Update on the Rape of a Russian Girl in Berlin

The Berlin police continues to investigate the alleged rape of a 13 – year-old Russian girl.

Martin Steltner, a spokesman for the prosecutor’s office, happily assured the public that there was no rape. The girl, he said, had had consensual sex with two adult men of Turkish descent.

At 13. Consensual sex with adults.

Makes total sense.

In any case, Steltner said, it was the girl’s fault for falling in with a bad crowd.

Tomorrow we might hear that the child raped these adults.

Steltner, by the way, is the same fellow who back in October dismissed the overwhelming evidence that male refugees were posting selfies with stolen goods they acquired in the course of criminal activities. These male refugees were, for Steltner, “just kids.”

Here’s the link. And here is another.

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Sterculian Rhetoric

January 27, 2016

Perhaps it was in retribution for this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_during_the_occupation_of_Germany

You know how those Euro-trash folks are, they have keep grudges for, like, ever! Witness the Prods and Taigs in the Emerald Isle who require still walls to separate them ’cause for them, the Battle of the Boyne happened only yesterday

Query?
May I pixellate hyperbolic profanity ’round here? My word salads are but bland pablum without my much lauded potty mouth. If not, I’ll understand and adapt accordingly.

For instance, this

http://sterculianrhetoric.blogspot.ca/2015/07/queer-as-cunt.html

would be rater limp without what heretofore passes for profanity. Innit?

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Stringer Bell

January 27, 2016

Does google have a gibberish to english translator?

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1. Clarissa
  
  January 27, 2016
  
  I have no idea what he is saying either.
  
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2. Shakti
  
  January 27, 2016
  
  I got, “Maybe this is retribution for Russian soldiers raping German women during the occupation of Germany”, something about the Irish, and “May I swear? If I can’t swear it cramps my style!”
  
  Word of advice: If you’re going to affect a pretentious potty mouth affect, be careful of the effect. Asking if you can “pixellate hyperbolic profanity” sounds like “can I just copy paste my words with spoiler tags for profanity?” (unless you’re just going to post images) and directly contradicts the rest of your paragraph. Further, I don’t think this platform supports that tag, even though it supports strikethroughs.
  
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3. Sterculian Rhetoric
  
  January 27, 2016
  
  I apologize Stringer Bell, The Queen’s English is my fourth language and I don’t know how to write it any other way. Perhaps a thesaurus might help? Or perhaps contact one of your brightest friends and get her to ‘translate’ it for you.
  
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4. Sterculian Rhetoric
  
  January 27, 2016
  
  Dearest Shakti
  Spot on!
  “Asking to pixellate hyperbolic profanity” is hyperbolic in itself and therefore funny – or it was meant to be.
  
  Nice name by the way.
  
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5. Sterculian Rhetoric
  
  January 27, 2016
  
  Clarissa, I am a girl, silly.
  And I mean no harm.
  Why have your followers – well-meaning Beta males no doubt – decided that you, the Alpha, require protection from me and decided to confront me? Are all newcomers to this blog treated with such hostility?
  What did I do that was so heinous?
  My sesquipedalia is my schtick – to use a nice Yiddish word.
  I am not a threat.
  I am a 30 something Burmese female who together with my 5o something ‘White Boy’ Canadian Tutor, travel to the worst places on this planet dispensing primary care medicine for various NGOs. I watch children die in my arms for a living and all I want to do when I am not ‘in the field’ is make others laugh. Some folk in my line of work turn to dope or strong drink, I choose humour, satire, sarcasm and very creative profanity.
  
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  1. Clarissa
    
    January 27, 2016
    
    “Why have your followers – well-meaning Beta males no doubt – decided that you, the Alpha, require protection from me and decided to confront me?”
    
    I don’t understand the Alpha, Beta, Theta stuff but yes, everybody who comes here is put through trial by aggression. If they prove resilient, they can stay. I’m not a warm and fluffy person, what can I do?
    
    Don’t take this personally, please, this is just who I am.
    
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    1. Sterculian Rhetoric
      
      January 27, 2016
      
      Right then!
      I’m in!
      
      The ‘Alpha Beta stuff’ is in reference to Wolf Pack mentality. The Alpha is the top dog – or wolf in this case. The Beta Males are second in command and are normally the enforcers who defend the Alpha. Blog Circles have many of the attributes of a Wolf Pack.
      
      It is not that my chosen response to the ills of my vocation is productive, it’s that it is a less expensive method of coping.
      
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      1. Rhoda
        
        January 27, 2016
        
        Actually, the ‘alpha male’ is a myth even when it comes to wolves.
        The scientist who did the original research on captive wolves in the 1970s later found that wild wolves did not behave like this. The typical wolf pack is a family with a breeding male and female and their cubs.
        
        However, the alpha male idea did lead to some entertaining fantasy fiction about werewolves.
        
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        Clarissa
        
        January 27, 2016
        
        Yes, I also find the whole alpha-beta-delta theory to be weird and meaningless.
        
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  2. Clarissa
    
    January 27, 2016
    
    “Some folk in my line of work turn to dope or strong drink, I choose humour, satire, sarcasm and very creative profanity.”
    
    Good for you! I’d be more of a turning to the drink kind of person, so I admire people who can do something more productive.
    
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    January 27, 2016
    
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Shakti

January 27, 2016

So they’re guilty because 13 year olds can’t consent under statutory rape laws? Or does Germany not have those laws? This seems ridiculous on its face.

Here’s a storify by a lawyer on age of consent laws in an American context

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Clarissa

January 27, 2016

Under German laws, 13 is below the age of consent. But the German police says she got in the car with these men of her own free will, so it can’t be rape.

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cliff arroyo

January 27, 2016

I was really hoping this wasn’t true because the implications for the girl are so horrible….

Putting this and a bunch of other data points together leads me to the conclusion that western european leaders want this to be happening.

That is, if I didn’t know better I’d think that european leaders are in favor of large numbers of women being sexually assaulted by new migrants – and I’m afraid I don’t know better.

The question is why? Is it part of creating ‘the other’?

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Clarissa

January 27, 2016

My first thought was that the Russian media were inventing all this because that’s their modus operandi. But now the Berlin police has confirmed the facts of the story. The girl is real, the sex acts are real, the men are real. All that’s in dispute is whether 13-year-olds can have consensual sex with adults, especially when the girl insists when was raped.

The hostility of the German authorities to this child is truly shocking. Let’s remember that she is an immigrant, just like the accused are immigrants. But it seems like there are different classes of immigrants, and they get treated differently.

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January 27, 2016

\ Yes, I also find the whole alpha-beta-delta theory to be weird and meaningless.

The roots of alpha wolf thing lie in Nazi ideology. Interesting how many people spouting the terms know that or (would) care:

Most people don’t know that the entire science of animal psychology got its start in Hitler’s Germany. This happened in Berlin on 10th January, 1936, when the German Society for Animal Psychology was founded under the auspices of, and sponsorship by, the Nazi government. Konrad Lorenz was co-editor and an important contributor, writing many articles for the Society’s journal, Zeitschrift für Tierpsychologie. Unlike some others who stood at the roots of animal psychology as a science, Lorenz never had problems with the Nazi authorities. On the contrary, he joined the party as soon as he could (1938), and the Nazis liked him so much that he was appointed professor of psychology at the University of Königsberg in 1940. The admiration was mutual. Lorenz worked at the Race Policy
Bureau. In 1942, he participated in examining 877 people of mixed Polish–German descent, selecting who would and who wouldn’t go to a concentration camp to be murdered. He believed firmly in superior and inferior races and consistently expressed great contempt for the latter. He believed in a strict, hierarchical society, in which an absolute authority ruled to whom all owed obedience. And, just as humans had always done before them, the Nazis — including Lorenz — projected their ideas about human society onto the animal kingdom. This is illustrated by the Nazi Cult of the Wolf.
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Projecting, and without bothering to read any science or to gain any real
knowledge, the Nazis (and Lorenz) depicted the wolf as a noble, wild, hardened, ruthless animal who possessed all kinds of wonderful Nazi characteristics. The wolf lived, just like the Nazi, in a closed and elite group. He was, just like the Nazi, absolutely loyal to this group, ready to unquestioningly sacrifice his life for the sake of the group if the need arose. The group’s structure was just as hierarchical and rigid as the structure of the Nazi Party. Each wolf had a rank he strictly adhered to, submissive to those above him, ruthless to those beneath him. Most important perhaps, the wolves were led by a sort of Führer: the Alpha Leader.
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Lorenz specialised in studying birds. His ideas about wolves had their sole source in the Nazi Cult of the Wolf, not in science.
http://www.nonlineardogs.com/100MostSillyPart1-2.html

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January 27, 2016

Regarding the rape, I did feel really … unpleasant reading from you that

“Russian immigrants in Germany are the worst Russian immigrants of all. They’ve been creating anti-German scandals for years.”

and from a Ukrainian woman from Kiev that

“Most probably, there really was no rape. And, for sure, the girl wasn’t treated the way Russians are trying to describe it, it’s just implausible.”

I understand both you and her feel for Ukrainians (while I don’t identify with Ukraine), but that looks like a clear case of rape while Germans behave despisingly. No Russian (or Ukrainian or other) Untermensch are going to be let to present Germany in a bad light by claiming victimhood. Only German women and German chosen pet refugee project participants can do that.

It looked like rape from the beginning too: how many EU women and children have already been assaulted? If you believe victims, why not believe only because this time a child (!) happened to be Russian? Of course, it was bound to happen. My prediction for future: a woman is raped and then killed. It has already almost happened and there also was a case of murder of the social worker, but I predict a bit different scenario.

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January 27, 2016

It is Cold War kind of propoganda from both sides. From an English-language German news website:

“Experts tell The Local that Russian media’s new-found interest in refugee crimes in Germany is part of a Kremlin strategy to strengthen President Vladimir Putin at home and weaken the European Union. […] it’s part of a bigger strategy to manipulate the information space in Germany and the EU, to disquiet the population.”
http://www.thelocal.de/20160127/kremlin-propaganda-targets-germanys-refugee-weak-spot

The girl could have been killed and German authorities would’ve said she committed suicide. EU countries regularly hide identities of attackers for less good reasons. Wait, actually for the same reason – not to “disquiet the population.”

Another article on that website is about he 84-year-old scholar and Holocaust survivor “who now lives in the United States” supporting Merkel’s open door policy:

\ “I am one of the many outsiders who has gone from surprise to admiration,” Klüger said, describing Merkel’s rallying call of “We can do it” as a “simple but heroic slogan”.
http://www.thelocal.de/20160127/holocaust-survivor-lauds-merkels-heroic-refugee-policy

Interesting what she would think a year after moving to a refugee area as a Jew residing in Germany.

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Clarissa

January 27, 2016

Oh, absolutely, the Russians are exploiting the situation. Their media milked the Cologne assaults for weeks. But that doesn’t mean the assaults didn’t happen, of course.

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Clarissa

January 27, 2016

As for Klüger, with all due respect, at the age of 84, she has less need to worry about sexual assault than she would have 60 years ago.

This reminded me of a male colleague, a tall burly fellow with a beard who told me, completely seriously, that he did not understand why refugees were causing so much panic.

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1. el
  
  January 27, 2016
  
  \ As for Klüger, with all due respect, at the age of 84, she has less need to worry about sexual assault than she would have 60 years ago.
  
  Not being “a tall burly fellow with a beard,” she has more need to worry about antisemitic assault.
  
  The attackers in Israel usually choose weaker targets: pregnant women, children, old people.
  
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  1. Clarissa
    
    January 27, 2016
    
    Unless she walks around waving a flag of Israel, how would anybody identify her for anti-Semitic purposes, though?
    
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January 27, 2016

\ Unless she walks around waving a flag of Israel, how would anybody identify her for anti-Semitic purposes, though?

Does she look like a German woman? Neither German nor Muslim = Jew.

Most importantly, just living with the awareness and/or wondering “if they knew” would do the trick. When my mother and me suddenly found ourselves alone in an all-Muslim London park, it was not a pleasant feeling. And my mother does look Jewish.

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Clarissa

January 27, 2016

This lady does look German to me. But yes, my sister and I also found ourselves in London ‘ s Little Beirut and it was depressing, seeing all those angry shrouded women and their smug, rude owners.

My sister always gets mistaken for Syrian or Lebanese, so there’s an added factor of worrying that her wardrobe might mark her as some sort of an apostate.

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1. el
  
  January 27, 2016
  
  \ This lady does look German to me.
  
  Especially the nose. 🙂
  
  A serious question: may be, it is partly because of autism? You said you find it hard to analyze movies, for instance.
  
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  1. Clarissa
    
    January 27, 2016
    
    The image of blond, button-nosed Germans is a fabrication, really. This is not a woman who’d stand out in Germany in any way.
    
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    1. Dreidel
      
      January 27, 2016
      
      I was stationed in Germany for years, and there is no specific “German” look. The general population there simply looks like generic white Europeans — and except for sometimes characteristic clothing, the same as generic non-ethnic white Americans.
      
      When I spoke German to Germans who didn’t know me, they thought that I was British because of my English-accented German. In Italy, when I spoke Italian to locals, the Italians thought I was a German tourist.
      
      We all look alike. 🙂
      
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      1. Clarissa
        
        January 27, 2016
        
        Exactly.
        
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January 27, 2016

Also, we were in London as tourists just a few days, but already were asked by a Muslim man where we were from (in an Underground) and then two European ladies asked the same when we asked them for directions (in the place outside the city center where we saw some refugee / migrant camp). Just to be safe, we lied both times by saying “Ukraine” and it was not pleasant. When you live in a place, some people will know who you are unless you hide really well on purpose.

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January 28, 2016

Update: Clarissa, all our talking about the difficulties of integrating lone immigrant children were a waste of breath. If this murderer is 15, I am a queen of England. Look at the photo:

Six-foot tall, the ‘child’ accused of murdering a Swedish aid worker appeared in court today.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3421150/First-picture-Six-foot-tall-15-year-old-Somali-boy-killer-Swedish-asylum-worker-appears-court-charged-murder.html

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Clarissa

January 28, 2016

Oh God. What a disaster.

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1. el
  
  January 28, 2016
  
  \ Oh God. What a disaster.
  
  Just saw the latest news. The stated by Nilsson’s reason is too weird:
  
  Young migrants go on rampage at child refugee centre in Sweden, forcing terrified staff to lock themselves in an office as 19 people go on rampage with makeshift weapons
  
  Staff forced to barricade themselves inside a room at the children’s shelter
  
  Incident follows the death of Swedish aid worker, Alexandra Mezher, 22
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  The violence started after staff refused a request for a resident at the refugee centre to buy sweets, John Nilsson, from the local police force, told Barometern newspaper.
  
  ‘[They] became furious with the staff member,’ he added. ‘He collected together around 15 friends and the staff were forced to shut themselves in while they broke windows and did what they liked.’
  
  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3421597/Young-migrants-rampage-child-refugee-centre-Sweden-forcing-terrified-staff-lock-office-19-people-rampage-makeshift-weapons.html
  
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