. . . And the channel that will transmit the debate is stupid. And nobody is offering any pre-debate analysis or trying to hype up the event. Even MSNBC is doing something entirely unrelated. I feel cruelly put upon and discriminated against in my political beliefs.

In any case, let’s make the best of the debate anyway. Leave comments and show your support!

19:32 – Hillary’s outfit is a little too grandmotherly. It’s the first unsuccessful outfit of her campaign.

19:35 – God, O’Malley is boring. I fall asleep whenever I hear him.

19:38 – Bernie’s passion never fails and never diminishes. It’s admirable. But “Muslim troops on the ground”? Like in a religious war? That’s a very unfortunate turn of phrase.

19:45 – OK, I kind of hate O’Malley. He sounds shrill and unbalanced.

19:48 – Bernie keeps beating the dead horse of his opposition to the war in Iraq.

19:56 – gun control again, how boring. But wait, Bernie puts down O’Malley. That’s so cool! Go for it, Bernie!

20:00 – Hillary is passionate and strong. This is great.

20:03 – O’Malley winks at the moderator and looks creepy. He thinks that freedom of worship and freedom of religion are two different things.

20:08 – OK, it’s time for the debaters to start disagreeing in something. It’s not a debate if everyone agrees. Thing’s starting to get creepy.

20:12 – Bernie: a coalition including Russia? Has he gone daft in his dotage?

20:17 – unlike Bernie, Hillary knows the specifics of the region and gives a detailed plan of action. Bernie can only come up with platitudes that are always the same and show no familiarity with the specifics.

20:20 – Hillary says it won’t come to having to shoot down a Russian plane. I’m laughing uproariously. She’s either lying or delusional when she says there’s a hope Russians will go after ISIS instead of supporting Assad.

20:23 – Bernie decided to channel stupid Rand Paul. How sad.

20:24 – Hillary is absolutely right that staying out of Lybia would have made matters worse. Bernie is being very superficial on the issue. He simply doesn’t know the region. He repeats the same things, in the same tone of voice.

20:26 – O’Malley just suggested that Sanders is old. Very classy.

20:28 – Hillary is SO MUCH BETTER and more knowledgeable on foreign policy than her opponents. It’s like me talking to two kindergartners about Spanish literature.

20:39 – Is O’Malley seriously touting Maryland’s post-recession economy? That’s the joke of the day.

20:43 – Hillary is so damn good today! I’m loving her.

20:50 – Bernie is so repetitive. I keep thinking of old dogs and new tricks. “Wall Street is a threat to the economy”? Is his intended audience the least educated among voters?

56 responses to “Democratic Debate #3: Finally!”

  1. Evelina Anville Avatar
    Evelina Anville

    I’m watching pre-date analysis right now! George Stephanopolis, Cokie Roberts, and few other people who I don’t recognize on sight. But ABC is showing some pre-debate discussion. 🙂

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    1. Clarissa Avatar

      Yes, ABC did start doing a pre-debate activity after some weird religious show. I feel somewhat better now.

      I just want the world to share my excitement about this debate!

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    2. Dreidel Avatar
      Dreidel

      The panelists appear frequently on the ABC Sunday morning talk show “This Week,” which leans liberal but is relatively balanced for a political talk show.

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      1. Clarissa Avatar

        I never watch this channel at all. I barely remembered it existed.

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  2. Dreidel Avatar
    Dreidel

    “Even MSNBC is doing something entirely unrelated.”

    NBC and CBS are rival broadcast networks. There’s no way NBC would refer viewers to a rival network, even if MSNBC’s ratings weren’t already in the toilet.

    At least maybe CBS won’t waste time hiring someone to sing the “National Anthem” before the questions start…

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    1. Evelina Anville Avatar
      Evelina Anville

      The debate is on ABC– not CBS. 🙂

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    2. Clarissa Avatar

      I also thought it was CBS and freaked out when it wasn’t there.

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    3. Dreidel Avatar
      Dreidel

      Uh, obviously, “ABC”…same logic applies.

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  3. Dreidel Avatar
    Dreidel

    Amazing! Sanders actually made a statement on foreign policy!

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    1. Clarissa Avatar

      “Muslim troops”, though? It sounds horrible. Troops can’t be “Muslim” or “Protestant” or “Buddhist.”

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  4. Evelina Anville Avatar
    Evelina Anville

    Yes. It’s interesting. Sanders seems the youngest of all the candidates even though he’s the oldest by far. Also, I wish they would stop talking about this dumb campaign breech. So boring and petty.

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    1. Clarissa Avatar

      But it gives everybody an opportunity to be kind and gracious to each other. So heart warming.

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      1. Clarissa Avatar

        O’Malley is such a smug opportunist, Bleh.

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        1. Dreidel Avatar
          Dreidel

          O’Malley’s the only one on stage young enough to be an effective president for the next eight years. If Hillary’s elected, she’ll turn 70 her first year on office.

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          1. Clarissa Avatar

            Seventy today is yesterday’s fifty. And O’Malley is a pompous ass who reminds me of Justin Trudeau, my new nemesis.

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            1. Evelina Anville Avatar
              Evelina Anville

              I happen to think that O’Malley is electable on a national level. But he is being really obnoxious. I think this new thing that the candidates are doing (more pronounced with the Republicans) to refuse to abide by the debate rules makes the candidates seem weak and petulant– not strong or tough.

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              1. Clarissa Avatar

                I agree! O’Malley’s campaign must be doing badly because he’s much more obnoxious than in previous debates.

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              2. Dreidel Avatar
                Dreidel

                O’Malley is in last place by far — so he doesn’t have anything to lose by going on the attack.

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              3. Clarissa Avatar

                I thought he was hoping for the veep slot.

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  5. Evelina Anville Avatar
    Evelina Anville

    At this point, (8:00 AM), Clinton seems the most presidential and is the most eloquent.

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    1. Evelina Anville Avatar
      Evelina Anville

      8:00 PM– not AM. 🙂

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    2. Clarissa Avatar

      Absolutely. She is doing fantastic. I can’t wait to see her wipe the floor with the Republican nominee.

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      1. Evelina Anville Avatar
        Evelina Anville

        I think both Clinton and Sanders would struggle against a Rubio campaign. Sadly, I think O’Malley would do the best against Rubio. But against Bush or Cruz, Clinton would be best. Actually I think Sanders would be great against Cruz also.

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        1. Clarissa Avatar

          Rubio is about to be eaten alive by his own party for his history on immigration.

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  6. Dreidel Avatar
    Dreidel

    “Has he gone daft in his dotage?”

    Seventy is the new fifty, remember? 🙂

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    1. Clarissa Avatar

      That’s why I’m do shocked! He’s not nearly old enough to rant like this.

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  7. Dreidel Avatar
    Dreidel

    It’s ridiculous for Hillary to talk about a “no-fly zone” now that Russia is controlling Syrian airspace. The ONLY “bad guys” in the area with aircraft besides Russia are the Syrian Air Force. Does Hillary really believe that Putin will cooperate in allowing us to shoot down Syrian aircraft?

    A no-fly zone would have been a good idea two years ago, before Obama backed down after telling Secretary of Defense Hagel and the U.S. military to prepare to bomb Syria — but it’s too late now.

    Hillary’s right that Assad should go — but with Putin protecting most of Syria, that’s not going to happen anytime soon.

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    1. Clarissa Avatar

      American politicians from both parties demonstrate such naiveté and such a misunderstanding of what Putin is doing that it’s scary. Of course, a no-fly zone is impossible and of course getting Russia to fight ISIS is a pipe dream.

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      1. Clarissa Avatar

        THEY STARTED WITHOUT HILLARY??? SERIOUSLY?

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        1. Evelina Anville Avatar
          Evelina Anville

          Incredible. But whatever. She commanded attention when she got in. Side note: I think O’Malley is doing well on this question (around 8:40 PM).

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          1. Clarissa Avatar

            Did you hear Hillary’s brilliant response on the question of “Should business still love you?” She’s so charming today!

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            1. Evelina Anville Avatar
              Evelina Anville

              Yes. I think she’s being incredibly charming. But I’ve always found her charming– she’s the only first lady I’ve ever liked– so I’m a bad judge. 🙂

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              1. Clarissa Avatar

                I wasn’t here when she was first lady so I never saw her in that capacity.

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  8. Evelina Anville Avatar
    Evelina Anville

    “I wasn’t here when she was first lady so I never saw her in that capacity.”

    She’s the only first lady who wasn’t an embarrassing “lady of the house.” She was smart and tough and was one of the first women that I felt I could look up to. (I was 17 when the Clintons were elected.)

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    1. Dreidel Avatar
      Dreidel

      “I wasn’t here when she was first lady so I never saw her in that capacity.”

      Google “Hillarycare” to find out what you missed.

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  9. Evelina Anville Avatar
    Evelina Anville

    I loved Sanders’s comment about rising college costs–8:58 PM or so.

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  10. Dreidel Avatar
    Dreidel

    “She’s so charming today!”

    Beauty is definitely in the eye of the beholder!

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    1. Clarissa Avatar

      When there are people who can look at Trump and not wince, yes, definitely.

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      1. Dreidel Avatar
        Dreidel

        As far as scary looks go, Trump and Hillary could be separated at birth.

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        1. Evelina Anville Avatar
          Evelina Anville

          What? You think they resemble each other? In a literal way? Or figuratively? I just don’t think Trump and Clinton seem anything like each other.

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          1. Clarissa Avatar

            Dreidel is irked by how formidable an opponent Hillary will be to any Republican nominee. 🙂

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            1. Dreidel Avatar
              Dreidel

              I can live with a President Hillary, if I have to.

              As I’ve already said, at least she’s a reliable warmonger who won’t crash Wall Street.

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              1. Clarissa Avatar

                You’ll so have to. 🙂 🙂

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          2. Dreidel Avatar
            Dreidel

            “You think they resemble each other? In a literal way? Or figuratively?”

            Figuratively — they’re both weather-beaten, aging, power-mad psychopaths who’ll say anything to get elected.

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        2. Clarissa Avatar

          Trump’s the fellow who keeps having to buy trashy wives from hungry Eastern European countries. Let’s not forget about that exercise in patheticness.

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          1. Dreidel Avatar
            Dreidel

            At least Trump isn’t riding on his spouse’s back to the White House.

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            1. Clarissa Avatar

              Yes, Bill had to be pushed and carried all the way to the White House by Hillary.

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              1. Dreidel Avatar
                Dreidel

                “Yes, Bill had to be pushed and carried all the way to the White House by Hillary.”

                You won’t get any argument from me about that. Hillary always had all the brains — and the looks — in that duo. Remember her sexy hippie headband?

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  11. Stringer Bell Avatar
    Stringer Bell

    Let us not forget the seething hatred coservatives have for women and minorities who don’t know their place. The moment she said as first lady she wasn’t here to bake cookies in the white house it was game over.

    You’d have to be a complete dunce to equate trump with Clinton on anything.

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  12. Dreidel Avatar
    Dreidel

    Well, we all wondered when Stringer Boy would show up with his juvenile dime-store insults to lower the overall I.Q. level of the discussion. 🙂

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  13. Stringer Bell Avatar
    Stringer Bell

    Dude, being partisan is one thing but seriously believing the shit you said about Clinton and trump really marks you as stupid.

    She’s so much better and smarter in every conceivable way to that drooling idiot. If you can’t see that, despite your political differences with her, you’re just stupid. I’m sorry that i have to be the one to break that to you.

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    1. Dreidel Avatar
      Dreidel

      “I’m sorry that i have to be the one to break that to you.”

      Hey, “dude,” that line is getting old, even for a one-trick pony like you.

      Didn’t you just try the same line yesterday — with equal lack of cleverness or success — on commenter @el when he objected to your rapid hatred of Israel?

      (The comments are moving on now, to a new post entitled “Democratic Debate: Conclusions.” You want to tag along, be my guest.)

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    2. Clarissa Avatar

      If I were a Republican, I’d feel consumed with impotent rage, too, right now. 🙂

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      1. Dreidel Avatar
        Dreidel

        “I’d feel consumed with impotent rage, too, right now. :-)”

        Well, Clarissa, I won’t argue about the ability to get it up at my age. But “rage” — ah, you misread me as badly as that idiot Stinger What’s-His-Name?

        I just find all of this political Sturm und Drang intensely amusing. I’ve already been through it, during all the election cycles over the decades. The farce keeps coming back, generation after generation — and then the world turns, and it all happens again, and life goes on.

        So tell me what you see at this particular repition that’s worth raging about.

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        1. Clarissa Avatar

          I’m kidding, I’m kidding. Let’s not get too serious here. It’s Saturday night, I can’t be as somber as I’d be on a Tuesday.

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          1. Dreidel Avatar
            Dreidel

            “I can’t be as somber as I’d be on a Tuesday.”

            Well, don’t worry about it. The last time I was really serious was the last Tuesday in 1997, when I retired from the Air Force and moved to Arizona to let other people worry about running the world. 🙂

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