Advantage

The results show that college-educated African immigrants have experienced some earnings convergence with natives between 2005 and 2015. Surprisingly, the assimilation analysis of non-college graduate African immigrants shows that they have achieved an earnings advantage over native non-college graduates.

Yes, so surprising. To the idiots who bought into the “white supremacy” and “structural racism” silliness.

Incidentally, I’m at this moment babysitting (not for money, obviously) for a friend who’s an immigrant from Africa and who never finished high school. She’s at work.

29 thoughts on “Advantage”

  1. There’s a lot that’s different about recent African immigrants. Used to know a guy in upper management for a large company. For a while, he was spending at least a couple of days out of every week going to court to fight discrimination lawsuits from disgruntled ex-employees, as they hired a lot of women and minorities. They kept meticulous documentation, and the company won all the lawsuits. No single lawsuit was worth his salary to bother with– small-change stuff, but fighting them in court kept them from multiplying like locusts– after a few losses, the individual lawyers would stop taking the cases, because they weren’t getting paid. These were people who’d been fired for stealing from the till, not showing up for work, showing up consistently late for work, showing up at work drunk, etc. The company had a rough time finding good entry-level employees.

    Anyway, at about that time, the city experienced a boom in Eritrean refugees. Manager-guy LOVED the Eritreans. They were black, so if he fired someone, and hired an Eritrean for the same job, it was really hard for the ex-employee to claim racial discrimination. And the Eritreans were totally honest, absolutely dependable, could often be promoted after a short time, were mostly married, religious, and devoted family men. And, once hired, they’d recruit other Eritrean employees. From a hiring/management perspective, they were a gift from heaven. After a couple of years, a large proportion of the employees were Eritreans, and had become a big part of the company’s success.

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  2. Nigerian immigrants into the US seem to be extraordinarily successful in a number of fields, such as STEM and the arts. I know a number of scientists, engineers, and writers originally from Nigeria. I don’t know much about their culture, but it apparently produces very resilient and ambitious people. Kudos to them!

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    1. Nigeria has a bigger population than Russia and will soon overtake Brazil. It has more that 250 ethnic groups and 500 languages. Just based on sheer numbers alone, you would expect some to be smart.

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      1. I think it’s more than just numbers. Nigerian immigrants appear to be far more successful and visible in the US than Russians or Brazilians, and the Russians (and some Brazilians) have the benefit of being Caucasian.

        Speaking of Nigeria, Clarissa, you asked about mystery/crime fiction: I highly recommend “My Sister, the Serial Killer” by Oyinkan Braithwaite. It’ is really well written, a literary crime novel in an unusual setting (Lagos).

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        1. Nigeria was a British colony. They may benefit from being more familiar with the English language and culture.

          In Zimbabwe, Mugabe ran an education system that was a direct copy of British A levels. Many black Zimbabweans have gone on to professional success in South Africa.

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          1. You might be onto something. I had a girl from Benin (Nigeria’s neighbor) in one of my classes; she’d finished K-12 in Benin and come to the US to go to college. She kicked everyone’s ass, and it was a very good class overall. I strongly encouraged her to go to graduate school.

            She did convey how taken aback she was by the weirdness in how people treated her, that she’d never before considered her complexion would have anything to do with anything, but after a couple of years in undergrad (in the Midwest, majority white) she was considering going to grad school only in big cities with high Black population. The shit caught up to her.

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  3. It isn’t the same thing. It’s not their African genes that have created the difficulties of African-Americans.

    I’m also going to note that white US workers aren’t better than African-American ones and are often worse. And that the reason these construction companies have undocumented carpenters from points south is that they actually show up every day whereas the U.S. ones are unreliable. And in my experience a lot of the worker issues in working class jobs among US citizens have to do with drugs, and that that is a problem largely of the white ones…

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    1. Yes, it’s got to be the extremely easy, problem-free life in Eritrea and the enjoyable, fun experience of emigration that’s making things so easy for these lucky Africans. One only wonders why they hate their kids so much to take them away from all that wonderfulness to the horrors that await them here.

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      1. Once again: people brought as slaves and kept as such for centuries years aren’t in the same situation as immigrants. Even if the said immigrant came from a bad situation, and so on. This is an old right wing talking point and it’s been discussed to death.

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        1. I think it’s really weird that anybody would claim the hardship of living in Africa today is less of a burden than a hardship distant ancestors of Americans experienced generations ago.

          My ancestors were bought and sold as slaves until 1861, by the way.

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          1. Being descended from slaves makes you low class. Since nobody knows that your ancestors were slaves, it doesn’t affect your position in the American class system.

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            1. I grew up in a country where everybody knew I was Ukrainian from my accent, and we were mocked as country bumpkin for it.

              I’m sorry to point this out and I know it’s heresy to an American but compared to what Ukrainians and Jews underwent in my part of the world in the past 200 years, there’s no American who can claim such a legacy of victimhood today. None. Yet we don’t claim it. And you know why? Precisely because it’s real.

              In the US, it’s also only the most privileged who keep waving around the suffering of others – who never asked them to do it – for personal enjoyment.

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              1. Who says it’s for enjoyment? The thing about class systems is you have to keep reminding everybody about where they stand or they might forget.

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              2. I agree. And it makes me question the real purpose behind the narrative of “structural racism.” If you constantly tell a group of people that things are stacked against them, that everything is terrible, they can’t get out of deep shit – what’s going to be the result?

                I have noticed in my courses on Latin America that Hispanic students start performing better after the discussion of Hispanic achievement and not Hispanic victimhood. They often thank me for giving them a different perspective on their culture. Obviously, this is anecdotal. But I don’t know how well I would have done in life if I’d been constantly told about the Jewish victimhood over the Jewish achievement. Or female victimhood over female achievement.

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              3. This is a response to Clarissa’s comment https://clarissasblog.com/2020/06/13/advantage/#comment-432849

                There is a psychological phenomenon called stereotype threat. You can actually lower the scores of a minority population on tests by reminding them shortly before the test of their unenviable status and the negative stereotypes associated with them; this was repeatedly shown in experiments. I have no doubt that talking about a student’s native population’s achievements helps them perform closer to the maximum given their actual preparation and ability in a course. Constantly reminding them of being downtrodden lowers their perception of their own ability to achieve, and thus their achievement.

                (In my experience, most students respond extremely well to instructors who challenge them because they genuinely believe in the students’ capability to rise to the challenge. I teach the hardest version of several large-enrollment courses, with considerably more work and tougher exams than other instructors, yet my course evaluations are super high and students wait years to take the course with me. That’s because most (not all, but most) students don’t want to be coddled; they want to be considered capable individuals and want to learn how to do things well; there is such pride in well-earned competence.)

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              4. I completely agree. I believe this is one of the reasons why the most outspoken feminist mothers so often have low-achieving daughters. You spend your life hearing how you are such a total victim, and as a result there’s no space for a high-achievement persona to flourish.

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            2. I don’t think it’s parentage that matters most, here. It’s signalling. My mom is white, but early in her career, even with her masters degree, couldn’t get a job in a good school district. She had a low-class hickville accent, and it handicapped her in job interviews.

              She changed it. She went to a speech therapist, who coached her into passable standard English newscaster pronunciation. It worked. She got hired by a decent school district, and went on to a long teaching career.

              Some school districts (notably in CA) have tried similar things en masse– programs like Ebonics– to coach kids with low-class dialects to be able to “code-switch” back and forth from their native dialect to standard English and back, in order to not be handicapped in the adult world. The programs tend to get shut down because “they’re racist”– because they target poor urban black populations.

              Would they be more successful if they deliberately included low-class white dialects in their target groups? Or is the objection to the programs, ultimately, coming from professional middle-class people who don’t want the children of the lower classes encroaching on jobs that they perceive as belonging to them and their kids, by natural right?

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              1. I don’t think “standard English” is some kind of magic cure-all potion. But it definitely helps. And it’s weird that a tool my mother was able to use for her own career advancement, becomes some kind of toxic political garbage when people try to use it to help black kids in school.

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  4. ” stereotype threat. You can actually lower the scores of a minority population”

    It doesn’t really replicate… though I do think it’s a real phenomenon in a qualitative way – that is constant talk of victimhood and systemic racism and structural oppression creates a toxic verbal environment that no one can thrive in… people can and do make themselves physically ill when they cradle themselves in harmful language (see shakesville).

    Combine that with the (planned?) lumpenization of lower income African Americans over the last 60 or so years and make it impossible to talk about that and… it’s just a giant mess.

    And public policy about “ideas” like allowing black people to shoplift (yes I’ve seen that seriously proposed) and purposefully inflating grades and it’s no wonder that things are bad – frankly I’m surprised a bit that they’re not worse.

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    1. It’s also as if our ideological overlord were actively trying to make white people avoid black people at all costs. When anything you say, any gesture you make, any breath you take can be interpreted as something vicious, I don’t know who can avoid reaching the conclusion that it’s best to avoid the whole issue entirely. Stay in your little racial bubble, virtue signal every once in a while, post about systemic racism – and avoid black people completely.

      I’m from a different culture but I do feel like these are the signs that are being sent to me. “You’ll never get it right, so don’t even try.”

      I think it’s very wrong.

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      1. ” actively trying to make white people avoid black people”

        It’s called divide and conquer… there’s a slight chance it was just stupidity and an inability to think two steps ahead, one big effect of metoo was to let men know that they should not have anything to do with women at work lest they be accused at some point of ….. something.

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      2. I think you’re right. I (stupidly) pushed back against some white virtue-signalling FB-group mom recently, who was all “Parents, talk to your white kids about race.” (Bang head on desk). My kids’ best friends are black. They live across the street. My kids get up in the morning wondering if the neighbor kids will be out to play, and it’s almost the last thing they mention before bed. The four of them ride bikes and build forts and catch crawdads together.

        Why on EARTH would I screw that up by filling my kids’ heads with a bunch of adult neuroses about race? I wouldn’t. The only reason to do such a thing is to make my kids feel weird and awkward around their friends, and to make sure my kids know “they’re not like us”.

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        1. There are few things I hate more than parents using kids as trash cans for adult neuroses. Thankfully, at my kid’s school, they are not into this. The director of education is black, came up from the working class, and has no need to virtue signal. Thank goodness.

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      1. “Here is a compilation of primary references”
        I searched for the string “repl” and there were no hits…

        But:
        https://replicationindex.com/2019/01/02/social-psychology-textbook-audit-stereotype-threat/

        I suspect lots of qualitative things can’t be replicated and I am an absolute believer in the destructive power of toxic language (and metaphoric disease and emotional weather and lots of other things) but I wouldn’t be surprised if they couldn’t be lab proven….

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  5. “makes me question the real purpose behind the narrative of “structural racism.””

    You’ve been seeing the purpose behind it play out in the streets for how long now?

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