Is College Bad for Girls?

~ Clarissa

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1905, you say? With color, I wouldn’t have been surprised to hear that this is from last week.

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  1. “Midnight Hours of Who Knows What”
    Well I lived in a dorm for three years, and I’d say it was mainly midnight hours of playing video games and making jell-o.

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  4. According to Scott Walker’s new budget which was released last week all those bad girls are just getting what they deserve.

    Section 25 of the budget:

    “Delete the requirement that any person employed at an institution who witnesses a sexual assault on campus or receives a report from a student enrolled in the institution that the student has been sexually assaulted report the assault to the dean of students. Delete the requirement that each institution report annually to the Department of Justice (DOJ) statistics on sexual assaults and on sexual assaults committed by acquaintances of the victims that occurred on the campus of that institution in the previous years, and that DOJ include those statistics in appropriate crime reports.”

    http://jezebel.com/scott-walker-wants-colleges-to-stop-reporting-sexual-as-1688375293

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      1. I tend to support it as well. Colleges have no business doing the work of the police for them. If a crime was committed then that’s what the police are for.

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        1. The historical reason for this state of affairs is that on many U. S. campuses, until maybe a century ago, police were forbidden to come onto campuses unless explicitly invited on a particular occasion by the college or university president. This led to such criminal enforcement being the responsibility of the institution of higher learning. Whether universities still have this responsibility is legally vague, still.

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          1. “The historical reason for this state of affairs is that on many U. S. campuses, until maybe a century ago, police were forbidden to come onto campuses unless explicitly invited on a particular occasion by the college or university president. This led to such criminal enforcement being the responsibility of the institution of higher learning.”

            • Ah! Now I get it! Thank you, David, I had no idea.

            Well, now all that’s left is to let this outdated and senseless practice go and move on.

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    2. I wish colleges would stop trying to suppress actual rape and sexual harrassment investigations. All of a sudden we are supposed to oppose sexual assault (whatever that is) and record consent to sex, make sure to get affirmative consent and so on, but I have not heard of any changes to policies on suppressing / denying rape and sexual harrassment. Many university police seem to be charged with making sure the victim is blamed and does not pursue the issue, does not go to city police, and so on. In this context what is sexual assault reporting anything but a diversionary technique or smoke screen… Enlighten me.

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      1. “In this context what is sexual assault reporting anything but a diversionary technique or smoke screen”

        • Exactly. I also see ANY attempt to investigate or prosecute rape by anybody on campus as an attempt to suppress the crime. This is a very serious crime. It should go to police, to prosecutors, not to deans and provosts.

        If I observe any crime happening, on campus or elsewhere, I’m dialing 911. On what planet would it be a normal thing for me to do to file a report with the dean instead of calling the police??

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  6. So basically nobody really sees the point of the Clery Act anymore?
    Scott Walker’s deletions notwithstanding, the Clery Act is federal law and supersedes state law.

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    1. Nobody is disputing that all crime should be immediately reported to police. The issue at question is whether crime should be reported to some inept deanling instead of being reported to police.

      This is a really strange situation that is being set up: colleges are mandated to investigate and prosecute rape. They obviously don’t manage to do it effectively because they are not qualified. So there are long, weepy articles bashing colleges for not managing to prosecute rape. Then everybody forgets about it for a couple of months. And then the bizarre cycle continues. This obviously doesn’t help victims. What is the point of this bizarre game – that I don’t think happens anywhere else in the world – is an absolute mystery. But it’s like some sort of a ritual that just has to happen every so often.

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      1. Well another part of the issue is that colleges with big football programs would/do sometimes try to cover up campus rape cases in order to protect their athletes. UW Madison in Wisconsin has a hugely successful football team and I wonder if there is something in the pike that Walker is trying to cover up. Overall, repealing these sorts of laws could make it easier for cover ups to occur. That being said, I agree that the laws are a bit bizarre.

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        1. “Overall, repealing these sorts of laws could make it easier for cover ups to occur. ”

          • If everybody just dials 911 and doesn’t bring the deanlets into it at all, how does that facilitate coverups?

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          1. Well my school (like most schools) has mandatory reporting laws. In other words, if we learn of a crime (not just rape), we must report it or risk losing our jobs. I think Walker’s bill is trying repeal mandatory reporting laws?

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            1. “Well my school (like most schools) has mandatory reporting laws. In other words, if we learn of a crime (not just rape), we must report it or risk losing our jobs.”

              • Report to whom?

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              1. If someone is in immediate danger, I’m required to call 911. If the threat is not immediate, I’m required to report it to the administration who are in turn required to report it to the authorities.

                To me, having some centralization in this process makes sense. If I were a university president, I would want to know what crime (if any) is happening on the campus I’m supposed to be running.

                Still, I don’t object if the administration is removed from the crime reporting process. But I don’t think that mandatory reporting laws should be repealed entirely. I don’t have a huge opinion either way on Walker’s specific decision here. But I will say that I have yet to see Walker make a good decision on anything. So I do think there is perhaps something more troubling afoot here that is not immediately apparent.

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