Far Away Lands

Actually, Tel Aviv is about a thousand miles farther away from Washington DC than Kyiv. I don’t remember the distance between DC and Tehran but it’s definitely farther away than even Tel Aviv.

This isn’t about knowledge of geography. Obviously, it’s fine not to know the mileage. But Kyiv lies farther away than Tel Aviv in Trump’s imagination. He perceives Middle Eastern problems as something close and European ones as being far away. You can’t successfully put an end to mass migration from a world that you inhabit imaginatively. We don’t have leadership that perceives America as Western and originating in Europe.

39 responses to “Far Away Lands”

  1. Stringer Bell Avatar
    Stringer Bell

    Prophetic words.

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    1. Clarissa Avatar

      Some third-worlder with weird flags cheering for Americans to die. What else is new.

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      1. Stringer Bell Avatar
        Stringer Bell

        You don’t have to like him. I don’t. But he was right.

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  2. Stringer Bell Avatar
    Stringer Bell

    He perceives Middle Eastern problems as something close and European ones as being far away. 

    You still cannot bring yourself to say the word lol. It’s not “middle eastern problems” it’s israel.

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  3. Stringer Bell Avatar
    Stringer Bell

    Let’s vote harder next time.

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  4. Stringer Bell Avatar
    Stringer Bell

    “Middle east”

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    1. Clarissa Avatar

      It reminds me of when Ukrainian patriots quote Putin after spending 20 years explaining what a terrible liar he is.

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  5. Stringer Bell Avatar
    Stringer Bell

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    1. Clarissa Avatar

      https://x.com/i/status/2032531056436322750

      Now they are recognizing it. After Glen Greenwald’s fans whelped from here to the Moon that the war was a fake. Of course, Greenwald lost zero fans over it. And I lost two very good readers whose brain was hijacked by Greenwald and who never found the courage to accept that the phony bastard duped them.

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      1. el Avatar
        el

        Could you clarify please what is meant by “that the war was a fake” and how is lack of satellite images of Iran connected to it?

        As for US not selling higher definition images of Israel than companies in other states, am glad to know that. Those images would be used by Iran and other enemies to destroy our infrastructure, murder more people and so on.

        Of course, SB is sad that more people are not being murdered in pursuit of profit. At least, that’s how I understood his outrage.

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        1. Clarissa Avatar

          Glenn Greenwald claimed that there was no Russian invasion of Ukraine on February 24, 2022. He and his followers kept claiming that all the way through March, making bizarre arguments to “disprove” the mountains of footage of the invasion. Then they dropped that topic because even for utter lunatics it became unsustainable. But they never apologized or explained what led them to make such an enormous mistake and what they were doing to avoid similar mistakes in the future. People accept their sources blatantly lying to them. I will never understand this.

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  6. ShadowsCollide Avatar

    That last line in the post is very true, a common meta-narrative amongst Americans is that our ancestors fled Europe to escape poverty and oppression to become a new people known as Americans. In this narrative, Europe is either a dark continent of oppression and poverty or a fun place to go on vacation but not someplace Americans ought to care about.

    It doesn’t help either that many who think this way are people who don’t have a strong ethnic background, their ancestors likely came from the British Isles sometime in the 1700s and their ancestry is mostly some kind of British. These folks are more likely to see themselves as just Americans since their people have been here for so long, in contrast to later generations of immigrants who may still identify with their ancestors’ country and culture. With the former, Europeans are just another group of white people, almost like Americans with funny clothes and accents but not people we ought to care about since they’re not Americans

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    1. Peter Avatar
      Peter

      I live near Boston, Lincs.

      It is clear from the historical record that the Pilgrim Fathers fled England to be able to religiously persecute.

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  7. Stringer Bell Avatar
    Stringer Bell

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    1. Clarissa Avatar

      It would be useful to start distinguishing between Americans and paper Americans. Otherwise, these numbers are not very informative.

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      1. ShadowsCollide Avatar

        I agree, one can be a naturalized immigrant and be very proud of being an American, or the opposite. Most of my family are naturalized Americans and are proud Americans, I’ve been lucky to grow up with such adults.

        Conversely, I’ve met so-called paper Americans who have American citizenship but who still act as though they still live back in their home countries. These folks barely speak English, don’t associate with normie Americans and live in a cultural bubble of their native culture. These declining support for Israel might come from the latter group, many normie Americans are positive towards Israel. Many people from other countries either think Jews and Israel are evil or are at best indifferent, if the poll had results from regular Americans, it would tell a different story

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      2. Stringer Bell Avatar
        Stringer Bell

        If you don’t support this you are a “paperwork american.” Real americans would love this.

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        1. Clarissa Avatar

          How do you feel about Washington Post?

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          1. Stringer Bell Avatar
            Stringer Bell

            How do you feel about child murder? Nevermind, I already know.

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            1. Clarissa Avatar

              Remember that report about US border patrols whipping migrants? It must have been completely true, right?

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              1. Stringer Bell Avatar
                Stringer Bell

                Cope.

                I understand it’s hard to accept the behavior of your co-ethnics. If it helps you to believe that the whole world must be lying about israeli atrocities, then go ahead.

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              2. Clarissa Avatar

                How do you know that this soldier wasn’t Sephardic or Mizrahi?

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          2. Stringer Bell Avatar
            Stringer Bell

            Believe IDF, except when ex-IDF soldiers tell you they kill children for fun.

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  8. Stringer Bell Avatar
    Stringer Bell

    The term “thirdworldist” gaining currency in rw discourse is not an accident.

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      1. Stringer Bell Avatar
        Stringer Bell

        I guess he finally listened to his conscience. An alien concept for some people.

        The first comment to the tweet you posted says it all: “Changing your mind about policy positions means someone “got to” you? Does that also apply to Trump, who ran as “the Peace President”?”

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        1. Clarissa Avatar

          I’m sure he listened to something.

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          1. Clarissa Avatar

            As for Trump, I saw his tweets from 2002 when he is in favor of bombing Iran. So it’s not like there’s been a dramatic change in that position.

            I have no reason to be happy about Trump based on his most recent spate of kissing Putin’s ass but he’s been very consistent on both Russia and Iran. Which is not necessarily good.

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          2. Stringer Bell Avatar
            Stringer Bell

            What we’re learning about the antisemitism industry from the Joe Kent resignation is a U.S. president can say, we did it for Israel, a senator in the opposing party can agree, yes it looks like he did it for Israel, and then when someone resigns on the basis that this war doesn’t serve our national interest and say he doesn’t like that we did it for Israel, that’s still antisemitism. So truth is irrelevant to the accusation.

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            1. Clarissa Avatar

              Say, say, say. Is it 2020 that we are so obsessed with who says what? Kent made a decision to resign as is his prerogative. What’s the big deal? That somebody posted a mean tweet about him? He’ll survive the tweet.

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              1. Stringer Bell Avatar
                Stringer Bell

                What tweet? What are you talking about?

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  9. Stringer Bell Avatar
    Stringer Bell

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    1. Clarissa Avatar

      Yes, Somalians and Moroccans, those notorious Jew lovers.

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      1. Stringer Bell Avatar
        Stringer Bell

        Do you have any idea what you’re replying to? Do you know who Hirsi Ali is?

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  10. PaulS Avatar
    PaulS

    Obviously Israel is closer to the US because it is where the Bible is from.

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    1. Clarissa Avatar

      True. However, Ukraine is a Christian very white nation. But for Trump it’s like it’s located in another galaxy. He can’t understand it and refuses to try. People want their own nation-state. They want borders. They don’t want infinity Muslims and Central Asians which is what Putin is organizing for Russia. What’s so hard to understand?

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        1. PaulS Avatar
          PaulS

          We have lots of Muslims dating back to Dutch colonies in Malaysia, but the government’s policies on the Middle East haven’t changed their votes.
          https://www.sajr.co.za/how-the-muslim-community-betrayed-the-anc/amp/

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