Starr

The most Hispanic county in the US with the median income of $17,000 swung 55 points towards Trump since 2016.

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  1. Who would have thought legal Hispanic immigrants who went through all the paper work and jumped through all the hoops would be against illegal immigration?

    They are also fairly conservative, so that whole non-binary gender “latinx” crap does not fly.

    Regardless of what happens with the elections, Democrats will need to do some serious soul searching and hopefully realize Hispanics are not AOC type progressives. By and large they hate socialism.

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    1. I always enjoy it when people try to educate me about Hispanics. Especially on the days when I’m on my way to teach Intro to Hispanic Civilization.

      Florida Hispanics are overwhelmingly Cuban and Venezuelan. They have already experienced socialism and hate it.

      But then there are places like Arizona and California. Hispanics there are overwhelmingly Mexican and Central American. Central Americans fought in decades-long civil wars to establish socialism. They lost but the dream is very much alive. A person who says ‘Hispanics hate socialism’ speaks from a place of profound ignorance. The dream of socialism has very, very deep roots in Latin America.

      I recommend looking up the party that won the election in Bolivia the other day. I also recommend looking into what’s happening in Argentina and Chile.

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      1. Interesting observation. Post-independence Mexico has suffered two centuries of political violence and authoritarianism and has enjoyed only very limited exposure to democratic institutions and norms.

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      2. “But then there are places like Arizona and California. Hispanics there are overwhelmingly Mexican and Central American. Central Americans fought in decades-long civil wars to establish socialism. They lost but the dream is very much alive. A person who says ‘Hispanics hate socialism’ speaks from a place of profound ignorance. The dream of socialism has very, very deep roots in Latin America.”

        I meant Hispanics Americans living in the US that can vote in the election. They are such a diverse group, so it’s hard to really generalize, but I imagine the Hispanics that fled Socialism in Central America, Cuba, Venezuela, etc. would tend to be anti-Socialist.

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        1. OK, once again. Socialist guerrillas lost in Central America. Centra Americans never got a chance to tire of it. Please look at California. It was a solidly Republican state. What is it now? What changed? The demographics changed.

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          1. Texas was a solidly Democratic state. If you go back far enough, the whole South was Democrat. Things just flipped at some point in the 50s and 60s. I don’t think Central American immigration had much to do with that.

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            1. I wasn’t talking about the South in the 1960s. I was talking about California in the 1990s. Yes, these are two different places and two different situations.

              What are we arguing about? Whether socialism has very deep historic roots in Latin America? It’s not something that needs to be debated. It’s a fact.

              I personally can’t have enough Hispanic people around me. I live and breathe the culture. But it doesn’t blind me to the culture’s many dysfunctions. The chronic incapacity to establish a functioning democracy, a trend towards authoritarian regimes, a century-long love affair with socialism and anarchism, an extreme contempt for women, and profound racism that dwarfs everything we call racism in the US.

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              1. Yeah, totally agree and that’s also my view of Latin American countries. I was referring primarily to the Hispanic immigrants who come to the United States legally that tend to be wealthier, more educated, upper income bracket, and tend to be more capitalist and conservative, and therefore more anti-Socialist.

                For instance, the large Bolivian population living in Arlington VA are by and large very anti-Socialist, anti Evo Morales people.

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          2. Also the cold war ended. California previously benefited from military spending due to the Pacific Fleet and a lot of research being defence related. Then tech jobs came and replaced the old defence jobs.

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