Thank Home Depot Fans

I also don’t understand why everybody is so angry with the folks who go to Home Depot and that kind of places. The goal of the quarantine is not to prevent all infections. That would be a stupid thing to do. The goal is to prevent all infections from happening at once and instead have a small number of infections coming in a steady stream and not in one huge spike.

This means we should be grateful to those who venture out and make this scenario possible. If nobody takes any risks and zero people get any exposure, we’ll be stuck in this quarantine forever.

Those folks who do break the quarantine every now and then are making sure the quarantine isn’t completely useless. We should thank them.

23 thoughts on “Thank Home Depot Fans”

    1. Not everybody but a significant number, of course. What else are we waiting for otherwise?

      By the way, in Canada the post-Soviet immigrants in their 70s all get well very fast after getting coronavirus. They think it’s because they had all been vaccinated for tuberculosis.

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      1. ” vaccinated for tuberculosis”

        Was that continued after the USSR? I’ve very worried for Ukraine because of the supposed high number of latent tuberculosis cases (also a concern in Poland)

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          1. “They think it’s because they had all been vaccinated for tuberculosis.”

            Thanks for the info – I looked it up and they are testing to see if BCG could offer some protection to this flu.

            https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-30/century-old-vaccine-investigated-as-a-weapon-against-coronavirus

            Lucky me, I had a BCG in 1971 – it’s kind of a messy process.

            (Curious how they’re willing to experiment with BCG on a “what if” basis without all the hand-wringing drama surrounding Chloroquine.)

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            1. Hey, if pillows are evil just because Trump likes some guy who makes them, chloroquine has got to be utterly nefarious.

              Has this happened before in this country? Have people gone this nuts over a politician in the past? Is it a regular occurrence? If it’s a cultural thing, then OK. Otherwise, I cannot find an explanation.

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              1. “Vaccination beyond fifteen years will still cause a false positive PPD, though.”

                False positives from BCG vaccinations tend to wane after about 5 years. BCG isn’t that effective in preventing tuberculosis, anyway, so people who grew up in countries where tuberculosis was common may have a positive PPD because they had a past latent (asymptomatic) tuberculosis infection.

                The current preferred test for tuberculosis is a blood test rather than the skin PPD. Prior BCG vaccination doesn’t affect the blood test.

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            2. “They think it’s because they had all been vaccinated for tuberculosis.”

              The protection provided by the tuberculosis vaccine lasts about 15 years. If those 70-year-old ex-Soviets got vaccinated as children, they aren’t even immune to tuberculosis today.

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              1. Vaccination beyond fifteen years will still cause a false positive PPD, though. How does this work, if the protection is no longer there?

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      2. My understanding is that we are waiting for either (i) a vaccine or (ii) a way that we can test and trace cases so efficiently that normal life can almost be resumed. And also we’re waiting for a better understanding of the diseases and possibly some drugs against it.

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          1. Yes, I agree that one year is much too long for this to go on. I am hoping the solution will be testing and case tracing. But for sure the solution will not be that so many people get infected within a year that there is herd immunity. This would mean so many deaths.

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  1. The guy who retooled his factory has done it from his own initiative, right? In Israel, we do not rely on private entrepreneurs (now we need to do the same with masks since we don’t have masks either):

    // Israel has converted a missile production facility to mass produce ventilators …

    The Israeli initiative is a collaboration between the defense ministry, state-owned Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) and medical device maker Inovytec.

    “This morning, the production line was inaugurated in the classified missile production department of IAI, after which dozens of ventilators were tested and assembled,” the ministry said in a statement.

    The rapid retooling of the missile production line was completed in days, the statement said.

    https://www.ynetnews.com/article/B1zhsZ11DU

    We have 5,358 confirmed cases of the virus and 20 deaths so far. One of them was “49-year-old widow … who leaves behind 4-year-old twins. ” 😦 It is not only old people.

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    1. “One of them was “49-year-old widow … who leaves behind 4-year-old twins. ”

      Everybody has their own obsessions, so… how did she give birth to twins at the age of 45 and with (assuming from the COVID death) weak health? How come both twins survived?

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      1. The article quotes a doctor saying Tamar (the woman) did have background diseases but they were not significant (whatever that means). It also says she had been fighting for years to give birth to the kids, so she probably had fertility problems. Her husband died only 7 months after birth of the twins. I think she used Israeli medicine and fertility treatments.

        A woman I know gave birth at the age of 47, but she had her eggs frozen before. I read and egg freezing seems a relatively simple procedure.

        In good news:

        // More than NIS 1 million (approx. $280,000) has been donated to the young children of a widowed coronavirus victim.
        Tamar Peretz-Levy, 49, from Lod passed away in the early hours of Tuesday, leaving behind four-year-old twins. Her husband died three years ago of a heart attack.
        “This is amazing,” said Tamar’s niece, Mor Smadja. ” We are grateful to all the people of Israel.”

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        1. One commenter noted fertility treatments weaken the immune system.
          Don’t know whether it’s true and which role they played in Tamar’s case.

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        2. To twins, though? Twins are a pathology of pregnancy at any age.

          And yeah, old parents are terrified of death like young parents would never understand. When I had my misdiagnosis (which I guess is what it was), all I cared about was the damage to Klara if I croak.

          Funny story on the subject. Klara loves the movie Frozen where the princesses’ parents die.

          “Mommeeeee,” she says weepily, “what will happen to me if you and papa die?”

          “First of all, we aren’t going to die for a long time. And if we do, you will go live with aunt and uncle in Canada.”

          “Oh!” says Klara and brightens up. “Hee hee hee. That’s ok, then.”

          (She really loves her cousins).

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          1. // And yeah, old parents are terrified of death like young parents would never understand.

            My mother told me the same about single mothers. When we immigrated to Israel with her and a grandmother and my younger brother as a 5 year old, she was frightened if anything happened to her.

            Glad to hear about the misdiagnosis and hope you’ll get additional confirmation from the doctors.

            “And if we do, you will go live with aunt and uncle in Canada.”

            That’s why I’ve been thinking it’s better to have 2 kids even as a single mother.
            At least, they’ll have each other when a parent dies (hopefully at an old age).

            The 47-year-old single mother also wanted to have twins, but had 1 girl at the end.

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