I have a story that perfectly illustrates the extent of the problem. As you know, I did a Ph.D. in Spanish literature at Yale University. The first two years of the PhD are dedicated to taking courses, not only in your own discipline but also a couple of electives in whatever field that you find interesting.

One of the electives I chose was in history. It turned out to be one of the best courses I have ever taken in my life. It was about the kind of Europe that was destroyed and the kind of Europe that was created by WWI. I can still remember the entire reading list from the course, even though it’s very far from my area of interest and anything that I do in my research.

All of the students in the course, except me and one other person, were pursuing a Ph.D. in history. These were people who willingly chose history, not because it’s likely to bring big money, but apparently because they’re interested in history. They were Ph.D. students in History at Yale.

On the first day of class, the professor said, “OK, let’s get the basics out of the way before we start talking about the material in the course. When did World War I begin? When did it end? Who fought, on which side and why?”

And guess what? Nobody except me and one other person who was in English could answer any of these questions. Nobody knew the exact years. Several students advanced the idea that Germany and Russia were fighting on the same side. Nobody had ever heard the names of Archduke Ferdinand and Gavrilo Princip. The professor was aghast. I finally rattled out all of the information. But yes, I was shocked. That people who are getting PhDs at Yale would not know something like this was bizarre.

This was in 2004. So it’s not DEI or wokeness or anything like it that was causing this. This was not one of those obligatory courses that people who are trying to get a degree in engineering or nursing are forced to take. It was an elective for future historians. So is it really surprising that an elementary school teacher in Illinois manages to teach about the Holocaust without ever mentioning the words Holocaust or Germans?

I can’t say that I knew about World War I because anybody specifically taught me about it. I knew because I read a lot, and you end up coming across this information if you’re widely read. One student in that course explained his ignorance by saying that his area of specialization was WWII and not WWI. As if you could remotely understand anything about WWII without knowing what happened in WWI.

11 responses to “Higher Education”

  1. donbenham Avatar
    donbenham

    Even twenty years ago or whatever, we were worse off than I imagined…..

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    1. Clarissa Avatar

      We’re now living with the consequences of things that were already broken back then.

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      1. oldcowboy3 Avatar
        oldcowboy3

        Yeah, history doesn’t just happen, it is caused, and sometimes from great heights. Furthermore, sometimes the consequences are not understood for many decades, sometimes for generations. We can read the horrendous numbers of the losses in WW1, but do we realize that the male losses were disportionately volunteers, and so quite possibly the best genetically? Ponder the current political situations in Britain, France, and Germany ;-D

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    Anonymous

    “I have never let my schooling interfere with my education.”  Mark Twain

    Walnut

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  3. bluebird of bitterness Avatar

    That is pretty shocking, I have to admit. And I’m not easily shocked.

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    1. cliff arroyo Avatar

      “pretty shocking”

      Only if you think of Yale as an educational institution whose mission is to create scholars. Clarissa pointed out that she had to work out how to be a scholar on her own (maybe with father’s help) since nothing in class was helping her achieve that goal.

      Yale (presumably Harvard too now) have two products neither of which is really about furthering human knowledge.

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      1. bluebird of bitterness Avatar

        I probably should have said “shocked but not surprised.”

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    Anonymous

    It doesn’t really surprise me to be honest. My first degree was in history, and well things ended up going in an entirely different direction considering I am now in finance.

    Still, part of the reason I originally went into history was I wanted to teach history as even though the schools I went to which were the best in the area it was clear that history was being … perhaps not deliberately not taught, but most definitely ignored.

    Middle-school and high school we had coaches teaching history, and while they were decent teachers, it was more of a geography lesson and “memorize these dates and names” more than anything else. What was worse is that for my county these were probably the best history courses available. Well no that is not entirely correct, there was a AP history course that was being taught that was better. So naturally it closed down the year I reached the school year in which it was taught.

    College was more of the same. Those professors who dared called themselves history professors at best just spat out a list of names and dates. Here is what will be on the test, memorize these. They were nice people, but should not have been teaching history.

    I had five actual professors who deserved the title throughout my entire time in college for that history degree. One taught on the crusades for two semesters and then his contract was not renewed. The one I did my senior thesis with I never got to take any of his classes as his wife had cancer. He supposedly was one of the better ones. No idea. I think I got to speak to him for less than an hour all total for the entire project. He was also the head of the history department which should tell you something.

    The third was a fairly good professor, but as I found out halfway through the second semester I had with him. He considered himself to be a literature professor. Why he was in history I still have no idea. Looking back his courses were 100% about literature.

    The fourth was technically a history professor, but he was more into architecture. A course that was not actually offered. Oh he knew his stuff, and over the last twenty years he had been the driving force to restore the governors mansion. Unfortunately building designs from the 1600 and 1700s were not exactly helpful.

    The last one started out as a philosopher who then went into law, and finally ended up as a history professor. He was hands down the best professor I have ever had. I learned a ton from him.

    Unfortunately what I am getting at is this. The vast majority of history professors simply aren’t. They are not there to teach history, they are there to either coach sports or collect a paycheck. At the college, out of those five. With two exceptions I didn’t get more than two semesters out of any of them. The history department was constantly hemorrhaging professors. They simply couldn’t keep any who were worth keeping.

    Heck one of the two who stayed was the literature professor who was in the wrong field. Still no idea how that worked out. By the time I graduated he was the last of the five still there and was actually in the running to be elected to run the history department.

    Ignoring all the good ones who’s fields were not exactly history per say. I had two professors in the twenty something years of schooling at that point who actually taught history. Not names and dates, but why this happened. What sparked this. Why did this event influence X, etc.

    So no it does not surprise me how many students in your class had no idea of anything about WWI or who was in it. Frankly I would be surprised if any of them could even name the actual name of the war. That being The Great War.

    • – W

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  5. Demotrash Avatar
    Demotrash

    This shocks me again because I learned all this stuff in detail in survey courses intended for fulfilling basic undergrad history requirements circa 2010. I could easily see a student not retaining this stuff, but that’s no excuse if you’re a history PhD.

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  6. el Avatar
    el

    \\ It’s a glorified daycare, like every school. … I’ve been teaching college students… zero traces of anything that anybody could reasonably call an education.

    I do not know. I did learn a lot at school, both in Ukraine and in Israel.

    In both countries, I studied most of the time in special classes with the best students at that school, which helped.

    My relatives didn’t give mini-lectures, only helped to learn well what I was taught at school, when I needed help.

    May be, my standards are lower than yours. It also seems the schools you described were / are much worse than in my experience.

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    1. Clarissa Avatar

      My friend, you choose to read my blog in tiny snippets of free time you get. You would learn a lot anywhere because that’s who you are. But almost nobody is like that.

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