We Are Incredibly Dumb

The destruction of the discussion board was requested by faculty members who found that somebody’s mild disagreement with the woke dogma was completely intolerable and made them suffer.*

Now there’s absolutely no place where all workers of this campus could come together to talk and, as happened often, oppose some of the initiatives of the administration.

In short: we forced our employer to take away from us the only method we had to stand up to the employer.

* In the meantime, the working classes who are employed on campus never, of course, objected to the almost daily barrage of insults on the discussion board to the beliefs of many of them.

25 thoughts on “We Are Incredibly Dumb”

  1. This is so sad. This shows, once again, how wholeness is incompatible with solidarity.

    Can’t you and your colleagues create an alternative discussion board, either on Facebook or on Blackboard? And tell the wokesters that they don’t have to participate?


    1. We tried but were immediately screamed down by the people who say that a discussion board is “a space of whiteness” and shouldn’t exist.


      1. people who say that a discussion board is “a space of whiteness” and shouldn’t exist.

        Ye gods. It sounds like these people belong in therapy, not a university classroom.


        1. Used to be completely normal, interesting, sweet people a short time ago. It’s like a contagious mental illness has claimed them. It’s so sad. I’ve known these people for over a decade.


      2. \ the people who say that a discussion board is “a space of whiteness” and shouldn’t exist.

        May be, I am mistaken but it looks like those people are not sufficiently challenged when they spout cardboard slogans without any thought.

        Were they asked what they mean by it?

        Are all university workers white? If yes, surely deleting the board would do nothing to change the situation.


          1. // Yeah, some brave soul asked. He was told to “educate himself,” “be better” and read Robin DiAngelo.

            Again, meaningless ‘word soup’ in your words.

            I would’ve answered that I read DiAngelo, yet don’t understand how destroying a board often used for protecting workers’ rights, which is especially crucial for the more disadvantaged POC, is helpful for those workers.

            Btw, interesting that a board is “a space of whiteness” in a way that the entire university somehow isn’t, so those ‘woke’ white workers can still work there.


      3. Try to see this as broader than some whiny idiots in your university.

        I watched this march through all the mainline protestant churches over the last thirty years (Methodists were the latest casualty), and it doesn’t just happen: evidence points to the instigators and organizers being trained (and possibly financed) by an outside organization. They had lawyers. No matter what church they were in, they all used the same vocabulary. Like little robots. But nobody wanted to oppose them, because that wouldn’t be Nice. I mean, they just want to have a dialogue, right?

        We all know how that ended. The faithful became splinter churches, and the progressives got all their real estate.

        So, you know, if someone at your church uses the word “dialogue” at this point, you should signal the church SWAT team to move in and neutralize them immediately.

        I expect the strategies and buzzwords are slightly different on campus, but there’s valuable work to be done there for any alert employee who can identify the instigators, and dig up any intel on who is training and financing them. What organizations do they belong to? Do they all belong to the same organization/s? What kind of training are those organizations offering? Who is funding whom, and to what degree? What are they getting out of it? Who gets the real estate when your uni goes bankrupt?


  2. “completely intolerable and made them suffer”

    As a group (with lots of welcome exceptions of course) American university faculty (no matter where they’re originally from) are among the most childish and annoying people on Earth.
    Polish university faculty have their faults but a propensity for self-infantilization isn’t one of them.
    I sometimes think tenure is to blame – it’s a very childish concept at heart (initiation into the cool kids club) and that a more adult approach to job security would be better.


    1. Turns out Joan C. Williams , the author of “What So Many People Don’t Get About the U.S. Working Class,” is “an American feminist legal scholar whose work focuses on issues faced by women in the workplace. ”

      I read her wiki page and hers is the feminism you fully support too:

      “In Unbending Gender: Why Family and Work Conflict and What To Do About It,[3] winner of the 2000 Gustavus Myers Outstanding Book Award, she argues that in order for there to be equal opportunity for men and women in the workplace, not only must women be freed from their traditionally exclusive responsibility for child-rearing, housekeeping, and other domestic duties; but that men need to be freed from the burden of their traditionally exclusive role as breadwinner.”

      Her other books sound worth reading, especially:

      Williams, Joan C. (2017). White Working Class: Overcoming Class Cluelessness in America. Boston, MA: Harvard Business Review Press. ISBN 978-1633693784.

      Williams, Joan C. (2010). Reshaping the Work-Family Debate: Why Men and Class Matter. Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press. ISBN 978-0674055674.

      Btw, you said you bought books on Israeli history after using that special soap. Would love to read any reviews and your take on my country:)


      1. Here’s a question I have. The author of the book on the 6 day war says this about the IDF in the 1950-60s:

        “Highly informal—saluting and marching were rare—the IDF placed its emphasis on speed, improvisation, and a flexibility of command in which even junior officers could make on-the-spot, far-reaching decisions.”

        This is very interesting to me. Is it still this way? Or did marching and saluting conquer the day?


        1. // This is very interesting to me. Is it still this way? Or did marching and saluting conquer the day?

          I am unsure but from my experience IDF service was very practical. After a special course for a new soldier of around 2 months, I had zero marching and almost zero saluting to higher ranks. Actually, even during that introductory course, we walked in a row but I am unsure whether it’s officially considered marching.

          I didn’t serve in a combat unit, but don’t think they waste much time on marching either.

          IDF has to be effective. Living in the Middle East, we cannot waste time or undertrain human resources.


          1. Fascinating, thank you!

            I will now have to plough through this library of books on Israel’s military history. 🙂 The good thing is that they seem very well written and easy to understand so far.


              1. I was high as a kite when I bought the books. I have absolutely no idea why I got them. Pot makes me aggressive so maybe it’s that.


  3. “In short: we forced our employer to take away from us”

    Wrong. Some faculty members wanted to get rid of the discussion board in a fit of stupidity; others wanted to preserve it.

    Instead of taking the stand for the board OR merely quietly doing nothing and preserving the status quo, the administration chose to take steps and disempower workers while smelling like a rose.

    What they could do was merely ignore this storm in a teacup (“sorry, we are busy now with Covid and etc”) and everybody would forget about it in a couple of days. They decided to take action instead.


    1. The administration did the right thing. The discussion was getting very heated, somebody got accused of being a Nazi for saying some extremely mild things… The next step was going to be forcing the administration to bully this non-tenured instructor. And rather than do it, the administration switched off the discussion. I’d switch it off too at this point.


      1. Keep notes! Who made the accusation? Against whom? Who are their associates? I don’t need to know, but you might want to have a record of it, in another six months.


      2. ” The next step was going to be forcing the administration to bully this non-tenured instructor”

        Well accusing someone of being a nazi is libel which could possibly open the university up to legal problems it would rather not deal with.
        One of the things I hate most about modern discourse is the depreciation of the word ‘nazi’ which should refer to an adherent of a very specific (and loathesome of course) political philosophy. Idiots that through the word around to mean ‘someone I disagree with’ do real nazis more good by diluting the label.
        But the US is reaching levels of stupidity in public discourse that I once thought impossible so….. yeah. I’d like to tune out for ten years and see how it all works out (and if it’s still one country and if it has reached full third world status yet).


  4. You know, just thought about it, but when I thought of going into academia, one of the chief attractions was the freedom to be myself, as I imagined it. At my current place of work, I am very careful what I say to people, definitely wouldn’t say a word about political / religious beliefs, even use a bit different name. I thought university would be a door to complete freedom. Pity people at your place destroy the ‘freedom to be me.’ 😦


    1. I know. I feel extremely sad. This discussion board was a really great place. We’ve debated so many fascinating subjects over the years. I’ve learned a lot. And yes, it’s gotten heated every once in a while but that’s normal in a debate.

      Most colleagues never participated, of course. A couple close friends asked me over the years why I wanted to “waste my time debating abstract subjects.” I said that my goal had always been to live the life of the mind. I don’t want to sound pompous but it’s hard for me to see the point of life if I can’t read widely and exchange my thoughts freely with other willing people.


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