And now that Hillary slaughtered in SC, the poor, sad MSNBC journalists still don’t quit.
“A win like this for Sanders. . . sorry, for Clinton,” one says with a hangdog look.
“But there are still the emails! The FBI might still bring charges!” another one ventures hopefully.
Well, why don’t you watch a real news channel, Like CNN or Fox — both of which acknowledge that Hillary won overwhelmingly?
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Because I like to stew in my resentment. 🙂
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“But there are still the emails! The FBI might still bring charges!”
Hillary has about as much risk of being indicted by the Obama Justice Department as she does of being struck by a meteorite.
Relax — she’s got the Democratic nomination sewn up now. 😦
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Hey, what does everybody think of a Clinton-Sanders ticket? It might not satisfy every Bernie supporter but it will surely placate them to an extent.
The combined base is huge and energized. Literally everyone 18 to 100 years old. Whichever demographic you’re looking for is represented.
Is it that crazy of an idea? They’ve voted on the same side of bills in the senate more than 90% of the time.
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Hillary is going to start moving back toward the center in the general election because she knows that she needs independents and moderates to win. The last thing she wants on her ticket is a loony far-leftie.
Maybe that combination would bring Sanders’ energized “revolutionary” far-left base out to the voting booths — but it would turn off the much larger national group of moderates that always decide U.S. Presidential elections.
(In other words: I’m all in favor of a Clinton-Sanders ticket! 🙂 )
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“…turn off the much larger national group of moderates that always decide U.S. Presidential elections.”
Good points if they were valid. Do you really believe anything in this election is following a predetermined script dictated by conventional wisdom?
That thinking is outdated now, in my opinion. In the last two out of three presidential elections, the candidate who won the independents lost the election.
Energizing the base seems to be the strategy now instead of focusing on ‘moderates’ (who’re really right of center anyway) or undecideds.
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The studies I’m aware of show that true “moderates” or independent voters, that is, voters who don’t vote a consistent ticket or party preference constitute about 5% of the electorate. There are “moderates” who consistently vote a party or single ideology, they just don’t identify themselves as big-D or big-R voters.
As for moving back to the center, what, is she going to promise to build a wall on the Southern border but have Bill Gates or the Clinton Foundation to fund it instead of Mexico?
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If they’re undecided or independent, say a week before the election, in the most polarizing political environment in US history, wouldn’t the correct category for that person be ‘apolitical’? I don’t see these people having the motivation to stand 4 hours in a line to vote.
I have a feeling this whole undecided/moderate/ thing is a myth. These motherfuckers just want the attention and want to be courted by both sides. Maybe it was a thing 30 years ago when parties worked more closely with each other. But now? No fucking way. If you’re not sure who to vote for: Hillary or Trump, you’re a dithering fool who doesn’t give a shit about politics or goverment. If these guys care enough to vote, it’ll probably break even on both sides.
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I have a feeling this whole undecided/moderate/ thing is a myth. These motherfuckers just want the attention and want to be courted by both sides.
Yep. Nailed it.
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“Do you really believe anything in this election is following a predetermined script dictated by conventional wisdom?”
Well, at least establishment candidate Hillary ultimately triumphed over the 74-year-old revolutionary socialist, so the gravitational political forces of nature are finally pulling the Democratic Party back into its natural, well-traveled orbital path. That may ultimately happen in the Republican primaries as well.
If Trump wins the Republican nomination — as a number of political insiders are already predicting — then I’ll admit that the U.S. political process has gone crazy, and all conventional bets are off.
But it hasn’t come to that — yet.
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Every winner of the South Carolina Republican party primary since 1980 has gone on to garner the party’s nomination —except in 2012.
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Is it that crazy of an idea? They’ve voted on the same side of bills in the senate more than 90% of the time
I think their ages and egos would make it unlikely.
How in the world would he walk back drawing his strong contrasts to Clinton? (“My campaign is all small donors; she has superPACs! She can’t do it because she’s cozy with Wall Street, I’m not, etc) More importantly, I just don’t see Sanders serving as VP, toeing a party line (you know Clinton is not going to let him exercise power like Cheney) and since he’s older than she is, all things equal health wise, he’s more likely to die before she does.
If Sanders wins, I see Clinton helping him campaign, but I don’t see her necessarily running as VP. As a VP candidate she would get all of the attacks she’d get in a general election campaign to be …the tiebreaker vote in the Senate? I just don’t see Bill cooperating.
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“I don’t see her necessarily running as VP.”
There’s NO WAY that Hillary would run as Sanders’ V.P. If Bernie got elected President, she’d be too old (and too much very yesterday’s news ) to run again for President in 2020, even if Bernie didn’t run for re-election. If he did run for a second term, Hillary couldn’t try for President again until 2024, in her late seventies –not going to happen!
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“How in the world would he walk back drawing his strong contrasts to Clinton? ”
There’s a lot of bad blood in the primaries but these things get resolved in time for the general. There’s so much shit-talking in debates anyway.
Biden actually said this in the 2008 primaries:
“I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,” Biden said. “I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”
You’re probably right, though. I’m not sure myself, which is why I’m asking for everyone’s feedback.
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Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg has recently said that he’s considering entering the presidential race by early March. How will this change the electoral dynamics if it happens? Stephen Harper won the federal election in Canada three times with just over a third of the vote by having the Liberals and NDP split the anti-conservative vote.
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