Ukraine. Refocuses on Trump’s corruption.
    BS: We need to focus on undersinsurance, climate change, paycheck pecarity,

    ECONOMY

    EW: Selfies are the new measure of democracy. I talked to thousands. They had good insurance until they needed to use it.

    Are you going to raise taxes on the MC?

    EW: Costs will go up for the wealthy, corps ;down for MC.
    PB: She’s evasive. You have a plan for everything but this. [His face bugs the heck out of me.]
    EW: M4all is the gold standard to get everyone healthcare who needs it. Repeats point about costs.
    PB: They want choices! M4all (who want it). You’re obliterating private plans!
    It will divide the country!
    BS: I wrote the damn bill. M4all: premiums, out of pocket, deductibles are gone! Better than Canadians! But taxes will go up significantly for wealthy. Taxes for everyone < than what peoplepaying premiums and out of pocket expenses.
    EW: talks about insurance companies.
    AK: We gotta tell them where we’re going to send the invoice. Public option! Republican talking points
    EW: I spent my time studying why hard working people go broke. It’s medical bills! Even with health insurance. 50 plans I put out! AK glares.
    AK: Plan v pipe dream! Public option! [ Both EW and AK are wearing purple.] Long term insurance! We gotta take on pharma and their opoid pushing!
    JB: Build on Obamacare + public option. The plan 30 trillion/10 years. More than entire fed budget. $50-70K : taxes will go up 5K about.
    BS: The issue does the Democratic party have the guts to stand up to… !
    KH: What about women’s access to reproductive healthcare! Cheers Republican legislatures are telling women what to do with their bodies! Let women make decisions about their lives! Health care issue.

    Are you going to have a job for the displaced workers by automation
    BS: Lists off a bunch of jobs we still need.
    AY: What’s the nitty gritty of a federal jobs guarantee. Most Americans don’t want to work for the government. What about my wife at home with my autistic kids? The Freedom Dividend is better, trickle up economy. Will allow people to do work people want to do.
    CB: Please stop attacking states. We’re in a state that had 2 planned parenthoods close! It’s not just about women. Women are people.

    Should workers not be worried about using jobs to automation!

    EW: It’s multinationals. Bad trade deals. Accountable capitalism!
    Make it easier to join a union, unions need to be stronger, put employees on the board.
    JC: —
    AY: So many people work in trucking and depend on the ripple effects of the industry.
    EW: I’m going to extend solvency of SS and up payments by $200/month.
    TG: I don’t believe in a fed jobs guarantee. We’re not defined by jobs.

    CB: Minimum wage upto $15 > andrew’s UBI. We got to put workers at the center of every trade deal.
    BOR: I met with UAW in Cincinnati and Lordstown.They want a shot and fairness. Get Mexicans to join unions )allow them to. 5 million apprenticeships/x years.
    BS: Sounds a little hoarse.
    TS: Hey billionaire what’s your plan! TS looks like a wax doll. 90% of Americans haven’t had a raise for 40 years. [mother jones chart jpg.]
    Do you believe your opponents demonize the wealthy.
    JB: Stumbles over cap gains. Will double cap gains tax.
    [I am so insanely tired. Yeah.] Everyone is throwing the kitchen sink in their answers.
    EW: This is about our values as country. Budget=value. 1 cent tax. Yaarh, billionaires
    PB: I’m a centrist. The Midwest is cynical. My dad’s chevy cavalier. I drive a chevy now. Lordstown doesn’t make chevy’s anymore.
    AK: Reality check! You’re not the only one who has ideas! The only time he told the truth is when he told people at Mar Lago they got richer.

    EW: You gotta tax wealth, not income! Rich don’t get most of their money from wealth.
    AK: raises hand. My grandpa was protected by unions! My mom was able to support herself because of unions! We gotta be united not divided.
    KH: Justice is on the ballot. The kitchen table and budgets. Tax credits for people making under 100k.
    AY: Wealth taxes don’t work. Look to what the other countries did well. VATs work.
    BOR: We got to lift people up. EW hasn’t shown us our plans. If you make under 250K you will not have a tax increase.
    EW: Billionaires became rich off publically funded goods we all paid for with our taxes. If you are 1/10 of 1 % pitch in a cent (refers to her tax)
    Crosstalk about tax increases.
    EW: All the things that can happen with a tax that’s good.
    JC: Lists his proposals.
    CB: We got one shot to make DJT a one term president! [Uggh, unity.] We’ve never talked about the violence of child poverty. We have the highest level of child poverty in the industrialized world.

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  4. Biden just gave a very hawkish answer about defending the Kurds and fighting ISIS — good for him, but wrong audience. He got very tepid applause. Gabbard is being completely isolationist.

    Warren won’t shut up when her speaking time is up, and the mods won’t call her on it.

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  5. HOW WILL YOU UNFUCK SYRIA?
    [walks away in the middle of TG’s answer?]
    PB is mad, mad mad.

    Is Turkey still a US ally who should remain in NATO?
    BS: The Kurds fought ISIS. Our POTUS reversed support with a tweet and phone call. No one will trust us now.

    PB: Our one time allies go rogue when we only believe in endless war or total disengagement.

    AK: How does Israel feel? Think about our European allies? Think about how they feel. This is pattern.

    How will you get rest of the world to trust us?
    KH: DJT sold out the Kurds. He gave 10K Isis fighters a get out of jail card. It benefits Turkey and Russia.

    JC: He’s caging kids on the border and letting ISIS go free! Why do anyone believe in our nuclear disarmament programs when we reversed Iran deal.

    What will you do to check Putin?

    CB: POTUS is underlying citicial alliances andpartnering with Russia. We can’t be isolationist. We gotta call them out for their efforts to undermine this democracy. Calls out his promise to bring troops home while putting troops at Saudis’ disposal.

    JB: I spent time with Putin and Erdogan. Our erratic crazy POTUS operates out of fear for his own reelection. He says I believe Putin. He doesn’t believe in article 5, if he’s reelected Nato will cease to exist.
    Joe is yelling.

    BOR: I will work to reveal Putin’s corruption and work with allies to freeze his bank accounts. (In re a question). B/c we turned on the Kurds, we’ll probably have to send another generation of soldiers to fight there…

    TS: Absolutely. Attacks DJT on foreign policy. We can’t solve climate by ourselves. I’ve been working on it for a decade. We gotta work with our allies and frenemies!

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    1. Endless bedtime tonight but now I can finally sit down and enjoy the recaps.

      I think I truly owe you a present at this time because I’m kept completely in the loop.

      Freeze Putin’s bank accounts, eh? 🙂 He should be so lucky as to be allowed anywhere near them.

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  6. AY: Gets morally equivalent and technocratic.

    AK: Russia wasn’t meddling. Meddling is when I call my dtr on a Saturday night. We need to stop Mitch and social media companies running ads in rubles.

    GUN VIOLENCE:

    How will you force people to give up weapons?

    BOR: I will seek to ban AR15s and AK 47s. Talks about Dayton, and El Paso gun massacres.

    How are you going to take away weapons from people who don’t want to give them up and you can’t find it?

    BOR: If they brandish it I will take it away.

    PB: You don’t know how this is going to work. People are dying in the streets right now. We can’t wait for purity tests.

    BOR:[ Man, I’m just bored with this crosstalk.]

    PB: I don’t need lessons in courage from you. We gotta fight to the NRA [applause]

    BOR: My policy is not a shiny object. You slapped all the gun control activists in the face.

    BOR: Reminds people he’s young. Remember healthcare don’t get caught up in gun ban.

    CB: Someone got murdered on my block last year with an AR 15. I’m not attacking people. 77% of Americans believe in licensing. Follow the people. Talks about gun drills.

    AK: I believe in voluntary buybacks. People are with us in a big way. 3 bills on Mitch’s desk; lets’ focus on this.

    EW: Voluntary. I want to do what works. Gun violence is widespread, not just mass shootings. It’s not just one thing. We were close, but we were defeated by the filibuster in 2013.

    KH: Mandatory. 8 people will die during this debate from gun violence. [Proscutor spiel] They got 100 days to give a bill or I will take executive action.

    JB: I beat the NRA 2x. [Automatic assault weapons ban.]

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  7. JC: Voluntary. B/c police violence is also gun violence.

    OPOIDS.
    How will you tackle opoids? What will you offer people in rural areas?

    AK: Pharma email: They’re eating them like doritos. The Pharmas should pay 2cents/mg. Talks about alcohol problems in family. Dad still goes to AA. “pursued by grace.”

    TS: Our govt is broken. Companies buy the govt to get what they want. Term limits, national referendums, corps are not people. Make it easier to vote.

    AY: Capitalism run amok. [Has a math lapel pin]. Refer people to treatment not a prison cell. Decriminalize opoids. It’s a systemic govt failing not a personal failing…

    BOR: Seems to think MJ > opoids in some cases.

    KH: in favor of sending drug company execs to jail to hold them accountable for opoid crisis. “high level drug dealers.” It’s a matter of justice.

    JC: Me too. Drug execs should also have criminal penalties. Also Wall Street execs.

    BS: I’m healthy and feeling great! Laughter
    Take a deep breath and look this epidemic
    They were selling drugs they knew were addicting people AND KILLING THEM!

    You’re 78 and just had a heart attack. Are you upto the stress?

    BS: plugs rally and website. Thanks for your prayers and well wishes [applause and cheers]

    You will turn 80 during the first term. Why are you sure you can do it when Jimmy Carter said he couldn’t do it at that age?

    JB: I have experience. I know what to do. I’m respected.

    You are old.

    EW: I will outwork anyone.

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  8. Should you break up the tech companies like FB, Amazon, Google?

    Ay: Breaking up tech companies won’t necessarily help. Screen use among kids is an epidemic. Anti trust won’t help.

    EW: Amazon is like the company store and is vertically and horizontally integrated. Break them all up! [cites retail stats]

    TS: Trump will be running on the economy. I’m a successful businessman. Invest in the people, harness innovation. I can show him as a fraud and failure as business person and a steward of economy.

    CB: — Robert Ork is laughing in his sleep. I will enforce anti trust laws. I’m a vegan. DJT is the most unhealthy person running for president.

    BOR: [Not in favor of naming cos.] We need proper rules for big tech cos. They’re not utilities; they’re publishers [re Facebook]. If we have to break up big companies, we will but we shouldn’t name names.

    KH: talks about DJT on Twitter. [I’m sorry, I just cannot even if she’s right.]

    EW: I don’t want to just push DJT off Twitter, I want to push him out of WH. [buffers]

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    1. I walked away to check on family member. And refresh my G&T. I’m turning into my dad.]

      ELLEN DE GENERES AND GWB. TELL US ABOUT A SURPRISING FRIENDSHIP AND ITS IMPACT ON BELIEFS.

      JC: Teachers, people older than me, different childhood, different thinkers than me. I understood what she said about being kind but I think public servants should be held accountable. Do both at the same time.

      TG: Aloha is “I come to you with respect.” My friendships with Trey Gowdy. Mentions Lincoln [who was assassinated. Ok.] Website.

      AK: John Mc Cain. I miss him. [Talks about memory about visiting him while dying.] change policy and tone. Look up from phones! Website.

      TS: Indiana Berry (sp) from SC. She reminds me of my parents. Talks about parents. My dad prosecuted Nazis at Nuremberg. I started impeachment movement 2 years ago. I fight climate change.

      BOR: Will Hurr? (Republican member of congress) I went on a roadtrip with him. Livestream

      CB: I had a lot of surprising friendships. Inhofe. I invited my colleagues to dinner… me and Ted Cruz [he eats meat and I’m vegan.] We did everything as a nation together. Website.

      AY: Thanks to the voters. I’m going to answer ? for 10 hours straight on my website on Friday.
      Fred, a Trump fan trucker. I got him to vote for me we’re still in touch. 4th industrial revolution is going to white collar workers, doesn’t care about party. Turn the clock forward.

      KH: Rand Paul. We agree on the money bail system, ending it. My mom wanted to cure cancer. She convinced us we could do anything. I’m running to make the American Dream continue to be possible.

      PB: My military friendships. National service, so you can get friendships like mine without going to war. We have a crisis of belonging in this country.

      BS: John McCain. We passed bill for VA. Mike Lee, from Utah. We agreed on Yemen.

      EW: Charles Freeh. GHWB’s solicitor. He was willing to listen to what’s happening to the middle class.2/3 of my brothers are still Republican. We do agree on common things like healthcare. I can fix it!

      JB: John McCain. We were close friends. He asked me to do his eulogy. Reach across the aisle! Joe yelling: get up! Get up!

      And that’s the end.

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  9. AY: Our data check got lost in the mail and went to the tech companies.

    WHAT HAPPENS IF STATES PREVAIL ON RESTRICTING ABORTION.

    KH: Any state that passes a law that violates the constitution and Roe v. Wade, we’ll stop it. Individual women make individual decisions.

    AK: I will tell DJT off on his support of women. I’ll fund PP again.
    CB: Abortion bans are about criminalizing proverty as well. Office of Reproductive Freedom! Codify Roe v Wade.

    TG: I’m not radical. Third trimester statusquo.

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  10. COURT PACKING. FOR ROE?

    JB: Nope. I defeated Bork. I will campaign for rights. I will recommend pro choice judges and pro privacy.

    PB: I’m for court packing. We gotta depoliticize courts though. 15 member court, 5 only appointed by unanimous 10 vote. Court retirements. Throwing it out there.

    JC: No. Term limits or cycle off from appellate courts. Codify roe, and abolish hyde.

    EW: I lived when abortion was illegal. Poor and young can’t get abortions now. ¾ support Roe. Don’t leave it to SCOTUS, legislation.

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  11. Buttigieg just made the dumbest suggestion of the night: that the Supreme Court be “depoliticized” by expanding it to 15 justices, with five of the proposed justices seated only if the other ten justices gave unanimous consent. Yeah — nothing political about letting two-thirds of the court vote on selecting the other five nominees.

    You can’t make this up!

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  12. Woke capitalism in action:

    German actress slammed for using synagogue shooting to promote clothing line

    Russian-German actress Palina Rojinski was subjected to an online backlash after she uploaded a post to Instagram promoting a joint venture with Swedish clothing brand H&M, using the recent anti-Semitic attack on a synagogue in Germany on Yom Kippur that left two people dead.

    The post was published Saturday to draw attention for the company’s new clothing collection, which pledged to donate all of the campaign’s proceeds to organizations fighting racism and anti-Semitism.

    “It’s about education and tolerance! The year 1989 had torn down walls and brought people together”. The actress was referring to the 1989 fall of the Berlin Wall, which divided the German capital between East and West for 28 years.

    “The NEUNZEHNHUNDERT89 (nineteen-hundred-89) Unisex Capsule Collection, which I I’m releasing with H&M, would like to celebrate this positive approach with you”.

    https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5607621,00.html

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