Here is a quote from an excellent novel The Interpretation of Murder by Jed Rubenfeld. It’s set in the early 20th-century New York, where the three fathers of psychoanalysis, Sigmund Freud, Carl Jung, and Sándor Ferenczi, come for a visit. At a high-society dinner party, one of the attendees confronts Freud regarding the ultimate results of the sexual liberation that Freud’s ideas seem to seek:

“What sort of world would it be, Dr. Freud, if your views became general? I can almost picture it. The lower orders come to scorn ‘civilized morality.’ Gratification becomes god. All join in rejecting discipline and self-denial, without which life has no dignity. The mob will run riot; why should they not? And this mob, what will they want when the rules of civilization are lifted? Do you think they will want only sex? They will want new rules. They will want to obey some new madman. They will want blood—your blood, probably, Dr. Freud, if history is any guide. They will want to prove themselves superior, as the lowest always do. And they will kill to prove it. I picture bloodletting, great bloodletting, on a scale never seen before. You would pipe away civilized morality—the only thing that keeps man’s brutality in check. What do you offer in exchange, Dr. Freud? What will you put in its place?”

This novel was recommended by Chirbes, so of course it ultimately leads to the issue of Nazism, even though it is set in 1909. Leaving that aside, the query posed in this quote is important.

Psychoanalysis has long stepped away from sexual liberation as its focus. But the question remains of what happens when the corset of outwardly imposed rules is removed from people who are utterly incapable of creating and obeying rules for themselves. See my previous post for one example of what happens.

Once the self is liberated from any constraint, the result is really, really ugly.

6 responses to “When the Corset Is Removed”

  1. mitchellporter Avatar
    mitchellporter

    I believe I have seen it said, that the goal of psychoanalysis was not utter liberation of the id, but rather relief of psychological pressure through self-understanding. The point was to make self-control more conscious, not to eliminate repression entirely – the latter is more a 1960s view perhaps. (I am reminded of Lacanian psychoanalysis having no category that’s just ‘normal’ – even normal people are neurotic, according to Lacan, in order to deal with society.)

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    1. Clarissa Avatar

      Yes, we cannot live in civilization without developing some sort of mechanisms to offset its demands. It’s also true that, ideally, one will find productive ways of exercising self-control, but it’s the smallest minority in any society that is capable of that. The rest are watching Candace Owens. Talk to them of self-control, and they will not begin to understand what the concept entails. And these are precisely the ones whom we have liberated from every possible constraint. Every Walmart in the deepest Midwest and Appalachia features transed-out, blue-haired children of trailer park dwellers.

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      1. oldcowboy3 Avatar
        oldcowboy3

        LOL, Kid, you certainly know your literature, but you do seem to have a rather poor grip on history. The open war over religion in the West does not go back to 1909, the resultant undermining of self-control goes back at least to radical forces during the French Revolution. And leave the working class alone, then and now, they tend to live too close to the bone to simply throw away their faith. So maybe try the 1790’s, the Jacobins, or if you prefer that early mindless free love bimbo, Wollstonecroft. And if we must have a blue haired monster, let’s maybe try today’s make-work sheboss ;-D

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        Anonymous

        You and Vodolazkin have achieved some kind of weird synchronicity in my timeline. I read this thread, and then I went and read in the Aviator:

        Because of my father, I thought about the nature of historical calamities – revolutions, wars, and the like. Their primary horror is not in the shooting. And not even in famine. It is that the basest of human fervors are liberated. What is in a person that was previously suppressed by laws comes into the open. Because for many people only external laws exist. And they have no internal laws.”

        -ethyl

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        1. Clarissa Avatar

          God works in mysterious ways.

          I honestly think that on the personal level, this is the most important issue of our times. People who don’t have a very severe internal law are going to be screwed in a multitude of ways.

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    Anonymous

    “Where has God gone?” he cried. “I shall tell you. We have killed him – you and I. We are his murderers. But how have we done this? How were we able to drink up the sea? Who gave us the sponge to wipe away the entire horizon? What did we do when we unchained the earth from its sun? Whither is it moving now? Whither are we moving now? Away from all suns? Are we not perpetually falling? Backward, sideward, forward, in all directions? Is there any up or down left? Are we not straying as through an infinite nothing? Do we not feel the breath of empty space? Has it not become colder? Is it not more and more night coming on all the time? Must not lanterns be lit in the morning? Do we not hear anything yet of the noise of the gravediggers who are burying God? Do we not smell anything yet of God’s decomposition? Gods too decompose. God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we, murderers of all murderers, console ourselves? That which was the holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet possessed has bled to death under our knives. Who will wipe this blood off us? With what water could we purify ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we need to invent?”

    Parable of the Madman, Nietzsche 

    Walnut

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