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UK Abolishes Jury Trials

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In the meantime, Great Britain is abolishing jury trials for a variety of offences:

In an attempt to tackle a record backlog of 80,000 cases, Mr Lammy will on Tuesday … set out the Government’s … plans to scrap the right to jury trial for defendants facing offences likely to result in prison sentences of under five years.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/11/30/cutting-jury-trials-will-undermine-free-speech/

This means that the people arrested for speech acts will most likely be imprisoned. Please observe how this is formulated as a result of austerity. There’s no money for jury trials, there’s a large backlog, this is a necessary measure, etc. Civil rights are abolished under the pretext of money shortages. Meaning that money shortages are very convenient.

21 responses to “UK Abolishes Jury Trials”

  1. oldcowboy3 Avatar
    oldcowboy3

    Danger, Will Robinson, Danger!

    Western warnings by both the early Greeks and Germanic tribes were worried about government overreach…and yes, Britain, but also Canada, and even the USA are increasingly guilty of attempting to curb control speech.

    Islamification is the current target, but also include attempts to protect all Identity Politics, basically by curtailing legal questioning. Canada gutted the court system by disallowing pertinent legal questions to rape charges, and there have been recent efforts to consider legally penalize any residential school claims. And some American colleges became Kangaroo courts regarding campus safety — clearly and deliberately ignored the civil rights of those charged. 

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    Anonymous

    This is horrifying.

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    Anonymous

    UK is completely lost. They’re not getting back to anything sane without some fairly extreme violence at this point.

    Did you see this one?

    https://x.com/Artemisfornow/status/1994659422254080474

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      Anonymous

      TL:DR: UK man dragged through the court system because he went on vacation in Florida, where he fired a shotgun completely legally, and posted a pic of himself doing so on linkedin.

      -ethyl

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      1. oldcowboy3 Avatar
        oldcowboy3

        Yeah, you simply cannot relate. One of my wife’s favourite girlfriend was English but immigrated in her early twenties, fascinated by the wild West, but no idea about fishing or hunting, or for that matter, country dancing. Then she went back to see her Mom for Christmas maybe 25 years ago. Joy came back laughing, they can’t believe how we live. They all sing about partridges in a pear tree and not one of them has ever even tasted a partridge ;-D

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          oldcowboy3

          Sorry, I didn’t make that clear, Joy’s family in England, had likely never eaten a partrdge. Her husband and her had a rented home quarter surrounded by bush/trees intended to provide some protection from prairie winds — and providing very tasty Hungarian partridges ;-D

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      2. Clarissa Avatar
        Clarissa

        Yes, they tortured this poor guy with searches, warrants and arrests. After they thoroughly spoiled his life, they dismissed the charges which were utterly unprovable. But he got his punishment. It’s so convenient.

        Now with AI this gets even better. You can arrest anybody based on a manufactured photo and destroy their life until it’s proven that the photo is fake.

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        1. oldcowboy3 Avatar
          oldcowboy3

          Yeah, it’s hard to believe Britain, the source of the Magna Carta, and outspoken Locke et al discussions just quietly accepted the current horseshit — it may be simply a long fuse ;-D

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  4. Stringer Bell Avatar
    Stringer Bell

    There’s no good solution to this. “Jury of your peers” is an outdated idea when half of of your peers were born in some other country or have historical racial hangups only intensifying as time goes on thanks to our media and activist class. If people around you don’t share your values, can they really be called peers?

    In the US it takes a unanimous decision for a murder conviction. I can totally foresee one member refusing to convict obvious cases. All this fraud in minnesota that’s making the news these days, when it comes time for the trial, guess who’ll be in the jury.

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    1. Stringer Bell Avatar
      Stringer Bell

      You’re fucked either way. Either at the mercy of a jury with star wars names, or judges with star wars names.

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      1. oldcowboy3 Avatar
        oldcowboy3

        Stringer Bell

        You forget jury nullification, hampered somewhat in Canada’s appointed legal arseholes, fortunately still legal in the USA — basically the jury ignores evidence and finds the person charged innocent because the jury disagrees with the law ;-D

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    2. Clarissa Avatar
      Clarissa

      Well, but we can always hope that Somalis of the opposing tribe are on the jury. Time to learn the intricacies of tribal warfare in Somalia because it’s important to recruit from the right tribe.

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    Anonymous

    Another one out of UK that could not happen in US. Yet.

    https://www.noticer.news/norbert-gyurcsik-jailed-right-wing-music-uk/

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    1. Clarissa Avatar
      Clarissa

      I have not yet seen a convincing explanation of what happened to the UK and why it decided to dismantle itself. I’m waiting for somebody to come up with an answer but it usually must come from inside the culture itself, and there doesn’t seem to be any energy left even for that in Britain.

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  6. oldcowboy3 Avatar
    oldcowboy3

    Clarissa

    “I have not yet seen a convincing explanation of what happened to the UK and why it decided to dismantle itself“

    Are you familiar with the vigilante action of the men in How Green Was My Valley and particularly the actions of Mr. Gruffyd, the pastor?

    “To hand her murderer over to the police will give him an extra day to live, which your daughter was denied,” said Mr. Gruffydd. “He shall be fed and housed until the day he meets the rope, but your daughter will lie beneath the dead wreaths long before then, and the rope gives a good quick and clean, without blood, without pain, without torture of the soul and body. Is justice done, then, with a rope about the neck of a man, and his victim, a child of seven years, torn and twisted, long in her grave?”

    “No,” said the crowd.

    “Shall we burn him?” asked Mr. Gruffydd. “But if we do, he will die a death of honour, for martyrs died in the flame. What then?”

    “Give him to me,” said Cynlais Pritchard.

    “Is that your common decision?” Mr. Gruffydd asked the crowd.

    “Yes,” they all shouted back.

    “Take him,” said Mr. Gruffydd, “and as we do with him, so shall we do with the next, if next there is. And remember, if you bury him, however deep, you pollute innocent ground. Burden not the earth with such.”

    Maybe a parable, perhaps about current misplaced compassion, excess feminization?

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    1. Clarissa Avatar
      Clarissa

      Yes, but then, why is this feminization hitting the Brits so particularly hard?

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      1. cliff arroyo Avatar
        cliff arroyo

        “why is this feminization hitting the Brits so particularly hard?”

        Jonestown.

        British political class = Jim Jones

        Law enforcement = forcing people to drink the kool-aid.

        If I had to make a guess, I think that sub-consciously the British political establishment has decided to sacrifice the local indigenous population to atone for the ‘sins’ of colonialism.

        Every new arrival by boat (and every native Brit killed or raped) makes the political class feel just a little bit better.

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        1. Clarissa Avatar
          Clarissa

          There’s definitely something to it. When I read that book about Fred and Rose West, I could feel the absolute hatred and contempt that the author had for working class Brits. I couldn’t understand it but it explains the war of the British elites against the rest of the population.

          I’m telling you, even I felt like “let’s replace these sodding bastards with a bunch of nice, sweet Somalis” when I read it.

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            Anonymous

            Every comment thread about that gal with the knife in scotland, when I read through it contained multiple “I’m British and you Americans just don’t understand that these girls aren’t people, just feral animals, basically” comments.

            That was enlightening. And not about the girls.

            -ethyl

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            1. Clarissa Avatar
              Clarissa

              Oh wow, I didn’t know. I can’t even imagine. I felt such compassion for that girl. But yes, it explains a lot.

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      2. oldcowboy3 Avatar
        oldcowboy3

        Hey, I am a mere scientist, not a sociologist, but you might suspect altered social structure. There would not have been thousands of gang rapes if the likes of Cynlais Pritchard and his sons still existed. Remember the young working class Scottish girl trying to protect her sister with her knife and hatchet, I rather doubt there was any father presence what so ever. And cliff arroyo is also correct, the middle class fears, despises, and hates the working class ;-D

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