Ain’t democracy great? No jury trials, people arrested for saying mean words in private conversations, parties banned, political candidates imprisoned, deeply unpopular policies forcibly inflicted on citizens. Truly, a system that should be preserved at all costs.
Yup, its especially funny how the AFD despite having won enough seats to be the 2nd largest group in the government and was blocked from actually being part of the German government earlier this year. The firewall I believe they called it. That and how mysteriously something like 7 of their leaders all died in the same district when it looked they were about to win, and I believe something like 36 of their leaders have died this year. Although to be fair one or two might have actually been from old age or illness.
You can also toss in Romania where the wrong side won the national elections and the election was tossed out as invalid. And France where La Pen was barred from running for 5 years almost as soon as the polls showed that she would very likely win by the numbers.
Actually thinking about it, its almost like how North Korea is actually called The Democratic People’s Republic of North Korea. I mean these people seem to change the definition of words, terms, laws, etc. to whatever they want in any given day, so it makes sense that these are “republics.” After all a name is just ink on paper at the end of the day.
For that matter I don’t know if anyone is aware, but the EU is or has recently passed two … laws? The first is that the EU and presumably the local governments are now allowed to read your emails, texts, listen in to your phone calls, etc. The second is that to access the internet you will soon be required to present identification including facial id. Add that to the cameras everywhere, which have spread to even small towns in the US now, and well when you say government surveillance, what would you require that is not yet on the table.
Its no wonder none of these globalists governments want any nationalist parties to get in, if the dam breaks anywhere, a lot of these traitors are likely to be hung at this point.
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They’re still trying. One of the ways they’re planning to do this is by requiring age verification for accessing porn sites. It’s a perfect strategy. Any opposition can easily be countered by tarring critics as defenders of porn.
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“can also toss in Romania where the wrong side won the national elections”
Won the first round of elections (the Romanian system is not first past the post but 50% plus one vote to win, most often this means two rounds of voting). The result was thrown out due to veriafiable campaign irregularities and probable russian interference. Not a great result but probably the right action at the time.
And almost all ‘nationalist’ figures in Europe are not real nationalists but russian puppets. Consider Hungary’s Orban. A few years ago he “joked” that he did not recognize Romanian sovereignty in Transylvania and has consistently positioned himself as a champion of Hungarian minorities in neighboring countries.
And in 2025 he openly endorsed the russian-puppet candidate in Romania whose career was based on anti-Hungarian rhetoric (and actions like desecrating Hungarian cemeteries). Why? The parsimonious analysis is that russia told him to. Some nationalist.
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In Switzerland we have popular right-wing parties, but if some politician praises Hitler or denies the holocaust, he will obviously be shunned or even expelled from the party. The AfD does not have the same standards, they want to be popular with actual neo-nazis. Do you really think that is acceptable given Germanys history? Do you think saying that Jews deserve the holocaust, or the holocaust didn’t happen, is just an acceptable opinion like any other? Is there really no limit to free speech, for example do you think this radio station in Ruanda telling people that their neighbour are cockroaches and need to be exterminated needs to be protected by free speech laws? I have the impression that you and your commenters think that Germany wants to forbid people from stating normal right wing opinions, like saying that they want less immigration etc., but that is not true. The right wing of the CDU makes statements like that all the time, this includes chancellor Merz who recently said that there are too many unemployed migrants making people feel unsafe in their cities. The reason that a ban of the AfD is discussed is because some proponents are actively anti-democratic, and there is a law against anti-democratic parties in Germany for historical reasons. I know Americans do not have the same history and that is why free speech is so important to them. Your democracy has not yet been destroyed by democratically elected politicians, maybe if that ever happens (I hope not) you will start to see this issue differently too.
I’m not saying a ban of the AfD is the right solution, but it is clear that they need to be monitored closely because some of those people are total extremists who want to destroy democracy and I understand the other parties do not want a coalition with them if they do not clean up their ranks. And the hope might be that the possibility of a ban will make the AfD distance themselves from their most extreme members and turn them into a normal right wing party.
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” right wing of the CDU makes statements like that all the time, this includes chancellor Merz”
Talk is cheap, he hasn’t been able to deliver on promises to reduce welfare migration (since that’s where most of them end up forever) because his “coalition” partners won’t let him.
The rise of the AfD represents not a rise in fascio-racist-nonsense politics but a massive failure (often refusal) of the German political establishment to actuall address AND ACT ON citizen concerns.
That is the failure of democracy, not voters looking for politicians who might actually do something that voters want.
The word democracy has suffered from the same erosion of meaning as the words “socialism, racism, hatred, rights, fascism, Nazism, and anti-Semitism.” Democracy has come to mean “good.” If it’s good, it’s democracy. If it’s democracy, it’s good. This is circular thinking that is completely empty of content.
Actual democracy has great qualities. It also has piss-poor qualities. As absolutely everything else, it has trade-offs. There are millions of people who listen to Candace Owens and love her. There are millions of people who listen to the army of left-wing Candaces. In a democracy, all these people get to vote. If they are stupid, we all get saddled with the results of their stupidity. If you don’t like that, you don’t like democracy.
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That’s exactly my point. The definition of democracy is “a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.” I copy-pasted this. If large parts of the population don’t get representation, that’s not democracy. I’m not saying it as a value judgment but as a statement of fact based simply on the definition of democracy. What is democracy if not this? Elections? Putin’s Russia has regular elections. Is it a democracy? The USSR had elections. Soviet elections had a nearly 100% turnout. Elections, a constitution. The USSR had all that throughout its existence. Was the USSR a democracy? Obviously not. This means that the fact of holding elections doesn’t suffice to make it a democratic system. Like the fact of having a nose doesn’t suffice to make you a dog.
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I would have written the same comment verbatim 15 years ago. I think I actually did write it. About German history justifying stricter speech laws, about Ruanda. I very sincerely believed what you do now.
And then do you know what happened? My own opinions, which until that moment were completely normal and held by everybody, were declared equal to Radio Mille Collines. That’s when I realized that it’s not about specific opinions. It’s about habituating people to the mechanism of depriving them of representation. It always starts with some utterly despicable Alex Jones. And then always leads to a woman who was brutalized in an assault referring to her attacker as “a faggot” in a private conversation and getting arrested. That’s always the trajectory.
What is democracy? It’s political representation of citizens. If a large portion of citizens, millions of people, are denied political representation of their beliefs, then how is it a democracy? It’s not. We can argue that democracy is flawed and it’s ok to substitute it with something else. But we can’t argue that this is democracy. Because if everything is democracy, then nothing is.
That dude in Romania who was removed from the election, I find him despicable. I hate him. He’s a Russian pawn. AfD is financed by Russia. I hate them, too. But denying people political representation is not democracy. Let’s be honest about what’s happening. Many people are dumb and should be denied representation. That is the current situation in Europe. This can be a good thing or a bad thing. But it can’t possibly be democracy.
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” Your democracy has not yet been destroyed by democratically elected politicians…”
Quit your nonsense, some of those “commenters” know a fair amount of history. The National Socialists never won an absolute electoral victory, instead they achieved an absolute single party government through political maneuvering plus the systematic dismantling of democratic institutions. Not completely dissimilar to leaders in Germany and the unelected EU arseholes currently ignoring the present situation where the public wants immigration not only strongly controlled, but unwelcome “refugees”sent back for bloody obvious reasons.
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