I unfollowed immediately. Why be a conservative if petty whorishness of this kind is to be lionized? Making everybody privy to her Valentine’s freakout over being discarded like a used Kleenex is vulgar and we should all be better than this.

As I say in the book I’m writing, neoliberalism is a moral catastrophe. Even saying the word “morality” makes one sound fuddy-duddy and stupid. And children are the first casualties.

41 responses to “The Elon Baby Drama”

  1. ed Avatar
    ed

    I really think Trump is going to come to regret letting Elon get so close to him.

    The man is a total neoliberal slimebag in disguise. But he’s against DEI and illegal immigration, so he’s one of “us” right?

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    1. Clarissa Avatar

      I started answering but it got too long so I wrote a separate post. Thank you, Ed, you gave me a lead-in to think through something important.

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  2. cliff arroyo Avatar

    “petty whorishness of this kind is to be lionized?”

    Cherry on the cake is including her agent’s info at the bottom…. peak…. kurewskość…

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  3. el Avatar
    el

    Read today about this study (full text is here):

    Higher social class predicts increased unethical behavior

    Seven studies using experimental and naturalistic methods reveal that upper-class individuals behave more unethically than lower-class individuals. In studies 1 and 2, upper-class individuals were more likely to break the law while driving, relative to lower-class individuals. In follow-up laboratory studies, upper-class individuals were more likely to exhibit unethical decision-making tendencies (study 3), take valued goods from others (study 4), lie in a negotiation (study 5), cheat to increase their chances of winning a prize (study 6), and endorse unethical behavior at work (study 7) than were lower-class individuals. Mediator and moderator data demonstrated that upper-class individuals’ unethical tendencies are accounted for, in part, by their more favorable attitudes toward greed.

    Why are upper-class individuals more prone to unethical behavior, from violating traffic codes to taking public goods to lying? This finding is likely to be a multiply determined effect involving both structural and psychological factors. Upper-class individuals’ relative independence from others and increased privacy in their professions may provide fewer structural constraints and decreased perceptions of risk associated with committing unethical acts . The availability of resources to deal with the downstream costs of unethical behavior may increase the likelihood of such acts among the upper class.

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  4. el Avatar
    el

    I would not call giving birth to a child ‘whorishness.’ However, I am surprised a young (~31 years old), pretty, professionally successful woman would choose to become a single mother in practice, even if money – both her own and Musk’s – isn’t a problem.

    I would’ve understood it, had she been 40 like me, or 36 at least. Musk already has 12 (!) other children, surely she cannot seriously believe he’ll become her life partner husband.

    I would worry many other men wouldn’t want to date her, when she already has a child, but who knows … I guess, among very rich people, children aren’t such an obstacle to dating as they’re to middle class people, who don’t have nearly unlimited resources to support them all and cannot hire 10 nannies, if needed.

    Musk looks partly insane to me, with 13 kids and probably more coming, but again even if “the rich weep too” (remember this telenovela?) , they live in a different reality from me and you.

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    1. cliff arroyo Avatar

      “Musk looks partly insane to me”

      He’s doped up most of the time. During the inauguration he looked high as a kite.

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      1. oldcowboy3 Avatar
        oldcowboy3

        cliff arroyo

        Hmmm, I suspect that he is completely focussed, basically on an adrenal high.

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    2. cliff arroyo Avatar

      “would choose to become a single mother in practice”

      Strip away the window dressing and she fvkkt a guy for a big payout. I don’t think she cares so much about the child (except as the key to the payout).

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      1. Clarissa Avatar

        It’s pretty standard prostitutionn

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    3.  Avatar
      Anonymous

      I think she does already have another child.

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      1. Clarissa Avatar

        Well, it’s great that she’s solving the fertility crisis. That’s commendable. But she’s also contributing to the fatherlessness crisis, which is less good.

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    Anonymous

    Congratulations to Miss Ashley St Clair. She had a child from a man who is worth 400 billion. Even if she only gets 1,000th of the father’s fortune, that is still 400 million. If I were Elon Musk, I would not even look at a woman except if I were accompanied by a squad of 200 pound surly matrons.

    Horzabky

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    1. Clarissa Avatar

      But why? This money is nothing to him. Why constrain one’s freedom for something so paltry as money, of which he already has more than an army of avid consumers could ever hope to spend?

      There’s an important insight here and I invite you to pursue it.

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      1. oldcowboy3 Avatar
        oldcowboy3

        Clarissa

        LOL, does your man not ever get lost in his thinking? Enjoy that difference, millions of such moments is where Western civilization came from ;-D

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        1. Clarissa Avatar

          As many young attractive women, I did receive in my youth offers to have children for rich men. I’m not a whore, so I was insulted and refused. I’ve never met a woman who wouldn’t be insulted. But I know they exist.

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      2. el Avatar
        el

        \ Why constrain one’s freedom for something so paltry as money, of which he already has more

        I do not understand. Who constrains one’s freedom? She or Musk?

        I do not see how Musk does that.

        \ As many young attractive women, I did receive in my youth offers to have children for rich men. 

        I never heard of such a thing even.

        Does it mean being in a relationship as co-parents? Because o/w they could hire a surrogate and have a child w/o those young women.

        At least, it is better than men wanting to take zero responsibility for their kids, which I’ve seen in RL.

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        1. cliff arroyo Avatar

          “Who constrains one’s freedom? She or Musk?”

          I think the idea is that she realized that no marriage was in the cards and it would be easier for him to throw money at her and forget about it all.

          When you’re the richest man in the world.. the upkeep of one kurwa and her bastard is… nothing.

          Mommy will take care of her little meal-ticket and he may or may not make an occasional appearance (my bet… no).

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          1. el Avatar
            el

            “one kurwa and her bastard”

            It’s kind of misogynistic to call her and even her child names, when Musk is at least as responsible for this situation as she is.

            If he doesn’t want even to visit, as you describe, why create a child? He may be a drug user, but somebody this successful cannot be a brain-dead fool, unable to see 1 step ahead whether he wants a child from her or not.

            If he wanted only sexual relations w/o children, surely he could’ve had that only.

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            1. cliff arroyo Avatar

              “It’s kind of misogynistic to call her and even her child names”

              How is it inaccurate?

              Maybe she’s a wonderful person but why screw Musk, a proven horrible, disengaged partner and father? Terrible judgement or calculated decision to board a money train?

              She’ll be fine materially and she doesn’t need approval from you or me just because she’s a woman.

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              1. Clarissa Avatar

                Exactly, these are people who live in the lap of luxury and freely choose to make us into spectators of their drama. To hell with them.

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              2. Clarissa Avatar

                I just saw online that she was an actual prostitute before this whole fiasco. That’s very unsurprising. What is quite shocking is that she sincerely believed that she won’t be a walking incubator after all the other women were.

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            2. Clarissa Avatar

              Musk said many times that he wants to have as many children as possible. He believes that his genes are so valuable that he’s doing a service for humanity by spreading them. This was clearly an open-eyed intentional project for him.

              But it wasn’t for the woman. It’s clear from the context that she thought she actually meant something to Musk and there was going to be a relationship here and not just a payout

              They both are immoral and despicable in this, and my heart goes out to Musk baby number 14. Or whatever its number is.

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          2. Clarissa Avatar

            This reminded me of the horrible images we’ve seen lately of a genderfluid celebrity bottle-feeding a dead-eyed surrogate baby. I quit Twitter for two days because my feed was filled with that video, and it was affecting my health to see this horror.

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        2. Clarissa Avatar

          Obviously, nobody, including Musk, wants to actually raise those children. The goal is to feel that you’ve procreated, proven something. It’s definitely not to change diapers or play the same game 60 times in a row for 5 hours.

          Please don’t take the statement about the same game for 5 hours as a discouragement. It’s totally worth it.

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  6. el Avatar
    el

    Btw, today “Teenager dead and four injured in Austria knife attack … The suspect is a 23-year-old Syrian asylum seeker and has been detained …  randomly attacked passers-by with a knife.”

    Merely two days ago “An Afghan asylum seeker has been arrested over a suspected terror attack after a car was driven into a crowd of people in Munich, leaving at least 28 injured.”

    I once thought (non-Jews in) EU, unlike Israel, didn’t have a conflict with the Arab world, so would remain free of Arab terrorism.

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    1. Clarissa Avatar

      God, another terror attack? Such horror.

      And all on the eve of me going to Germany. I’m already very inclined to spend the trip alone in my room, and this is making that option more appealing.

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      1. cliff arroyo Avatar

        “another terror attack? Such horror”

        Two things…. here is an interesting take on the motivations behind these attacks (nb. I have no background to say how accurate it is).

        https://x.com/DanBurmawy/status/1890059479431139660

        Second, Andrew Hammel ran the numbers a few days ago after the Munich attack and such attacks are just going to increase. I assume they will become a weekly if not daily occurrence with no likely change in German policy….

        https://x.com/AndrewHammel1/status/1890027272029028659

        Thanks, Angela!!!!!!! How that dreadful woman (who apparently begged European countries to not react to the russian invasion of Ukraine in 2014 so Germany’s supply of russian gas would not be interrupted) can show her face in public is a mystery. Most destructive leader in Europe in the last 70 or so years.

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        1. Clarissa Avatar

          A very interesting link, thank you. This is important insight.

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  7. Demotrash Avatar
    Demotrash

    St. Clair has never struck me as a conservative in the traditional sense, honestly.

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  8. Stringer Bell Avatar
    Stringer Bell

    Your “trad” and “conservative” influencer, ladies and gentleman. The amount of grifters on these scene is insane. She can have as many babies with musk as she wants, I don’t care, but can the right wing media for once in their lives stop thinking with their penises and actually vet the people they give their platform to?

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    1. Clarissa Avatar

      Yes, that’s exactly what I’m talking about. This smut was inflicted on us for no reason.

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  9. Stringer Bell Avatar
    Stringer Bell

    And yeah, Musk seems to be a transhumanist. The question is, why is he opposed to trans people then?

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    1. cliff arroyo Avatar

      “Musk seems to be a transhumanist”

      Apparently llmost all his…. offspring were conceived via IVF or surrogacy…. no world on the last sprog

      Richest man in the world, drugged up all the time, can’t reproduce normally?

      How is this supposed to be aspirational?

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      1. stille Avatar
        stille

        Won’t reproduce normally. This allows him to sex-select his offspring. In the Grand Gene Spreading Experiment, having more sons gets him the chance of more grandsons than if he had half sons half daughters. Even with IVF and surrogates, a woman being the genetic parent of 14 children would require physiologically distressing hormonal treatment/surgical procedures. A dude can just wank in a tube.

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        1. cliff arroyo Avatar

          “just wank in a tube”

          Well…. thank you for that mental image! Not to dip my mind’s eye in chlorox….

          Some comments were suggesting further genetic modifications were also possible that way but the whole thing is too disturbing to think about.

          I’ll also note…. that in any animal breeding program (cows, horses, dogs etc)…. there is a lot of…. culling (weeding out those that don’t fit the goal of the program). The more I think about it the more I’m afraid that something similar would be going on with Musk.

          How often are the Musk spawn announced ahead of time and how often do they just show up?

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          1. Clarissa Avatar

            Anybody who even minimally cares about how his kids will turn out would rather eat his own penis than let Grimes take over their upbringing.

            Sorry for contributing to ugly images. 😁😁

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        2. Clarissa Avatar

          The whole point of parenthood is the process of being around your child and building a relationship with her. Its the daily grind that’s the reward. Sadly, Elon is incapable of understanding this and the chorus of facile whores who stamp out his offspring is neither.

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          1. Clarissa Avatar

            It’s worse than we thought:

            https://x.com/MdBreathe/status/1891171963889992102?t=h9CiPqOqOaF4pSx1E12mXw&s=19

            These are despicable people who can’t even fuck in a normal way. Everything with them is abnormal.

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  10. el Avatar
    el

    // It’s worse than we thought:

    https://x.com/MdBreathe/status/1891171963889992102?t=h9CiPqOqOaF4pSx1E12mXw&s=19

    The link doesn’t open. What does it say?

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  11. el Avatar
    el

    I googled to find new info and this looks pretty close to child abuse:

    // “Almost every relationship in my life would be bastardized and disingenuous because I couldn’t tell them what was going on. My son has never taken a walk outside — in five months,” she told the Post. “I have never been able to take my baby for a walk. I was terrified that someone would see I had a baby and it would get out,” she continued.

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    1. cliff arroyo Avatar

      “pretty close to child abuse”

      Not pretty close…. more like a bullseye.

      Poor kid, doesn’t have much a chance with a fame-hungry grasping mother and genetically modified to do god knows what…

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