Ridicule

After what we’ve been seeing in the past few weeks, anybody who ever dares to suggest there are crowds of white supremacists in this country who are an actual threat to anybody should meet with complete and utter ridicule.

Inane fantasies of scary armed right-wingers should die of decrepitude. The same goes for authoritarian Republican presidents.

23 thoughts on “Ridicule”

  1. There’s lots of white supremacists in the US. All you have to do is read the comments section for any Internet news story that deals with race or a person of color to know that this is true. But sure, they’re not an organized movement that is violently attacking POC in cities across the nation.

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    1. That was the problem with the Trump-the-fascist narrative. One person can’t be a fascist by himself, you also need to have an army of jackbooted paramilitaries beating up your opponents.

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      1. IMO, one can be a fascist by themself, they just can’t do anything without a personal army. But I do not believe Trump is an authoritarian, I think he just comes across as one to many because he trolls the Establishment so much who like to view themselves as oh-so-sophisticated. But political freedom and economic freedom are very tied together. That is why almost all tyrannies are socialist/communist in nature (including Hitler’s, where the government dictated to all enterprises how and what to produce). There are some exceptions, such as Singapore (a city), Pinochet’s regime (which ultimately lost power), South Korea early on (again the dictatorship lost power), and modern China (has a large private-sector component, but still a huge amount of socialism), but pretty much to a tee, in order to establish a real tyranny, you need to have some form of government takeover of the means of production or a huge portion of it or else your dictatorship will collapse or never get off the ground.

        So unless Trump was to start literally nationalizing directly (government takes ownership) or indirectly (you businesses will produce what we say to) the private economy, it would be pretty impossible for him to establish a tyranny.

        Too many on the political Left do not understand this IMO, and thus think right-wing Presidents could somehow implement an authoritarian system. You also generally need to ban/confiscate firearms and restrict freedom of speech, and all of these right now I see supported by the extreme left, not the right.

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        1. That’s the great irony of the moment. After wailing for years about a totalitarian Trump, the very people who wailed went to work creating a totalitarian society.

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      2. But he clearly isn’t even personally inclined that way. It’s either that he’s extremely laissez-faire at the core or he’s got incredible self-control. And we all know it’s not the latter.

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    2. “There’s lots of white supremacists in the US. All you have to do is read the comments section…”

      This is not a very convincing indicator of “lots” as comments may represent just a few fanatical nincompoops pounding away all day on their keyboards in their basements or the paid work of organized troll farms.

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  2. But I will say that the photos of heavily-armed, right-wing protestors a while ago at the Michigan state Capitol building was disturbing. Anything could have happened when you have so many angry people together with guns. If you want to protest, fine. But leave your weapons at home.

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    1. Whereas, instead, huge numbers of Antifa or other radical BLM mob supporters make one feel so safe, yeah ?

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    2. “But leave your weapons at home”

      I agree with you as accidents can happen. But, in fairness, the guns were not there to be used except in symbolic support of the right to protest the overreach of state authority.

      Antifa/BLM bring weapons to demonstrations with the intention of using them in violent ways. There’s a difference in kind here not just in degree.

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    3. It didn’t happen, though. In spite of the fear-mongering, it never does. In the meanwhile, “peaceful protesters” have set yet another homeless man on fire. The video is impossible to watch it’s so brutal. If those armed people in Michigan had done it, we’d see wall to wall coverage. But the cases of “protesters” assaulting people every day and with great brutality, nobody covers those.

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    4. But they didn’t. There have been a lot of such demonstrations, and nothing horrible happens. With remarkable consistency. They even clean up after themselves. Given the choice between them and the current “mostly peaceful” crowd, I’d pick the gun nuts every time. “You shall know them by their fruits” and all.

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  3. Apparently “the crowds of white supremacists” are actually fanatical followers of a dangerous religious cult.

    According to one Shaun King of Black Lives Matter fame…

    “All murals and stained glass windows of white Jesus, and his European mother, and their white friends should also come down. They are a gross form white supremacy. Created as tools of oppression. Racist propaganda. They should all come down.”

    Marx and Lenin taught that churches distracted the proletariat from class struggle. Clearly, they were “gross” apologists for white supremacy who didn’t have the guts to break a little revolutionary glass.

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    1. // Marx and Lenin taught that churches distracted the proletariat from class struggle. Clearly, they were “gross” apologists for white supremacy who didn’t have the guts to break a little revolutionary glass.

      Don’t slander Lenin. He acted for what he believed in (see wiki).

      Btw, all my life and especially after living in Israel and experiencing the lack of separation between religion and state , I have great sympathy for:

      // Lenin’s decree on the separation of church and state …
      the Decree “On the Separation of the Church from the State and the School from the Church” also determined the relationship between school and church. “School shall be separated from church,” the Decree said. “The teaching of religious doctrines in all the state and public, as well as private educational institutions where general subjects are taught shall not be permitted. Citizens may teach and be taught religion in private.”

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Soviet_Union#Anti-religious_campaign_1917%E2%80%931921

      If we can have either religious propaganda or atheist one, I would rather choose the latter.

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      1. “Don’t slander Lenin”

        I’m trying to imagine what that might mean in the case of someone with so much blood on his hands. Oh, What Is to Be Done?

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        1. Lenin was absolutely brutal. It’s a myth that he was an honest, sincere believer and then Stalin perverted his teachings. Lenin was completely cynical, changing his narrative and his ideology as it suited his quest for power. I do not believe he had any other goal than power. I know more about him and his trajectory than most people do, and I have not found an iota of sincerity in the guy.

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          1. “It’s a myth…”

            Liars lie. Lenin created the vanguard party of Marxist-Leninism. Vast rivers of innocent blood flowed from this single source.

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          2. \ I know more about him and his trajectory than most people do

            Is there a book? I enjoyed “Stalin” by Radzinsky. Pity he hadn’t written about Lenin too.

            His book about Romanovs is unfortunately completely biased. Just opening it for 5 minutes in the library was enough to close it in disgust. A case of the worst communist propaganda, only in reverse. Historians shouldn’t write in such a fawning fashion.

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            1. “His book about Romanovs is unfortunately completely biased. Just opening it for 5 minutes in the library was enough to close it in disgust. A case of the worst communist propaganda, only in reverse. Historians shouldn’t write in such a fawning fashion.”

              • I agree. It was horrible. I couldn’t get through more than a few pages either.

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      2. Don’t slander Lenin? He was a horrible human being. So was Karl Marx. And he acted for what he believed in? So did Hitler. Hitler believed that the Jews were sub-human and evil to the core, and thus had to be exterminated, first by conquering the Soviet Union and killing and/or enslaving them all, and then starting a war with the (supposedly) Jewish-controlled mongrel United States of America, which he also saw as evil. Nazism was a death cult, but within that particular death cult, they saw themselves as the good guys, fighting to save Western civilization from the evil Jew.

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    2. One of the signs of Russia descending into barbarity was turning Religious Education into a Compulsory Subject in its schools.

      In Israeli secular (!) schools, students study the Hebrew Bible (the Tanakh) since the second grade, before they have any ability to differentiate between myths (*) and history / reality (like Holocaust and Israeli wars). Those studies continue till graduation in the 12th grade.

      (*) Like this one:
      “The Exodus is the founding myth of the Israelites. It tells of the departure of the Israelites from Egypt, their wanderings in the wilderness, the revelations at biblical Mount Sinai, and their wanderings in the wilderness up to the borders of Canaan.”

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      1. “In Israeli secular (!) schools, students study the Hebrew Bible (the Tanakh) since the second grade, before they have any ability to differentiate between myths (*) and history / reality (like Holocaust and Israeli wars). ”

        • Actually, kids are a lot more sophisticated than you allow for. A normally developing kid knows the difference between a character and real person (or fiction and reality) by the age of 3. The don’t necessarily know these terms (unless mommy is a literary critic) but they very much knows what’s “a story” and what’s real.

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  4. Um, I read my second grader TONS of fiction, myths, AND the Bible. And have done since he was…. two? We have had some of the most wonderful discussions about the differences between fiction, legend, myth, fable, and history. His understanding is excellent and age-appropriate. How else would you educate a kid? Only newspapers until high school?

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