Another Lockdown

Klara’s daycare closes for an unexpected two-week quarantine tomorrow. And I’m in my last two weeks of class. Of course, last year when we had 4 cases of flu at the daycare, which is actually dangerous to kids, nobody closed anything.

And just as I made detailed plans for the end of the semester and decorated them beautifully in my bullet journal.

This is ridiculous.

37 thoughts on “Another Lockdown”

  1. I’m kind of surprised there isn’t a bigger push for putting older and vulnerable people in isolation and letting everybody else continue with their lives with masks and social distancing.

    In general everything just seems so convoluted, like every state and municipality are doing different things. No wonder there is so much confusion and resentment going on.

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    1. “I’m kind of surprised there isn’t a bigger push for putting older and vulnerable people in isolation and letting everybody else continue with their lives with masks and social distancing.”

      Really, seriously, you’re surprised at this point??

      This is what should have been done at the beginning and it was the completely obvious, rational policy path then. All of the deaths of the unprotected medically vulnerable, however, proved highly functional in that they served to amplify the elite’s message of society’s “new normal” – do what we say or you will ‘die-die-die’ in a horrible, horrible way on a ventilator gasping for breath.

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      1. I guess I should rephrase myself: I am absolutely appalled at how badly this has been handled in the USA. We’re literally in a state of limbo where we’re neither fully locking down to contain the virus, nor just letting things be to save the economy.

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      2. “This is what should have been done at the beginning and it was the completely obvious, rational policy path then.”

        I said this exact same thing back in April 8th. A total full national shutdown back in March/April would have brought this under control and avoided uncontrolled spread.
        https://clarissasblog.com/2020/04/08/revised-ihme-model/

        Instead we have a hodgepodge of restrictions, some of which make no sense and no clear direction and a virus completely out of control. This is just a total failure of leadership. We will be studying this in the history books.

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        1. “I said this exact same thing back in April 8th”

          Actually, no, we’re obviously not understanding each other.

          The vulnerable should have been protected/locked down by public health from the beginning.

          Everyone else should have been allowed “continue with their lives with masks and social distancing” because they are at little or no risk of serious illness. Lockdowns of the healthy never made medical sense as they cause economic/social chaos and can, at best, only postpone the virus ripping through through the population.

          So lockdowns were about political control – teaching people to fear and obey their betters, creating a profitable environment for e-businesses, and driving a wooden stake into Trump’s re-election chances.

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          1. I’m with GSW on this, 100%. If we had poured all the money and effort into protecting the elderly, more people would survive, and we’d still have a functioning economy and a normal life.

            I also agree completely on why this was done. These were the reasons and in that exact order.

            I can’t express how glad I am to have people here on the blog who see things like this. I’m literally losing my mind because everybody around me is fanatically pro-lockdowns.

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            1. “everybody around me is fanatically pro-lockdowns”

              It’s a toxic mixture of fear and propaganda with a soupcon of class snobbery. Things are likely to get even worse so please hold off “losing your mind” until you really have no other choice.

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              1. People were gushing today about Zoom cocktail parties and Zoom Halloween and Thanksgiving activities they have been organizing, and I felt like an alien. I’ve had normal parties, Halloween and Thanksgiving but if I mention this, they are going to have fits.

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            2. With respect to your reply to GSW below (which I don’t seem to be able to reply to). I’ve long suspected that I would get more sympathy and understanding for my academic colleagues if I confessed to injecting myself with heroine and sharing needles, than if I would if I said I’ve travelled outside my country three times “in the middle of a pandemic” and met with family face-to-face. Multiple times.

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          2. “The vulnerable should have been protected/locked down by public health from the beginning.”

            Back in March and April we had very little information about who was vulnerable since the pandemic was getting started.

            “So lockdowns were about political control – teaching people to fear and obey their betters, creating a profitable environment for e-businesses, and driving a wooden stake into Trump’s re-election chances.”

            Lockdowns are a measure of last resort when everything else fails. At the start of the pandemic they were very necessary since we had so little information. The fact that this virus is even more widespread and more out of control now than back in April just shows you how badly this was handled.

            We are getting the worse of both approaches, ineffective lockdowns and damage to the economy.

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            1. “Back in March and April we had very little information about who was vulnerable since the pandemic was getting started.”

              Not true. Public health in North America knew from the experience in China and Europe who the vulnerable populations were and they failed to protect them (leading to many tens of thousands of deaths) while pursuing a lockdown of the healthy who were never going to become seriously ill from COVID. They’re completely incompetent morons. I wouldn’t seek out their advice about treating a hangnail. Morons to a person!

              “Lockdowns are a measure of last resort when everything else fails.”

              Lol and lol. Lockdowns of the healthy were the measure of first resort by the public health morons. All they succeeded in doing was to prolong the medical crisis and in the process create far worse economic, social and cultural crises. King Canute redux.

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              1. It’s only moronic if it’s not accomplishing your intended purpose. I think the “morons” in charge absolutely got what they wanted out of the situation. They’re just lying about their goals.

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              2. I’m a crazy mother, folks. My first child died. I gave birth to my second child at the age of 39. It cost me 6 insulin injections a day and 3 hospital visits a week throughout the pregnancy. When my kid scratches her thumb or gets the sniffles, I get suicidal. For real. I’m completely neurotic about her.

                So if a crazy mommy like me ended social distancing and resumed normal life for the kid in April, what does that mean? I would have never done it if I didn’t know for a fact that COVID isn’t dangerous to kids. If there were any danger, I’d build a moat around the house and never leave. But I knew. And everybody who wanted to know knew. There were mountains of evidence even back then.

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            2. No, not true. I knew in April because there was a mountain of studies back then.

              Now the brainwashing will begin and the gaslighting will be all over the place. But I refuse to have my brain messed with. It was absolutely known in early April that this is a disease of old people. Let’s not allow these bastards to rewrite history. They knew that closing schools and getting 20-year-olds unemployed made no sense. They knew it. And they still dud it on purpose.

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            3. And by the way, in every pandemic scenario by WHO and the CDC, the conclusion was always clear: lockdowns are NOT an effective solution and shouldn’t be tried.

              This wasn’t a mistake based on a lack of information. This was purposeful, clear-eyed action with very specific economic and political goals.

              People don’t let yourself be duped. Please. There were tons of information by April. If I, a complete layperson, had them, specialists definitely had them.

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              1. I just don’t get this line of thinking. Basically every country on earth with the exception of Sweden shutdown to avoid spread. Every single country that has the virus under control (China, Australia, New Zealand, South Korea) used lockdowns to control the spread. Were they all just trying to dupe people?

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  2. “the recent disclosures that Covid-19 is not affecting children”

    As I’m sure you’re aware, this has been scientifically established since at least mid-June, if not earlier, but wasn’t publicly acknowledged until very recently by the pro-lockdown medical establishment.

    When you teach people of fear and obey, the capacity for independent thinking and individual creativity is lost. It will take the automatons a while to adjust to their new orders. Be very afraid of this generation.

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    1. Recent??? I knew that in April, which is when I resumed playdates and a full social life for my kid. This was known from the beginning.

      Recent, my ass. My University shut down our discussion board in June because I posted a dozen links to studies demonstrating that COVID isn’t dangerous to kids nor do they transmit and it started a huge shit storm.

      Recent. Oh, God. Recent.

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      1. Clarissa, you need to gather enough data before you make decisions that affect human life. So yes, in terms of being able to make life and death decisions, this was fairly recently. I think by summer we had a good idea who was more seriously affected. March and April we certainly did not. People were still being intubated, before it was realized it was making things worse.

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  3. @GSW: “This is what should have been done at the beginning and it was the completely obvious, rational policy path then.”

    Yeah, I said this exact same thing back in April:
    https://clarissasblog.com/2020/04/08/revised-ihme-model/

    It was obvious. But instead of a coherent Federal policy, every state and municipality did its own thing. That still continues to be the case today and as a result we’re approaching April daily deaths and we’re not even one week from Thanksgiving.

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    1. “But instead of a coherent Federal policy, every state and municipality did its own thing”

      AFAIK this type of issue has always been the purview of the states – which makes sense given the geographic diversity of the US… People have come to expect far too much from the federal government and not enough from state and local governments…

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      1. “People have come to expect far too much from the federal government and not enough from state and local governments…”

        Yes, let us consider for a moment how much better it would have been for everyone if NY Gov. Cuomo had been able to impose his notion of a “coherent Federal policy” on nursing homes and lockdowns everywhere in the U.S.

        Not to go all libertarian, but the idea that “government” is able to fix anything and everything in nature, like a plague, reminds one of the story of King Canute who commanded the tide not to come in with the sole purpose of declaring to his subjects that “Let all men know how empty and worthless is the power of kings, for there is none worthy of the name, but He whom heaven, earth, and sea obey by eternal laws.”

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      2. ” People have come to expect far too much from the federal government and not enough from state and local governments…”

        I don’t think some basic level of competence and organization at the Federal level is too much to expect. That’s the whole point of the Federal government, to coordinate and organize things outside state control. A pandemic most clearly is out side control of anyone single state.

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        1. Actually, federal government went swiftly into action by facilitating the governors (ie naval ships, which went underutilized by “Emmy” Cuomo), building hospitals in days, expediting vaccine development (operation warp speed), mobilizing automakers to design and distribute ventilators, closing the borders while being accused of racism by ours truly Biden and Pelosi. Incidentally, vaccine (and drug) development does not happen in months, but in years. Besides, it is against the constitution for the President to enforce rules at the state level, or this particular President would have been accused of being a fascist, Hitler, and similar beloved descriptions.

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          1. I distinctly remember chaos surrounding PPE supplies because the Federal government failed to coordinate. Failure to have a coherent and clear message is also now being discussed by the CDC director as very problematic:

            Maybe you’re OK with the Federal response, but I don’t see how you can look at the data we have now say that it has been a good response overall. Even the CDC is warning us to prepare for the next three months.

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            1. It’s been much better than the response of many other countries. Some of them Western European countries with socialist governments and a lot smaller territory.

              The federal response in the US was brilliant. It’s the states that messed up as evidenced by the results. Look at the state-by-state mortality and you’ll see the worst state in the nation faithfully reflected there. New Jersey, then New York.

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              1. If by “brilliant” you mean uncoordinated and incoherent, then it definitely was “brilliant.”

                “by-state mortality and you’ll see the worst state in the nation faithfully reflected there. New Jersey, then New York.”

                By that metric the best ones are Maine and Vermont, two of the least densely populated states in the nation. Maybe there is a correlation there?

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            2. “Redfield warns this winter…”

              Why would anyone ever again believe anything published in the NYT (except, perhaps, the page numbers)?

              Why would anyone believe anything coming out of the CDC, where, after an epic series of botched COVID testing failures in the first half of 2020, 1200 highly-politicized employees this summer signed a risibly fatuous letter claiming that “racism is a public health crisis in the United States”?

              Why would anyone believe anything said by CDC Director Redfield who has famously been quoted as predicting earlier this fall that no vaccines would be available until mid-2021 and that masks would likely be prove to be more effective in the long run than a vaccine?

              Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right…

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      3. How can there be a federal policy if the virus came to each region at a different time and in a different way. Florida didn’t get its first wave until August while New York had already lost half its elderly population at that time. Any “one size fits all” policy would have been a disaster.

        Besides, a federal policy means nobody would have escaped from these totalitarian measures. It’s best to have a multitude of people responding in a multitude of ways because then you can luck out into a non-totalitarian response.

        It shouldn’t even have been statewide. In Illinois, the statewide policy is based completely on the Cook County and it’s numbers. Cook County has the most obese, unhealthy people living packed tight in bad conditions. Their numbers have absolutely nothing to do with the situation here downstate. But we have to suffer from their mitigation measures that make zero sense to us. This should have been left to municipalities. Every town should decide based on local conditions. Otherwise we end up with a county that has zero deaths for weeks being forced into measures of a county with 120 deaths a day. Our economy is destroyed because Cook County is a mess.

        Come to think of it, our politics is destroyed too because Cook County keeps electing these bastards that the rest of the state doesn’t want.

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        1. “When you really want to get everybody on board, you’ve got to have clear, unified, reinforced messaging,” Dr. Redfield said on Wednesday. “The fact that we were still arguing in the summer about whether masks work,’’ he said, “was a problem.”

          “The time for debating whether or not masks work or not is over. We clearly have scientific evidence,” he said, pointing specifically to a C.D.C. study in Kansas that showed areas with mask mandates saw a decline in virus transmission, while those without a mandate saw a 100 percent increase.

          The C.D.C. director also expressed frustration at states and local jurisdictions that have not adopted mask mandates. They are especially important, he said, to protect people over 40 from those under 40; younger patients may not display such Covid-19 symptoms as fever and coughing, even when they are infectious.

          What CDC director Dr. Redfield says encapsulates what has been so bad about the Federal response. There is no “clear, unified, reinforced messaging.” The fact that even today we’re arguing about masks and whether they work or not, instead of listening to the people who are experts in the field and are paid to know about this stuff is just incomprehensible to me.

          The fat obese elephant in the room is Donald Trump. His messaging has been so horrid it cost him the election; but even after he’s gone we’ll still be dealing with the blowback.

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    2. A federal government that can impose strict uniform rules on such things to all states at once… is not American. When Michigan or New York decide to go full Mussolini, their residents need the safety-valve of being able to take their lives and tax dollars somewhere else.

      Have you noticed that with our hodge-podge of mismatched measures, Florida (which has a legendarily huge elderly population) is currently doing way better on the covid front than Illinois (which has been much more strict with lockdowns)? CNN will not tell you that unless you credibly threaten to pull out their fingernails on-air.

      Why is that?

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  4. Klara’s daycare closes for an unexpected two-week quarantine tomorrow.
    Is the closure because of an order by the state or because a kid or an employee tested positive for covid-19?

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