People who call themselves conservatives and defend Andrew Tate, what exactly do they think they are conserving? The right to sexual depravity?
Both Tate and his cohort of prostitutes are despicable people and should be beneath our notice. They pollute our brains, and we start rummaging in their filth, trying to figure out which one of them is “the victim” of the other.
They all suck (no pun intended). Let’s not lower ourselves to their level by knowing anything else about them.
I must say, I haven’t noticed any a tate fans among French, Spanish or English conservatives. I can’t say anything about other Europeans because I don’t speak their languages and, therefore, I don’t follow their media. This nod of approval for sleaze seems to be exclusively a feature of American conservatives (some Canadians, too).
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“tate fans”
His popularity among US conservatives is rooted in early “manosphere” stuff which is actually based on the “pick up artists” of old and blogs like roissy and roosh…
AFAIK none of that was a thing in the countries you mentioned….
My favorite aspect of this was the way he bragged about choosing Romania as a bas of operations because law enforcement was so lax and corruption so high…. then when he’s finally arrested he starts crying like a little b-tch about how it’s not faaaaiiiirrrr….
The funny thing is that Roosh has since become Orthodox and spent a lot of time very publicly repenting his involvement in the PUA thing. He’s still kind of creepy and obsessive, just in a religious direction now. Perhaps he’ll mellow out with age, guidance, and ascetic discipline.
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I’m sorry to say the Brits have joined in (though, for obvious reasons, nobody serious or intelligent, just “prominent.”)
https://twitter.com/ZubyMusic/status/1687648489981743104
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I haven’t noticed any university professors or even politicians in UK speaking in favour of (or even about) a tate. Maybe there are some wide boys who want to cash in on the whole incel loser thing and get subscribers. Yes, he had zillions subscribers (because there are zillions of incel losers, you can’t go wrong with that sort of content) but the Dodo has even more fans (he just shows puppies) and also a woman who squeezes spots. Doing “better”??? You mean praying on vulnerable people, looking grotesque and buying bling?
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I don’t think I’ve seen any U.S. politicians or professors speaking in favor of Tate either, though admittedly I’m not keeping up and could’ve easily missed something. For the most part it seems to be pundits, the U.S. equivalents of this Zuby idiot, etc.
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Not. Conserving. Anything. Worth. Having.
It’s a byproduct of the tacit alliance between libertarians and conservatives in the US. But also, the way conservatives have no identity of their own, and are forced to define themselves by what they oppose. “What you contemplate, you imitate”. I also think we’re seeing the last dying gasps of that slimy eel on the beach.
Maybe it started before my time, but from my limited-scope view, the acceptance of divorce among protestants was a major turning point… followed by the collapse of the Moral Majority thing, after which being a sincere Christian who actually took the basic moral tenets of the religion seriously became so uncool that “conservatives” abandoned everything that looked like a religious stance in a stupid effort to claw back their waning popularity.
That’s a losing game– pursuing coolness, that is. You either defect to the other side, or you become a cheap knockoff version that nobody actually wants– like Christian rock music.
Meanwhile, back in the corners where nobody’s been watching, traditional religious groups are still plugging along like always. And now that Evangelicalism is imploding… they’re picking up the serious seekers at an astonishing rate. In my parish, we added 30 new people in the last…. 6 months? Less? Most of them converts. Our archdiocese has 1/3 of its parishes either building or buying a new building, and we’ve been putting down 1 mission per year for a while– possibly four this year. This has all happened in the last two years. Before that my parish had been stagnant for 10 years. I’ve heard similar things from trad Catholics– same timeframe, same explosive growth– and I would not be at all surprised if some of that wave wasn’t also washing up in mosques and synagogues. The one place it isn’t going is mainline churches.
The new people are deeply, seriously, conservative. I don’t get the feeling they’re very political though– if anything they’ve already done the political-fervor thing and are now redirecting their efforts in a religious direction. Who knows if they’ll stick around for the long haul, or if they will move on to something else when they get bored/disillusioned. We’ll see.
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