Don’t Pander to Freaks!

Among some of [Bernie’s] supporters there will be lingering frustration and a belief that the party’s leaders conspired to deprive them of their choice. This isn’t an accurate or fair assessment, but Mrs. Clinton must address it.

No, she must not. Remember birthers? Were they persuaded by overwhelming evidence that Obama was not born in Kenya? No, they were not. It’s the same with these freaks. They will cling to their deranged belief that Hillary conspired with Wasserman Schultz against Bernie because it feeds their woman-hating conviction about the conniving nature of “sneaky” and “lying” women. Noticing them in any way or dignifying them with as much as a nod is a mistake.

These freaks stink to high skies and normal people should pretend they don’t exist, just like one does when somebody emits a loud fart in company.

24 thoughts on “Don’t Pander to Freaks!

  1. I’m very grateful that this primary is finally over, but I suspect the next week or so will be extra annoying as the rageaholics reach for increasingly strained excuses to keep their outrage high going for a little bit longer. I wonder what these folks do to keep themselves amused when there’s not a primary contest to fume over.

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  2. I agree that she shouldn’t respond directly at all. Unfortunately, I do think though that the Clinton camp needs to “control the narrative” here before it runs away from her. So she just needs to emphasize in various ways that she won the popular vote.

    It makes me so mad. Clinton has won by EVERY conceivable measure: delegates, popular vote, superdelegates. And the only places Sanders won decisively are caucuses–which by their nature suppress voter turnout. Clinton was the more popular choice.

    At this point, Sanders needs to be graceful, congratulate Clinton on a job well done, and then work with her to defeat Trump and to ensure that the Democrats maintain a progressive agenda. I began this election really liking Sanders. I want to keep on liking him. He needs to stop. I don’t want to believe that he is a rank misogynist. But it’s starting to seem that he can’t stand to let a woman best him.

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  3. “I don’t want to believe that he is a rank misogynist. But it’s starting to seem that he can’t stand to let a woman best him.”

    Not you, evelina.

    Should we then conclude that Clinton couldn’t stand a black man best him? There’s tons more evidence for this position, by the way. She explicitly said she was the candidate for the white working class, circulated pictures of Obama in Somali garb, etc.

    https://twitter.com/crushingbort/status/740565566566608896

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    1. I think it’s more like Bernie has been working towards it – in what seemed to be a hopelessly quixotic manner – for decades. And then all of a sudden it turns out that being a socialist does not mean you have to be totally marginalized within American politics. All of a sudden his message resonates, and not just with anybody but with young people. This must be an enormously powerful experience for him. Just imagine what it must be to have crowds of hopeful young faces stare at you with interest and enthusiasm all over the country. I can understand not being able to let that go. Let’s be honest, who would be able to let it go easily? And at 75 years of age, too?

      This Jill Stein person, though, is failing to impress me as somebody very smart or conscious of anything but herself. Maybe Trump should have her as his running mate. They seem equally self-involved and oblivious.

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      1. “I think it’s more like Bernie has been working towards it – in what seemed to be a hopelessly quixotic manner – for decades. And then all of a sudden it turns out that being a socialist does not mean you have to be totally marginalized within American politics. All of a sudden his message resonates, and not just with anybody but with young people.”

        I agree with your take on Sanders here. I just hope he understands that his time in this particular race has ended. I really do like Sanders. And, once upon a time, I liked Nader. I just really hope that Sanders doesn’t become a Nader. I don’t think he will. But now is the time to start winding down the campaign and ramping up the rhetoric against Trump and the Republicans.

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        1. “But now is the time to start winding down the campaign and ramping up the rhetoric against Trump and the Republicans.”

          • Absolutely. I think Bernie can be devastating against Trump. Especially since Trump now seems to think that he will be able to siphon off some Bernie supporters.

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    2. Well I said “starting to.” I’m withholding final judgement.

      I think Clinton conceded in early June in 2008 (I think the NYT said she conceded on June 8th?.) She made a gracious speech, gave a fantastic barn burner of a speech at the Democratic Convention, and campaigned hard for Obama. If Sanders acts like 20008 Clinton, all will be forgiven and I’ll return to liking him. If Sanders acts like a Nader, he will become my official enemy. 😉

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        1. “She made a gracious speech”

          We must have different definitions of the word ‘gracious’. Refusing to even acknowledge your opponent after you’ve lost is not gracious.

          I think Bernie’s a decent person and will definitely give a great speech at the convention. If he doesn’t, I’d be disappointed. But, so far, he’s behaved so much more admirably than Clinton did in 2008. She was the original birther-in-chief, let us not forget.

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          1. The only thing that matters right now is to defeat Trump. The guy is out-of-this world horrible. He is a danger of planetary proportions.

            I have to hold endless conversations with people from other countries who keep asking me how it is even possible that Trump has such high level of support. And I don’t even know what to say. :-(((

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      1. “She made a gracious speech, gave a fantastic barn burner of a speech at the Democratic Convention, and campaigned hard for Obama.”

        • She referred to that yesterday in her speech and to how difficult it was. Of course, it must be very very hard to declare defeat. But I believe Bernie understands the extraordinary danger of Trump and I’m sure he will start fighting Trump on Hillary’s behalf very soon. The danger is too enormous not to begin fighting it with all one has.

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  4. I think the surest way to stop Trump is to help the Libertarian Party candidates. They have been polling around 10% lately, I think. The slight danger, of course, is that they might win. But they would be slightly better than Trump.

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  5. @ Stringer Bell. Clinton didn’t mention Obama during a rally before she “officially” conceded on June 7th, 2008. Her June 7th concession speech was indeed gracious. Here is a brief quotation:

    “The way to continue our fight now, to accomplish the goals for which we stand is to take our energy, our passion, our strength, and do all we can to help elect Barack Obama, the next president of the United States. Today, as I suspend my campaign, I congratulate him on the victory he has won and the extraordinary race he has run. I endorse him and throw my full support behind him. And I ask all of you to join me in working as hard for Barack Obama as you have for me.”

    I’m hoping that Sanders comes around soon and makes a similar speech.

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  6. The Dem platform is going to be the next battle. Hillary needs to embrace something that will enliven her base, and if she can find some elements of Bernie’s that she can include in the platform and embrace, everyone is going to be happy. If she does that, she has a unified party and a chance to control both the presidency and Congress. If she doesn’t she might still win, but won’t carry Congress and the next four years will be quite unpleasant for everyone.

    A lot of people who support Bernie don’t hate women. A solid portion of the country is looking for serious change in government economic policy. One of the big questions that Hillary needs to address is whether with her ties to Wall Street she can be a serious and effective agent for change.

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    1. “A lot of people who support Bernie don’t hate women. ”

      • Of course, absolutely. Bernie is a good person and most people who support him are good people, although, like every politician, he attracts his fair share of weirdos.

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  7. The young “intersectional feminists” over at Feministing sure don’t like Hillary or her nomination!

    feministing.com/2016/06/07/clintons-nomination-a-feminist-milestone/

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  8. You do realize that the Democratic Party just threw away a golden opportunity to make history, right?

    It could have been the first major political party in the U.S. to nominate a Jew for President.

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      1. Hillary already appointed herself one, back in 1999 when she was running for senator from New York. A Methodist, Hillary spoke publicly at the time of “very fond childhood memories” of the second husband of her grandmother, a Russian-born Jew named Max Rosenberg.

        She obviously has the same talent as Elizabeth Warren for coming up with politically useful ancestors.

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