Dropping Out

Can anybody explain why Bernie dropped out today? What changed?

15 thoughts on “Dropping Out”

  1. 1) he ran using the word socialism. Socialism is popular with the young, but the young don’t come out and vote.
    2) he ran with universal healthcare as a core part of his platform. COVID-19 took the wind out of anything healthcare.
    3) he lost ground to Biden. Biden (sadly) appears to have cognitive issues. Losing ground to a politician with dementia doesn’t inspire anyone, from donors to media allies.
    4) COVID-19 allowed Trump to take up a war time presidential role, which Sanders can’t match.
    5) Trumps approval rating exceeded 47%, which by itself means that he will almost certainly win, and secondarily exceeds his popularity last time, hence reinforcing the idea that he can’t be beaten by Sanders.

    Both Sanders and Biden are therefore almost certainly not viable against Trump who seems to be growing in power, which means that the Democratic Party is probably regrouping, and imo will probably stump up a popular democrat who has been made more popular by something to do with COVID-19, eg Cuomo, plus a new entrant eg perhaps Michele Obama.

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    1. “Trumps approval rating exceeded 47%, which by itself means that he will almost certainly win, and secondarily exceeds his popularity last time, hence reinforcing the idea that he can’t be beaten by Sanders.”

      • And Trump is at 60% approval on the handling of the pandemic. Now that he withdrew funding from WHO, the approval will go up. It definitely went up with me, that’s for sure. 🙂

      “Both Sanders and Biden are therefore almost certainly not viable against Trump”

      • I agree.

      “which means that the Democratic Party is probably regrouping, and imo will probably stump up a popular democrat who has been made more popular by something to do with COVID-19, eg Cuomo, plus a new entrant eg perhaps Michele Obama.”

      • These are all gimmicks. This cycle is lost. All that Democrats can do is look honestly at the mistakes they’ve made and try to run a viable candidate in 2024. It’s an absolute shame that with 18 or so candidates this cycle they couldn’t run anybody reasonable.

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      1. Unless something goes horribly and unexpectedly wrong, then yes, I’d say that this cycle is lost to the democrats – particularly if Trump announces some kind of giant spending program to rebuild factories in the US, or any kind of nationalism of that kind. No one on the democrat side has the credibility to offer the same thing and be believed.

        Nor would it be a bad thing, in my opinion, since I get the sense that Trump is the kind of man who enjoys building things. The US and possibly even the world would benefit were the US to focus on rebuilding its infrastructure for a while.

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  2. Unfortunately for the Democrats, some of the better handling of the covid19 crisis at the state level has been from Republican governors (the one in Ohio and also Hogan here in Maryland). So the GOP will have a decent pool of potential candidates (who are under 75) for future presidential races.

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    1. If other states have primaries like Wisconsin, he would get blamed for people going out to vote and getting sick.

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        1. If he can’t deal with getting blamed, he definitely shouldn’t run. Getting blamed for everything is in the job description.
          Ok, that’s very funny.

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  3. Can anybody explain why Bernie dropped out today? What changed?
    He probably ran out of money (or was going to) and the ‘rona favors the candidate with the commanding lead and better organization. It’s one thing to last through the end of April and another to last through June.

    What campaign activities can he do in a pandemic? Rallies? Tours? Debates? All these primaries either got cancelled or moved months into the future and good luck competing with the must-see tv of these ridiculous press conferences. Or the endless profusion of must-see tv on every single streaming platform known to humanity. Who is going to go canvass in a pandemic? [Census questionnaires can be filled out online, but I still expect an undercount in states heavily hit by ‘rona.]

    Plus he was the oldest candidate in the race and with his recent heart attack that makes him more vulnerable to ‘rona than Biden. If he dropped dead, the Republican governor would put a Republican to fill his seat. He’s been busy in the Senate as well.

    I haven’t paid attention to the campaign for about a month because I’m focused on survival (and also I voted in my primary so…). And I’m more comfortable than a lot of people.

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    1. On the other hand, this temporary lull in campaigning could be a great time to regroup and figure out how to appeal to a broader audience.

      But yes, I’m guessing he probably doesn’t have the energy for that.

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    1. More like not woke enough for the wokesters and not tough enough for the working class… he has a glass jaw and prefers losing battles to victory (is that a Jewish thing? It’s totally a Polish thing and I’m wondering if they got it, along with about half of Polish culture, from the Jews)

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      1. // he has a glass jaw and prefers losing battles to victory (is that a Jewish thing? It’s totally a Polish thing and I’m wondering if they got it, along with about half of Polish culture, from the Jews)

        I do not think anyone, including our worst enemies, would characterize Israel or Israeli Jews as preferring “losing battles to victory.”

        As for presenting Polish Jews in this fashion, a component of Zionism is the negation of the Diaspora (a short quote from wiki is below). One of the most extreme examples of “loving to lose” was the old description of Galut Jews going “like sheep to the slaughter” during the Holocaust. However, as somebody born outside of Israel and even with not Jewish relatives, I do not think characterizing ‘Galut’ Jews as weak losers is just.

        Also, were not Jews in pre-WW2 Poland a (relatively large and) very hated minority? I read somewhere that Polish people would be glad to have them go somewhere themselves and some politicians even expressed dreamlike plans about the issue. Why would the Polish majority want to adopt anything from Jews? In addition, the Jews were exterminated while the majority of them was still very religious; I didn’t get the feeling they were as assimilated / integrated into the Polish society as FSU Jews had been. Would be very interested to hear what in the Polish culture reminds you of Jewish people.

        Some Polish people may be like that as a remaining legacy of communism. That seems more likely than adopting anything from the Jews.

        As for Bernie, he may take any weakness (if it’s truly weakness) from modern day woke version of liberalism / Democrats. Or from his personal character.

        QUOTE:

        // The old mentality, the Galut (exile) mentality, was one of passivity, of awaiting salvation from the Heavens. … after the final defeat of Bar Kochba by the Romans began “the tragedy of our passivity.” … to work the soil in Eretz Israel, to settle the country and to defend the settlements, was a complete break with Exile and meant picking up the thread where it had been dropped after the national defeat by the Romans in the first century C.E. The Jew with the new mentality would fight to defend himself. //

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negation_of_the_Diaspora

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        1. “I didn’t get the feeling they were as assimilated / integrated into the Polish society as FSU Jews had been”

          Well unlike Russian speaking societies there was no hard and fast line between “Pole” and “Jew”. Many had the Russian idea of Jewish-as-nationality while others had the more western idea of Jewish-as-religion (so that converts to Christianity mostly ceased being Jews in any meaningful way) and there was comparatively more mixing. A lot of Polish people have some Jewish ancestry without considering themselves to be Jews.

          There are also still lots of people with “Jewish-sounding” names (not just German sounding but also there are whole groups of last names ending in -ski with Jewish connotations, especially last names derived from places or months….

          There were the self-segregating orthodox communties but also lots of more secular and integrated Jewish people.

          “loving to lose”

          Well most patriotism in Europe is built around catastrophic defeats and/or losses.

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