Reason to Lose

If Trump loses the election, there will be one single reason for it. He did absolutely nothing on immigration and even stopped promising to do anything. Incomprehensibly, he doesn’t even try to remind voters that Biden supports immediate amnesty and free healthcare for illegal immigrants.

Rightly or wrongly, most voters don’t care about Hunter’s emails. They also have zero interest in China, Russia, or Kazakhstan. They turned out in 2016 for a guy who promised to build the wall. Four years later, there’s no wall and no criticism of Biden’s open borders plans at all.

I’m sure there will be zero discussion of this at the debate tomorrow, either.

25 thoughts on “Reason to Lose”

  1. Respectfully Clarissa, you are far too rational for elections, because elections are like trying to convince drunk people to do what you want. Being as logical as you are is like standing up in a room full of drunk fat people and saying “Don’t go outside to the free BBQ where Biden is giving away hot dogs because you’re already too fat!”

    Anyone who tries doing that will convince zero drunken fat people to stay inside, because they’re drunk, already know they’re fat, and are only staying inside because that’s what they want to do anyway, but it will convince some of those fat drunk people to go outside to Biden’s BBQ stand for free food and make friends with Biden because they have no self control.

    Since Trump needs a lot of Latino people to vote for him, he simply isn’t reminding anyone about Biden’s free hot dogs/healthcare/amnesty.

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  2. Actually, Trump has been extremely successful in reducing immigration and emigration. He has also been successful in reducing the number of passports issued or renewed. Overstays of visas are way way down.
    Covid-19 makes travel ill advised and in a lot of cases effectively impossible. And it’s way more effectively than a wall of concrete. And to the extent his mis(handling) of covid makes it difficult for people to come in or out of the country, he deserves that credit. He has succeeded beyond anyone’s fantasy.

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    1. I have no idea how to engage with people who blame Trump for COVID. They don’t seem rational. There’s a large number of countries were the COVID situation is clearly worse and Trump isn’t there.

      TDS is truly an illness.

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      1. Don’t. That’s what you do with crazy people: do not engage. That dude ranting at traffic on the sidewalk? Don’t make eye contact. Cross to the other side of the road. That person who seemed OK until they started talking about secret messages in the Bible? Oh, look at the time! I’ve really got to go now…

        TDS is no different.

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          1. I’m really hoping some of them will wake up from the spell after the election. It has been really freaky watching friends turn into raving lunatics.

            But nothing I say will make any difference. They’ll either come back on their own, or they won’t come back. All I can do is pray for them.

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      2. Well, he politicized the whole thing by railing against masks, downplaying the pandemic, etc. Now everything has blown up in his face.

        Literally all he had to do is listen to the experts and follow their instructions. Nobody could possibly blame him then. I think looking back this will be the inflection point where Trump lost the election.

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        1. Once again, in Spain, they followed all these instructions and wore masks religiously. The results are worse.

          This isn’t about Trump at all. He’s not a factor. He has zero control over what each state governor does. The desire to make this about Trump is not rational,I’m sorry.

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              1. They issued a guidance today that if you were in contact with anybody who has COVID, you should quarantine for 2 weeks irrespective of whether either or both of you wore masks.

                But yes, they recommend because, as several studies on the subject point out, it seems to have some sort of a psychological effect on the anxiety-prone folks.

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              2. That does not imply masks don’t work. It implies they are not 100% effective, especially when worn incorrectly (which many people do).

                Would you take the ABS brakes out of your car because they won’t 100% prevent an accident?

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              3. Not 100% effective? Then how effective? 80%? 20? 1%

                If 100% of people are ordered to abandon productive life and hide indoors for two whole weeks, I’d say this suggests extremely low effectiveness. It’s an extremely severe measure to take for “just in case.”

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          1. “Once again, in Spain, they followed all these instructions and wore masks religiously. The results are worse.”

            It clearly worked for a while, otherwise cases would not have gone down at all. The problem is people got complacent and stopped caring about protection.

            “This isn’t about Trump at all. He’s not a factor. He has zero control over what each state governor does. The desire to make this about Trump is not rational,I’m sorry.”

            As I said previously, Trump made this about himself. Did you forget his daily COVID19 meetings and how badly they backfired? Did you forget the whole bleach/IR light kerfuffle? That DID NOT help him one bit.

            I reiterate, if he truly had just let the experts and various states handle things, he would be in much better footing. But he did the opposite.

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            1. Ed. A complete lockdown forever is clearly impossible, right? One day people will come out of lockdown. And if on that day a new huge wave begins, we can’t say that the lockdowns worked in any meaningful way. They simply delayed the inevitable while making it harder to deal with the consequences by creating an impoverished society and a collapsing economy.

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              1. “One day people will come out of lockdown. And if on that day a new huge wave begins, we can’t say that the lockdowns worked in any meaningful way.”

                Honestly, it does not seem to me that you can prevent new waves at all, but you definitely have some control over how bad they will be. Looking at Spain’s “Daily New Cases in Spain”:
                https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/spain/
                They clearly got some control over it on the first wave, things just seem to be going to hell on the second one.

                I don’t know the answer to why Spain’s (Europe’s really) second wave is so bad, but my intuition and own observations are that people got sick of following protocols and became complacent. I see it personally where I live; people’s mask hygiene is horrid (chin straps, below the nose, etc.). Also, those cloth masks seem to do more harm than good. Mask storage I’m sure is also horrid.

                We could definitely just say screw it and stop caring completely, humanity will survive as this virus is not really THAT lethal. However, I don’t think we could really stomach the death toll.

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            2. “It clearly worked for a while”

              Define “worked” lockdowns don’t stop or prevent virus spread they only delay it. If the healthcare system is under pressure because of EU mandated austerity then that might be a worthy goal but then those imposing the lockdowns need to be clear about what they’re doing: “We can’t stop this, we’re just trying to delay things to keep hospitals functional” but no government has. They’ve become a policy crutch that governments reach for the moment things get hairy….

              And who came up with the idea of lockdowns in the first place? The Chinese fucking Communist Party (one of the most evil entities in the history of the world – a party whose aopologists admit needlessly caused the death of many millions of people) why are western countries mimicking policy from a government that treats its citizens as livestock? (anyone from the countryside should recognize the methods as those used to prevent diseases among domesticated animals).

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              1. As I mentioned in a previous post, the purpose of lockdowns was to buy time to get ready for the second wave. What seems to be happening is this time we “bought” was not wisely used.

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        2. Literally all he had to do is listen to the experts and follow their instructions.

          It isn’t nearly that simple. For one, the “experts” don’t know as much as they often like to make out they do, and two, they often are ignorant in other areas of policy. The President has to take into account what the experts are saying to do and then incorporate it with the broader overall societal and economic aspects of the issue.

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          1. Experts change their minds all the time. Fauci was against masks a few months ago. He also thought this virus wasn’t a big deal in January. IHME was revising its model dramatically all through March and April. There are no experts who knew exactly what was going on and what the best course was in January. There’s isn’t an agreement among the experts today. Different countries have come up with different strategies and all those strategies seem to be failing.

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  3. Some are waking up. I know some of them. The whole “Walk Away” movement is evidence of rational thinkers prevailing. Keep speaking. People are listening. And your comments give those of us who can’t put the ideas into words the mechanism to pass the idea on.

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  4. I am for the social distancing though. Whenever I get sick it is from having been in crowds with little air. Riding 18 hours on a bus or plane, going to school with tons of people everywhere, etc. Or it is from close exposure to a sick person, like a household member. I also enjoy the improvement in traffic and noise levels and weirdly, I’m enjoying the break from travel. I’m very sort of insouciant about the virus, I don’t feel as though I’m limiting myself much, I still go to restaurants and to class in person and wherever I want/can, but I’ve realized that even so I am taking care, compared to others, because I don’t get into these big crowds, especially not indoors … and the people I see are also taking some precautions.

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  5. “what seems to be happening is this time we “bought” was not wisely used.”

    And what leads any sane person to think it won’t be the same this time? There should be no kind of lockdown unless there is government transparency about the duration and what will be done to prepare for the future…. but no one’s doing that.

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