Haley vs Biden

~ Clarissa

These polls are completely worthless. Haley supports transing children, supports increased immigration, supports Internet censorship and has zero conservative thoughts on anything. I have been able to discern zero differences between her and Biden. And for the voters who like Biden, there’s actual Biden to vote for. Between Haley and Biden, I’d go with Biden.

We are stuck with Biden versus Trump because no candidate wants to be anything other than Biden and Trump. And instead of going for an imitation, it makes more sense to go with the original.

I have absolutely no idea why, with so many candidates, we can’t have a single one who isn’t trying to slavishly imitate the candidates from 2020. That wasn’t a great year or a good campaign. I’d really like to move on but, clearly, Americans disagree and want to keep redoing 2020.

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  1. The bit about transing children is actually not true, people have been distributing a misleading video that cuts off part of her answer. But yes, she’s a fairly worthless candidate beyond her support of Ukraine.

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    1. The only answer that’s acceptable to me is, “I’ll ban it by executive order on day 1”. Unfortunately, I don’t think anybody is giving this answer, let alone actually planning to do it.

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      1. who cares? when will we move one from dumb social issues that affect the 0.01% of the population? It’s being used a cudgel as a divide and conquer strategy, and the sooner we stop making that the top of our priorities the better. There are many many many other far more important issues to attend to.

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        1. I must be living in a different Universe from yours. The proportion of trans people in the population of College-aged students is well over 0.01 % (by at least an order of magnitude, possibly even two-to-three). This is not a marginal, inconsequential matter.

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          1. It’s about 1 in 30 among the students I’m seeing. Every classroom with about 30 students has at least one.

            Even two years ago, there was nothing like it. This is a very dramatic, fast explosion.

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            1. And it doesn’t even matter how many there are. Any of us can be fired or unpersonned for not worshipping at their altar. Even if there were zero of them in existence, what would it change for us and the fact that we live in fear of this lunacy?

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            2. My experience is similar to yours, except the ratio for me is closer to 1 in 10. I live in a purple state. The problem is that a lot of people are affected as we are all expected to go along with this unquestionably. Sadly, these people have significant problems and are not being helped by the current system.

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              1. I have almost no social life and a very limited acquaintance. And even so, I know two families that transed their kids + another family that tried but was unsuccessful. In one case, it was a mildly autistic teenage boy. In another, a shy 11-year girl. In the case where the family was unsuccessful, it was a 5-year-old boy.

                And there is a family at church that managed to guide their shy teenage girl away from transing.

                That’s an enormous lot for somebody like me who barely knows any people.

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            3. Among my 10ish nieces and nephews, 2 have declared themselves some iteration of “nonbinary” and engage in occasional crossdressing and using an opposite-gender nickname. So far, nobody’s going the whole hormones-and-surgery business, thank heaven. But that’s 20% of the sample and seems rather high.

              There’s a creepy modern aesthetic among the younger set, part and parcel of the victim mentality thing, that does not allow for strength as a virtue. My niece showed up this Christmas with a card game subtitled “cute vs. evil”… that pretty much sums it up. There’s no good. Best you can be is cute, harmless, big-eyed waifu don’t-hurt-me-because-that’ll-make-you-look-bad, never “leave me and mine alone or face consequences”.

              Except the aesthetic they’re actually achieving isn’t even cute. It’s actively repulsive, like when you mix all the paint colors together you don’t get a rainbow, you get shit brown.

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              1. Interesting… I work in a university that is considered pretty woke, yet I do not know any actual trans people. I know several who prefer to be considered non-binary. A couple of them I know well enough to know that they are not interested in any surgery or hormonal therapies, but just do not feel that they fit either gender, mental setup-wise. I am not sure if it is the same thing Clarissa called “sensibility” on the other thread, I obviously did not dig deeper than they wanted to share.
                I also have very different experience in terms of social consequences for misgendering people or what not. I was once introducing a non-binary speaker and used pronoun “he”, corrected with “sorry, they” and moved on with the program, unfazed. I was told later that this was the best thing I could do, according to them; the reasonable ones do not really need everyone to walk on eggshells around them and turn every instance of using a wrong pronoun into the show or exaggerated public repentance / dumping ashes on misgenderer’s head.

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              2. You are in a very different discipline, though. 90% of my students are female. And this is a heavily female thing. Except in the performing arts where it’s 50/50 gender-wise and affects at least two thirds of all students.

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              3. Maybe.
                but a) those two whom I know the best are biologically women and that was one of them who transmitted to me the information that the non-binary guest appreciated how I handled the situation.
                b) I did say “he” in front of I do not know how many people of various genders, at the start of a public talk. Somebody in the public could, in theory, make a show of being offended on guest’s behalf… but nobody did.
                c) unrelated – I estimate only ~10-15% at our woke university use preferred pronouns in e-mail signatures and Zoom names.

                So excess drama or lack of it seems a discipline thing, not gender thing
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              4. At mine, the entirety of support staff and the administration use pronouns. Among professors, only the fanatics and the under-thirties do.

                It’s not the “non-binary” people I’m afraid of. It’s the fanatics. I’ve seen them hound an older colleague into a heart attack and another into early retirement.

                What I feel towards the mutilated, confused young people I see every day is compassion. They will never be able to undo the damage. They are physically disfigured and it’s a terrible thing.

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              5. “a creepy modern aesthetic among the younger set”

                A couple of years ago I kind of realized a lot of the non-binary thing is not about gender or sexuality at al but rather it’s an attempt to create a sub-culture.
                Problem is in the west those are usually formed around musical genres which are usually created and maintained by young men who have by and large abandoned music as a way to seem cool to girls for video games in solitude….

                “cute vs. evil”

                It’s not easy for Americans to be on the receiving end of popular culture from a foreign land so it’s no wonder it’s been distorted outside of its natural environment (and interacted with other existing things in the culture in horrible ways).
                A lot of that ‘cute vs evil’ aesthetic is Japanese and it functions one way in Japan and quite another outside of Japan.
                The weirdest stuff is essentially a toxic combination of Japanese ‘cute’ culture and American glorification of victimhood….

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              6. re: nonbinary: in the sample I can see… because I know their families, it seems pretty likely in both cases that on some level they are doing it because their mothers want it. In one case, mom gets social status points out of it, and in the other case, mom’s getting revenge on divorced dad by encouraging it. In both cases the “nonbinary” teens still only date members of the actually opposite sex, despite declaring themselves various flavors of “pan” and “bi” and “queer” and whatever else is fashionable.

                I’m not sure what the motives would be for kids who are no longer in the care of their parents.

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              7. I’m living with a man who hasn’t spoken to his mother in years, yet on regular occasions he decides to self-destruct to follow her wishes.

                This conditioning doesn’t go away once you move out or even move across the ocean.

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              8. “This conditioning doesn’t go away once you move out or even move across the ocean.”

                That would explain quite a lot. I moved out right after I turned 18, and got as far away as possible for over a decade. It took all those years, plus getting married and having kids, before I could even visit my mother and not get sucked into just automatically doing whatever she wanted, and then hating her for suckering me into it. Our relationship is a lot better now that I’ve figured that out, and I can say no. I just figured it was an autistic thing and normal people don’t have this problem?

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  2. The system is set up so that the the candidates from the two parties never threaten the establishment. Trump scared them a bit, since he was a total unknown, but Trump did nothing of substance to really change things; putting an end to illegal immigration might have been that one thing, but he failed miserably even at the minimum. Like you’ve said many times, he did not build the wall.

    Haley is the safe choice, so now they’re pumping all the money on her; but really they are all mostly the same. Bernie Sanders might have been the one person that would have brought something new, but he never got close.

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  3. Who does these polls? This seems like MSM shilling for Haley because she’s their candidate, not like anything that actually exists. Like, does the general public have any idea who Haley is? That’s not a name that ever comes up in any conversation.

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    2. Exactly. Has anybody even met a single Haley supporter? Forget supporter. Has anybody met any people who are aware that she exists? This is a no-name person nationally. She has no name recognition, no charisma. She’s clumsy, has an unpleasant voice. There’s literally nothing here.

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      1. aye. Like I said. Never heard her name in a regular conversation, IRL or online. No haters. No supporters. Nothing. There is no way that in any real, actual poll, she comes out ahead of Trump, just on name recognition alone.

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    3. In addition to everything else people have replied to this with (all true) this is a poll specifically of NH, an early primary state that Haley has been campaigning in heavily. I believe it also has a lot of the kind of “moderate Republicans” who’d vote for Haley, including their governor, who endorsed her.

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  5. “Nikki Haley”

    My new meme for her… she’s White Kamala. She (somehow) has gotten the backing of powerful donors and they’re going to effin’ cram her down America’s throat whether America likes it or not and her actual performance in debates or on voting day has nothing to do with it.

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