End of Teaching

What I fear is that this is the end of my teaching career. I fear that we will be forced to take the vaccine, and those who refuse will be barred from the classroom.

I’m kind of old for a career change but I don’t understand what’s left.

Of course, if more people were human and not sheep, this would be easy to resist. If enough people refuse to participate in this charade, there’s nothing anybody can do. But unfortunately, almost everybody will allow themselves to be tested and pumped full of this “vaccine.”

39 thoughts on “End of Teaching”

  1. I want to get the vaccine because I don’t want to get COVID-19. I don’t think that I would die from the virus, but I don’t want to get it and end up in the ICU for a week. I imagine that it’s quite unpleasant to have trouble breathing because of the virus; I’d rather avoid this. I’m also concerned about the possible long-term side effects of the virus, e.g., lung damage.

    Would you still choose not to get the vaccine if a significant percentage of the population were already vaccinated and they were fine and didn’t suffer any really bad side effects?

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    1. Yes, absolutely, I’ll still refuse the vaccine. I don’t want it not because I fear side effects. I don’t want it because it’s my body, my choice. I’m not afraid if this illness and I don’t want to be coerced.

      Believe my experience, once you allow yourself to be coerced into small, seemingly insignificant things, there’s no end to it. No end.

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      1. Good for you! You might have to stay away from pediatricians and public schools then. Because next thing you know they’ll be pushing covid vaccines along with the MMR and chicken pox vaccines, and tell you to do it because you’re around children (your daughter.) Hopefully Canada won’t make you get a covid vaccine to reenter the country to see your sister, her family and your parents.

        What are principles if you do not sacrifice for them? I think there are some communities in California and Oregon who are very friendly to people who do not want to take vaccines.

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        1. Seriously, Shakti, one more stupid, pissy comment and I’ll ban you. I don’t suffer fools gladly. Have you been banned from Tiktok that you have to persecute me with these inanities?

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  2. I’m sorry, Clarissa. Our university has been doing the same thing ever since they reopened this fall — anyone teaching in person and any student coming in to campus has to get tested weekly. This is the only reason why I am teaching online this Fall. I got tested once but the test is somewhat invasive and slightly painful and I don’t want to subject myself to it weekly.

    I have some sabbatical saved up, and am thinking of taking it this spring — just to get out of testing and these endless zoom classes. It’s a temporary respite. If possible, try something like this? I am hoping things will be better next fall, but from what I see, I’m not optimistic. We can all hope though.

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    1. God. I’m now probably going online, too. Which I hate. And so do the students.

      I’m hearing out governor has invested a ton of money into the company manufacturing the PCR tests, which is why he’s forcing everybody to get tested. There’s always a money trail.

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  3. It will be at least a year until the people in the 40-50 age group will be up for vaccination, another one before kids will be up for it. By then we will know more about any possible side effects and how it affects your body. I remember there was some sort of swine flu vaccine that was a complete dud and I don’t think anyone is still using it. My only fear is that with the media giving up completely on integrity and honesty, we will not find out.

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    1. That’s what I fear. If the vaccine has bad side effects, who will report on it? Nobody. We’ve seen how easy it is to silence information and spread complete lies (e.g. Russia collusion). How will we know?

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      1. They wont’ be able to cover up negative widespread side effects on a global vaccine. I’d be concerned if the vaccine was only given in the US, but that’s not the case. It will be distributed to many countries all over the world.

        Before you and I even get a chance to get it, many millions of people will already have been vaccinated.

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          1. If you REALLY don’t trust any news from the internet, you can always ask people you know who have gotten vaccinated. In addition, your blog is made up of people from all over the world, you can ask us. The power of globalization at your hands.

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            1. We all know that there’s such a thing as confirmation bias. People won’t admit that they made a mistake. Especially if they inflicted it on their children. The people who are capable of saying “I’m wrong, I made a mistake” are one in a billion. Asking people, “so, did you make a mistake?” is a complete waste of time. They will unconsciously push you to make the same mistake to prove the correctness of their choice.

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  4. Why is it not a good idea to get vaccinated? I have various vaccinations, all very useful, including for tetanus, shingles, yellow fever, smallpox, polio and more.

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    1. It’s a good idea for people to do what they want with their bodies. I don’t want to do this with my body. Should I be forced? This is the issue here. If the answer is yes, how does anybody argue that other things shouldn’t be done to our bodies “for the public good”?

      This isn’t about masks, testing or vaccines. It’s about habituating us to obeying and accepting meaningless, invasive, ridiculous orders.

      It always starts with seemingly insignificant things.

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      1. We’ve been having required vaccinations as long as I can remember. You can’t get into Brazil from Peru without a yellow fever vaccination, etc., etc. — .

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        1. This isn’t yellow fever. It’s less serious than the flu for most people. And look what’s been done to us over it. I talked today to a student who is now homeless because of all this. What are we doing? Why?

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  5. Oh, I see – side effects. I haven’t had side effects from other vaccines, why should this one have them?

    It could be a dud, it’s true, but that doesn’t seem like a reason not to try it to me.

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    1. For one, the Pfizer vaccine has well-documented side effects that can put you out of work for three days.

      Does everyone get them? Of course not. But enough people have gotten them that epidemiologists are concerned about anyone’s willingness to get a vaccine that can put them out of commission for three days. What employer is going to allow the vast majority of people vaccinated to call out because of that?

      I hate being a guinea pig. We have no idea how long these particular antibodies last. Natural antibodies supposedly last between three and six months, and we have zero data on these ones because it’s come out so damn quickly. Any long-term effects will essentially be tested on healthcare workers and anyone else in the first group to get it. People are talking about dropping out of the trials because it’s the only way to be absolutely certain they’ll have been vaccinated. This messes up long-term efficacy studies because there is no control, and unblinding participants causes bias and can mess up the studies, as well. I have nothing against the vaccine itself–if they’ll even put healthcare workers who have had COVID on the list to receive it–I have a problem with being forced into being a test subject.

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        1. It’s completely totalitarian. Hey, who needs cards? Let’s just put a yellow star on the left side of our chests for everybody to see and cart us off to ghettos for non-compliance.

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  6. Just going to point out that everyone is using the words ‘the vaccine’ when in point of fact, several vaccines have been developed or are in development.

    What that means is that talk about COVID vaccination in future has already been made impossible.

    If one vaccine has side effects, people who like vaccines will say that it was the ‘other’ vaccine that had side effects, while those who don’t like vaccines will cherry pick one of the ones that had bad side effects even if it isn’t available in their country.

    If you didn’t pick up on the use of the words ‘the vaccine’ to describe a situation where there are several vaccines, it is possible that you may about to be dazzled by the biggest display of medical propaganda in the history of planet Earth.

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  7. Four reasons for requiring vaccinations:
    1l There is a long tradition of requiring vaccines in developed countries. I needed to provide vaccination records before I started graduate school as an adult for instance. In another example, most states don’t allow unvaccinated children in public schools. If you’re only argument against vaccination is “my body/my choice,” that really doesn’t hold with most educated, civil society. If you want to remain unvaccinated, there are pockets of the country that will accept you (off the grid communes, extreme religious communities etc.) But if you want the benefits of developed society (schools, museums, theater, restaurants), we have all collectively decided there are certain moments where we have to reign in our ids and subject our bodies to the collective will– i.e. wear clothes, shower, wear shoes etc. Vaccination is one of those things, a price of admission of sorts. It’s basic medical hygiene.

    2) In regards to COVID, it is very clear that people older than 55 are vulnerable to the virus. My understanding is that this particular vaccine is not a magic bullet– i.e. if you get the vaccine you are not necessarily 100% immune. Immunity is achieved if the majority of the population gets the vaccine. Since you will assuredly be working with people over 55, it is fair to ask you to follow the hygienic rules of civil society and get vaccinated.

    3) I agree with you that the fear of COVID is overblown and the disease is not nearly as deadly as initially feared. That being said, this disease is not like the flu in that it is highly unpredictable. A neighbor of mine was 42, in good health, and passed last week due to COVID complications (I didn’tknow her well. So this is more a data point than a personal tragedy). I have never in my life met a healthy 42 year old who died of the flu. COVID can also sometimes have nasty long-term effects, such as scarred lungs and decreased breathing capacity. COVID is not as deadly as some hysterics proclaim but it is also not the utterly benign disease you seem to think it is.

    4) Vaccines are safe. This vaccine has had top scientists working on it all around the world. Rich people have invested money in its success. And governmens, even totalitarian ones, don’t benefit from people getting vaccinated (other than it can open public spaces again, which will jumpstart the economy.) Truly, only religious maniacs, off the griders, and kooky California hippies are anti vaccine. Vaccines are important and good for society.

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    1. ” the disease is not nearly as deadly as…That being said, this disease is not like the flu ..it is highly unpredictable”

      As good a place as any for this, but the entire media narrative about covid lacks face validity. This doesn’t necessarily mean anyone (outside of China) is lying…. but the numbers just don’t make sense and the more you look at them the less sense they make. The world is a crazy place so anything can happen… but the thing is usually anything doesn’t happen…

      My current hypothesis: There’s a real covid that’s pretty dangerous but not very contagious and a combination of panic spirals, medical system breakdowns,misdiagnoses (with other viruses going around) are responsible for most of the deaths.

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    2. First of all, conflation of all vaccines with this one and its opponents with anti-vaxxers is a cheap ideological manipulation. Let’s not buy into it, Ok? This was cooked up by the same people who gave us the rhetorical trick of “if you don’t worship Ibram Kendi, you must be in the KKK.”

      This vaccine isn’t like all other vaccines and we know that. The reason why you get your flu shot every year and not just once in childhood and it still is only effective in less than half of cases is that influenza-type viruses are rapidly mutating. This year’s flu isn’t last year’s flu. It’s a different strain. We know that, right? Today’s SARS-COV-2 isn’t the one we had in March. It’s mutated. There’s a mountain of research on that. So any conflation of this “vaccine” that’s guaranteed not to work by the very nature of the virus with chickenpox or measles vaccines is dishonest and meaningless.

      Now a question. As a clearly intelligent person who are obviously aware of the differences between influenza-type viruses and the illnesses we get vaccinated for in childhood, what prompted you to forget all this knowledge and start conflating two completely different things? And this is actually the third time in two days in seeing this conflation only on this small blog. Who’s polluting people’s brains with this false analogy?

      Another question. Isn’t this very argument the perfect demonstration that this SARS-COV-2 vaccine can’t be defended? If you can’t say anything in favor of it without making use of these cheap manipulations cooked up in the press room of WashPo, what does this tell us?

      This is absolutely the last time I’m discussing the subject of “but vaccines” on my blog. Life is too short for me to waste it on this arrant idiocy. Anybody who tried to convince themselves that I’m some sort of anti-vaxxer is beyond rationality or reason and should go someplace else.

      It’s such a common type of manipulation and still people buy into it. “Everybody who disagrees with me on whatever is a fascist, a Nazi, a Russian spy, a Fox News viewer, and now an anti-vaxxer.”

      No, I’m not playing this game. Anybody who wants to inform me that vaccines in general are good should spare themselves the trouble.

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      1. 1) The reason I am conflating this vaccine with other vaccines was because of your “my body/my choice” argument. I maintain that it is a bad argument when it comes to vaccines. For instance, I don’t usually get the influenza vaccine but think my employer would be within their rights to require it and I would get one without fuss if they did (and my employer does indeed require proof of vaccination for other diseases).

        2) Your new argument seems to be based on longevity (i.e. immunity won’t last so why get vaccinated?). It is worth noting that the very reason that the medical community is so excited about this vaccine is because it seems that this virus is NOT mutating particularly quickly and that this vaccine may give long-term immunity (or long-term enough for the virus to die out). COVID is not influenza. It is a mistake to collapse them.

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        1. This is completely untrue. Even people who had COVID, and in very serious forms, too, are said to be capable of reinfection within months. People who has COVID are told to quarantine and wear masks.

          The excited medical community you are talking about exists nowhere but in propaganda sheets such as WashPo.

          But hey, if you think employers are justified in bullying people into getting flu vaccines, this means we have a completely different understanding of human dignity and don’t have the kind of shared basic values needed for a productive discussion.

          In the USSR, people thought the employers were completely within their rights to interrupt the workday and send them to sort rotting cabbage or wash toilets at any given time. I always despised those people.

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          1. What do people not understand about rush jobs? If your doctor told you there’s a promising new medication he thinks you should take– and oh by the way it was just got rammed through the approval process in record time with minimal short-term safety trials because it is just THAT GREAT (and also the drug company has no liability for any ill effects and is guaranteed to make billions on it), would these same people jump at the opportunity with the same total lack of critical thinking and drug-company cynicism? I mean, some people are just chumps and there’s no accounting for them, but I’d hope some of them would have a baseline level of skepticism.

            Giant drug corporations with no financial liablity are not your friends, remember?

            I remember not so long ago, lefties were enemies of the corporate state. What happened?

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          2. I think employers and schools can (and many times should) require vaccinations. This is something that is upheld by most of American civil society. Nobody said anything about cabbage picking. We either accepts vaccines or we don’t. I accept them. Your position isn’t entirely clear or consistent and seems largely motivated by right wing conspiracy theory and hysteria.

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              1. If people are bent on putting words in your mouth, there’s nothing to do. They are going to continue to hammer on like woodpeckers. They do it to silence the inner voice that tells them something isn’t working in their system of reasoning.

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            1. I don’t like repeating myself if I’m not getting paid to do so. I already said I’m not discussing “vaccinations” here.

              Also, you seem to be new so you probably don’t know that anybody who takes this pissy tone with me is asked to leave. Please get yourself under control now.

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        2. Employers are not within their rights to require flu vaccine. They can’t require you to get any vaccine — even in a hospital or research lab. They can strongly recommend it, and many employers with vaccine programs offer it themselves for free or at reduced cost to their employees. But one of the reasons they cannot require it is that there are people who cannot receive vaccines due to immunocompromising conditions. They cannot discriminate against these people, but they do have a responsibility to provide the appropriate PPE to mitigate the risk of people getting those diseases and offer vaccination or encourage their employees to get vaccinated against the relevant illnesses when possible. The employee signs a waver indicating that they understand the risks of not getting such and such vaccine and sometimes the reason–but if employers require a reason they must keep that in a secure employee medical file that is closed to everyone but that employee’s treating physician or occupational medicine physician, or something like that.

          This is the law in the United States. I looked it up when I started working at a hospital. Employee medical records are protected medical records. Even researchers working with viruses similar to smallpox have a choice whether to accept the smallpox vaccine or not–there was a pretty damn stunning example of why that tech should have been better educated as to the risks of not remaining vaccinated in the past two years: a tech working with a virus similar to smallpox acquired a very nasty case of horsepox, I believe, because she declined vaccination when her employer didn’t actually tell her why she was being offered the smallpox vaccine.

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            1. COVID has people panicking. There are already lawsuits for wrongful terminations of people who have had it, or who needed time off to take care of their kids. There are doctors who openly deny care to patients who have tested positive at any time–it is extremely difficult to get followup care, even in a severe case. Be cautious and always cite the applicable law in your reasoning. They may still try to hold it against you, and it could turn into an uphill battle. But the thing is, you’re not a child. You are able to make informed consent, and you are also able to make an informed declination. Adults have the ability to make these decisions.

              However, I doubt you would be in the first wave as you are not elderly nor a healthcare worker, so you have some time at least.

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  8. “I fear that we will be forced to take the vaccine, and those who refuse will be barred from the classroom.”

    I have been following this discussion and I understand your position. For what it’s worth, here’s mine.

    I’ve had a lot of shots in my life, more than typical because of exotic travel, some with quite unpleasant side effects, and I’m good with them if there is a good reason for it. I don’t get the annual flu shot because statistics say that it’s just short of useless and so there’s little personal or social benefit to taking the trouble to get jabbed.

    With COVID, I will get the vaccine when made available in the hopes that it will be effective in undermining the power of the public health crazies who’ve got the west hiding in fear under their beds. So my purpose would be social/political rather than medical. If it actually turns out to be effective for more than a few months, so much the better.

    As a condition of employment? Unless I were pretty certain that the shot was going to make me seriously ill, I’d be OK with that if it were the case that my employer paid my medical insurance premiums/bills. I can also see the possibility of liability issues for the employer in relation to my clients and that would be another good reason why I would be OK with an order to get vaccinated.

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