OK, but years of planning leaves us with two possible scenarios. One is that the famed Mossad is the most incompetent organization in human history. Another is that Mossad is not incompetent and the massacre was allowed to proceed for political reasons. There is no third scenario. The level of incompetence needed to miss a large-scale operation that was years in the making is truly stunning. It’s possible that such incompetence exists. But two years later, it’s time to start looking into it and at the very least removing everybody who failed at their job to such an extraordinary degree.
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Considering there was very briefly a leak about a year or so in that the Israeli High Command and Netenyahu knew about the attack months ahead as did the US military intelligence division. Yea I would say it was quite likely a green flag event.
There was also very briefly posts from Israeli border guard forces in the region in question who had spoken out that they had been ordered to stand down as it kicked off. This was shortly after the event took place.
All these vanished into the ether almost immediately after they were posted and the thought of this being a green flag was never brought up as a possibility in the media.
Lastly given how often it seems that mysteriously events of such nature to and from Israel seem to take place whenever Netenyahu appears to be about to be kicked out of government, well a less trusting soul might wonder.
I’ve mentioned this before, but it bears repeating. There is no way in hell Israel didn’t have fast reaction forces near the borders in case of a ground attack or a large scale terrorist attack. Yet it was how long till any combat troops arrived? 6 Hours to 12 hours before troops arrived depending upon location. I mean for goodness sake they are surrounded by people who hate them and their government keeps making new enemies. If they didn’t have fast reaction troops near the border then their military leadership should be fired for dereliction of duty.
And once more for the peanut gallery. Statement 1 : I might dislike Netenyahu and his government, but the other side in the Israel government is worse. Statement 2 : I might think their government is wicked but that does not mean I automatically hate the Jews as a whole. Statement 3 : Obligatory statement confirming I am not suicidal, nor do drugs, nor take part in any sports that regularly lead to death. Statement 4 : The fact that I have to state any of these today shows how ludicrous things have gotten even if this last statement is partially tongue in cheek.
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All this, yes. I’m supportive of Israel and have a deep dislike of “Palestinians.” But there are big questions here, and the attempts to silence them by screaming “anti-Semitism” are counterproductive.
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They both have an official culture of dishonesty. Wish we didn’t have to deal with either.
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“I might dislike Netenyahu and his government, but the other side in the Israel government is worse.”
Didn’t you just argue that they deliberately let October 7 happen? What could be worse than that?
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Muslims.
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Fuentes made a great point the other day. Remember how we’ve always been told that palestinians rejected every israeli peace offer throughout history (camp david, oslo, etc.)? Well, now we’re literally watching this process in real time: Palestinians agree to a deal, and then israel changes the terms five minutes before it’s supposed to be signed. The american president is left begging the israelis to stop this nonsense. While israel continues killing people.
In a few years you’ll have bari weiss-controlled CBS making documentaries about how the palestinians rejected peace in october 2025.
Seen this movie before.
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You are mixing apples and cabbages here, comparing between past attempts of truly solving the Middle-East conflict and the current temporary deal with the devil. As long as Hamas remains in power in Gaza, next 7/10 is just a question of time. We want Hamas to stop ruling Gaza, while they’re obviously planning to continue. Which ‘peace’ with Hamas are you talking about?
Btw, regarding this post, no intelligence service in the world can stop all terror attacks. See 9/11 in America. No need for conspiracy theories. Around 50 years ago Israel was surprised by a nation state and its army, which is harder to miss than Hamas’s plans of attack. We the Israelis must ask people in power hard questions, but thinking Netanyahu let this happen on purpose is … unreal. I have been living in Israel nearly all my life, I feel my country in the way others here naturally cannot, and I say with 100% that such theories are false, just as saying America organized itself 9/11 is false.
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Nobody I’ve ever met in the US has denied that the authorities were utterly incompetent and messed up 9/11 intelligence reports big time.
If you are saying this is arrant incompetence, I can believe that. But there’s got to be an explanation.
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What I read from our experts on the Muslim world about Hamas ‘agreeing.’
Hamas, guided by Qatar, gave Trump a positive answer and agreed to free all hostages if Israel stops the war. At the same time, it did not agree to disarm or to let anyone other than Palestinians control the Gaza Strip.
Trump: Hamas wants peace, we must immediately stop the bombing of Gaza and give them a chance to return all the hostages.
Israel: The bombings have not stopped yet.
As for Trump – let him get the Nobel Prize, let Hamas return the hostages, and then, if it does not disarm (and of course it cannot lay down its arms), or does not return all the hostages (and it will try to do that), continue the war until the destruction of this jihadist filth.
There are really no guarantees this time that Israel will stop the war against Hamas until Hamas has met all the terms of the deal.
…and here we go:
Mousa Abu Marzouk (one of the Hamas leaders) told Al Jazeera:
“Each point must be considered separately. For example, the first point says that Gaza should be free of terror. We agree that Gaza should be free of terror, but the question is – is Hamas considered a terrorist movement or not? From our point of view, Hamas is a national liberation movement, not a terrorist organization.”He also said last night:
“Seventy-two hours to find and free all prisoners of war (that’s how Palestinians call the Israeli hostages they have held for two years) – it’s simply unrealistic. We must understand that this will take time.”It’s interesting to hear what Trump says about this.
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Clarissa, you can read about the Yom Kippur war, when Israel was surprised too by several armies of Arab states around us. Then, like today, nobody in Israel let it happen on purpose. And thinking we can always prevent attacks underestimates our enemies, their determination and abilities. They cannot ‘free Palestine’ by terror, but kill people they surely can.
The war started on 6 October 1973, when the Arab coalition launched a surprise attack across their respective frontiers during the Jewish holy day of Yom Kippur…
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You are not seriously comparing today with half a century ago when an entire surveillance apparatus came into existence since then with technology that nobody could have begun to imagine in 1973.
Let’s now discuss Napoleonic wars and why today’s warfare doesn’t look the same.
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But you compared the assassination of JFK to that of Charlie Kirk. Or at least Americans’ reactions to them.
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