There Are No Peaceful Protesters

I highly recommend that people watch this video before talking about peaceful protesters.

Patrol_Investigations_RPD (@PatrolRpd) tweeted at 4:12 PM on Sun, May 31, 2020:
Do you know any of these men❓Yesterday, May 30, these men violently attacked a store owner & her husband who were trying to protect their business from being looted. Please look at the video & still images. If you know any of them, please call Crime Stoppers @ 423-9300. https://t.co/ECSNcfIcDc
(https://twitter.com/PatrolRpd/status/1267202275895803904?s=03)

There are no peaceful protesters. Everybody who joins criminals in any capacity is a criminal. And everybody would immediately see that I’m right if the attackers were wearing MAGA hats. There wouldn’t be a person alive who’d dare to make distinctions between the “good peaceful protesters” and the “bad somebody else.”

People who have a good cause they want to advance don’t run around while this is going on. They wait until the criminals are off the streets. Anybody who “peacefully” comes out right now is joining the human refuse in this video. And once again, if you aren’t getting this concept, think back to Charlottesville. If it was so easy to understand in a situation incomparably less violent, how come it suddenly got confusing?

20 thoughts on “There Are No Peaceful Protesters”

  1. “People who have a good cause they want to advance don’t run around while this is going on. They wait until the criminals are off the streets.”

    Yes, absolutely 100% right. And, what’s the “good cause” here anyway? Lynching the cop who has already been charged with murder and awaits trial?

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    1. I have no idea what the “protesters’ are supposed to be protesting. When real protesters came out against the unconstitutional aspects of the lockdowns, they had clear demands that could be satisfied through the political process. Yet they were called every name in the book.

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        1. The sincere “peaceful protesters” who keep filling the streets aren’t “criminals” — they’re just naive and too young or too stupid to recognize the age-old pattern that’s being repeated in these current protests:

          The goal of the agitators among the crowd is to keep the protests going endlessly, with increasing criminal mayhem each night, until the police or other armed authorities are provoked into shooting, and people start getting killed. That’s the desired end result, and the weakness and ineptness of various governors and mayors is playing right into that goal. We’ve seen this movie before.

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      1. “I have no idea what the “protesters’ are supposed to be protesting…”

        Here’s my stab at it – they’re protesting against a violent strain of systemic racism that targets minorities and is responsible for a ‘white’ cop murdering a ‘black’ man in a particularly degrading way.

        It doesn’t matter whether or not this systemic racism narrative is true – it’s been drummed into us all for decades by politicians, the media, the intelligentsia, celebrities, religious leaders, etc. etc. The systemic racism paradigm provides a completely, obviously true explanation of this event for them just like, on a much smaller scale, people in their tens of millions in the matter of scant days and weeks learned to fear the COVID death threats “unless you do-do-do what I say-say-say” drummed into them by public health bureaucrats.

        Evidence of actual racist police intent/motivation in this specific case isn’t actually needed to justify ‘direct action’ because there can be no plausible reality outside of the assumptions of the systemic racism narrative.

        (And then there’s folks who want to start a revolution, are romantically looking for adventure, or just want to steal stuff…)

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  2. “There are no peaceful protesters. Everybody who joins criminals in any capacity is a criminal. And everybody would immediately see that I’m right if the attackers were wearing MAGA hats.” Funnily enough, a Trump voter I know went to a protest yesterday

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  3. The criminals weren’t on the streets during the protest. The protest was that morning, and it ended without incident. The riots started later, when people gathered in front of the Public Safety Building and a small number of agitators started setting cars on fire and getting mobs together to break into buildings to burn them down. The mobs continued to snowball and people went nuts. To everyone who lives here, there is a very clear division between the protest and the riots.

    If anyone’s curious about the woman in the linked post, she is okay — it was confirmed today.

    Last night was absolute chaos. I couldn’t leave the hospital last night because of the violence in my neighborhood and the county lockdown. A coworker who lives in the city had several people try to break into her house. A nearby hospital was put on complete lockdown, and nobody could come in or out. We were more fortunate, but it was awful to stay safe in the lab and watch events unfolding online.

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    1. This has been my experience in my city too. Anyone who is acting in good faith and is genuinely interested in a peaceful protest is protesting during the day. At night, shortly after most people decide to head home, that’s when the craziness begins (though so far our craziness seems relatively mild and has already begun to die down.)

      To use a rather terrible analogy, it’s a bit like sports riots. Normal fans attend the game and go home afterwards. Violent rioters stick around, rioting and creating chaos. Occasionally the rioting even begins during the game, but I still don’t think it morally taints the normal sports fans who are present.

      Of course, sports riots are often unpredictable. Protesters here now know of the riots and need to decide how to deal with that. Staying home is a wise choice. I’ve also seen some protesters banding together to stop rioters and agitators; protesters in D.C. personally captured a man who was beginning to destroy the sidewalk and delivered him to police. Altogether I largely agree with Dreidel’s analysis above. It’s naive to think the rioters can be stopped and the goals of the peaceful protesters can be advanced. As someone who cares deeply about criminal justice reform, it’s a real shame. Though of course the chances of success were low anyway, if the peaceful efforts ended up being BLM part 2.

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      1. “The criminals weren’t on the streets during the protest. The protest was that morning, and it ended without incident. The riots started later…”

        “Anyone who is acting in good faith and is genuinely interested in a peaceful protest is protesting during the day. At night, shortly after most people decide to head home, that’s when the craziness begins…”

        I’m uncomfortable with this conventional wisdom. The crowds that come out during the day -‘exercising their democratic rights’ – are setting the stage for the riots at night and if the sainted peaceful protesters weren’t aware of it the first day, they were certainly aware of it by the second and the third day. Because of the foreseeable consequences, it is generally accepted that one doesn’t have a democratic right to cry “fire” in a crowded theatre.

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        1. We just got an email from the president of our university telling us that we will be punished for these events by having to undergo “unconscious bias training.” All of these “protesters” can go stuff themselves.

          Why do I have to be punished and humiliated because a killer cop in Minnesota has the same skin tone as I do? This is guilt by association to an extraordinary degree.

          I’m as uninterested in parsing who came out to protest at which time of day as these “protesters” are in who deserves to be punished for George Floyd’s death.

          We are being held hostage by a group of entitled individuals who are bored and want to entertain themselves with these “protests.” And the longer this insanity goes on – in whichever form – the more I’ll get punished and humiliated to pander to the generationally pouty amongst us.

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    1. “There is a good comment thread”

      thanks for posting that link, interesting read on the dynamics and techniques of confronting the police: it’s a lot like reading an online guide on how to be successful in a video game where the goal is obvious i.e. to survive and successfully make it to the next level of play

      Like any video game, however, there’s little sense revealed of any deeper societal purpose for all this street fighting – what’s the goal? Clarissa strikes to the heart of this when says above, “I have no idea what the “protesters’ are supposed to be protesting…”

      It’s all QED confirmation bias: if the paradigm that you’ve been provided says that the earth is flat and you look out the window and see the horizon off in the distance, then this definitely proves the earth is flat — if your paradigm says that there’s systemic racism and white privilege is a real thing and you hear on the news that a white cop has brutally murdered a black man, then QED this proves that it’s your duty to confront the systemic racism behind institutional authority

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      1. [ v. sorry, for the double post but my last sentence wasn’t complete — …it’s your duty to confront the systemic racism behind institutional authority by marching in a big, noisy parade against systemic racism because if there’s one thing that will rid the world of systemic racism, its a big, noisy parade during the day followed up later at night with police baiting, arson, and looting Targets.

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        1. Yeah, as far as goals, confronting racism… riots are an abysmal failure.

          Before the rioting, everybody I know was on the same page about the George Floyd case: something was seriously, dreadfully wrong with the cops in Minnesota, and those guys not only needed to be arrested and charged, but probably the whole Minneapolis PD was due for a purge.

          Now? It’s all about riots. My lib friends are excusing and rationalizing them. Conservative friends are buying ammo and hoping the unrest doesn’t spread outside the urban centers. And now they’re willing to consider the possibility that Floyd was high on something, and the cops might not have been totally out of line.

          Way to squander a good consensus.

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