Long 36 Years

Maureen Dowd wrote in the NYTimes that it’s been 36 years that a man and a woman ran together on a Democratic party ticket.

Of course, Hillary flipped out (understandably so) and accused Dowd of being an old pothead.

I understand Hillary’s feelings but it truly does feel like it’s been 36 years, largely because Hillary herself made them feel so long.

7 thoughts on “Long 36 Years”

  1. The Mondale-Ferraro ticket wasn’t actually bad, but it didn’t get ae chance. Looking back I remember how much had already gone downhill in the first Reagan term. I spent the first 3 mos. of that one abroad and was already amazed at what was being implemented by the time I returned. I lived abroad again during the first two years of the second, and when I got back the atmosphere was full-tilt nasty–had gotten to people personally by then. It’s interesting to reflect upon


    1. “The Mondale-Ferraro ticket wasn’t actually bad, but it didn’t get ae chance”

      Who was supposed to give them a chance? Mondale reminded people to much of the Carter years and while Ferraro had some good features no one’s gonna vote for VP.
      By 1984 the economy had rebounded from the bad early 1980s and it’s hard to unseat an incumbent in a good economy.
      By late 1986 or so it had turned to shit but even largely tuned out of the media as I was in 1984 and hanging out mostly with lefty (mostly grad) students and punks and going to the local Rock Against Reagan event… I never thought Mondale had a chance.


  2. If you wonder about the outcome of the US election, a history professor “who has accurately predicted every election since 1984” , Allan Lichtman, already knows the answer: Trump will lose (a relevant quote is below.)

    Clarissa, what do you think of Susan Rice as a VP? Tucker said one cannot find where she stands on domestic issues, but what about her approach to China and/or Russia?

    I checked and she is hardly a fanatic on BLM and white fragility. On June 1, 2020 she said about the protests:

    “I’m not reading the intelligence today, or these days — but based on my experience, this is right out of the Russian playbook,” Rice, who served as national-security adviser to president Obama, said in a CNN interview on Sunday. “But we cannot allow the extremists, the foreign actors, to distract from the real problems we have in this country that are longstanding, centuries old, and need to be addressed responsibly.”

    (Via https://news.yahoo.com/susan-rice-blames-foreign-actors-120019152.html )

    What I liked is her calling against violence and for responsibility. However, blaming violence on foreign actors is, quoting Rice, “right out of the Russian playbook” itself. Otoh, Rice cannot say everything she thinks as a politician, so adding ‘Russians’ could have been the only way to enable a Democratic politician take a stand against violence.

    Also, Rice correctly describes Russian aspirations, if not always realities, of

    “we’ve seen it for years, including on social media where they take any divisive, painful issue . . . and they play on both sides. I would not be surprised to learn that they have fomented some of these extremists on both sides on social media . . . [or] that they’re funding it in some way, shape, or form.”

    Of course, it’s easier for Russia to act in Europe, esp. in Eastern Europe, than in US.

    A quote about predicting election results:

    // Lichtman bases his prediction on a model of “13 keys” that can be answered as either true or false for any given election. The “13 keys” in his system include factors such as the economy, incumbency, social unrest and scandals, as well as the candidates’ personal charisma.

    “The secret is keeping your eye on the big picture of incumbent strength and performance. And don’t pay any attention to the polls, the pundits, the day-to-day ups and downs of the campaign. And that’s what the keys gauge. The big picture,” Lichtman explained. //


  3. What Maureen Dowd actually said was:
    “It’s hard to fathom, but it took another 36 years for a man to choose to put a woman on the Democratic ticket with him.”

    2016 was not an instance of a man choosing a woman as running mate, but rather a woman choosing a man as running mate. Maureen Dowd was correct and Hillary Clinton should not have taken offense.


    1. That’s an amended version. NYTimes apologized for the earlier one that said exactly what I quoted.

      The problem is that the paper publishes so much crap that it has to self-correct all the time and it’s hard to keep track.


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