Liveblogging The Second Presidential Debate

7:53 – ah, so Trump decided to make an issue of Bill Clinton’s sex life of 30 years ago. “Mommy, Billy started it first!” is a very adult debating strategy. Very presidential and mature. 

8:04 – they chose people who haven’t made up their mind yet. Do they even have minds if they can’t reach a decision at this late stage? What is their misfortune?

8:06 – the first question is funny, given the circumstances. Yes, Trump is modeling very appropriate behavior for youth. Especially the youth whose life goal is to end up incarcerated.

8:10 – Anderson Cooper goes straight for the video. Trump repeats words “locker room” like they are a magical eraser of reality.  

8:17 – Trump is trying to defend himself with some really bizarre, stumbling stories. 

8:19 – who is the brain-damaged freak who applauded Trump?

8:24 – I’m almost feeling sorry for the wobbly old man. Almost. 

8:26 – we are back to emails? Seriously? Wake me up after this is over. 

8:29 – Cooper is at least trying to keep Trump from interrupting.

8:31 – why is Trump hovering behind Hillary when she talks? Is he that desperate to be on camera?

8:38 – “Yes, Islamophobia is bad,” Trump says. This would be comical if it weren’t so offensive. 

8:51 – the question about whether politicians can have public and personal positions is so infantile that I’m ashamed I heard it. 

8:54 – “She’s raising taxes on the middle class, you can look at me, she’s raising taxes.” What does any of this mean? Is he altogether with us? 

9:00 – why does he keep bringing up Sanders? Bernie endorsed Hillary and is campaigning with her, or hasn’t Trump heard?

9:07 – “Russia is new and we are tired and old and exhausted in terms of nuclear.” I need an interpreter. 

9:08 – “Assad is killing ISIS and Russia is killing ISIS and Iran is killing ISIS.” WTF does this mean?

9:09 – Trump publicly snubbed Pence. Fun!

9:11 – “Why can’t they just go secretively?” The fellow is so stupid. 

9:22 – another dig at this mysterious Blumenthal whom Trump seems to be obsessed with. 

9:26 – Hillary’s vision of what the Supreme Court should be like is so beautiful. I love her. 

9:34 – Hillary is so smart and light on her feet. She came up with the perfect response to the very hard question of what’s positive about Trump. I love her even more. 

55 thoughts on “Liveblogging The Second Presidential Debate

    1. Trump excuses his tape comments by saying that at least ISIS is worse. That’s true, too. ISIS is worse than him. That was not a high bar to clear.

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  1. “they chose people who haven’t made up their mind yet.”

    The alternative would be to have Republican or Democratic partisans asking “gotcha” questions to the candidate whom they already oppose. You wouldn’t get meaningful questions.

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  2. 918: Trump: I’m going to shout out all of Bill Clinton’s zipper scandals. Also she defended a rapist. Say hi to some women in the audience.

    920: HRC counterjabs.

    921: You started the birtherism! You are a cheater and Michelle Obama isn’t your friends! 30,000 emails! I’m going to appoint a special prosecutor on you if I win.

    924: Audience groans at HRC’S response. She plugs her fact checking website.

    “It’s a good thing you aren’t in charge of the law in this country.”
    “Yes because you’d be in jail.”

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  3. ‘Why aren’t you asking questions about emails?’, right after he finished a 2 minute uninterrupted monologue about emails.

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  4. 928: Trump cannot stop interrupting her. Also he doesn’t believe in deleting emails ever. Trump starts yelling at Anderson Cooper about emails.

    931: This health care premium question is tough. I don’t this guy cares about being under 26 or gender rating. Ehh.

    Trump claims he gets asked about healthcare more than anything else. Repeal and replace, the same song. Canada is a catastrophe!

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  5. The only way to describe the content of Trump’s responses is stuff cribbed from right-wing racist chain emails. Literally random phrases thrown in with no connection to each other.

    ‘ISIS drowning people!’ ‘Laughed at a 12 year old rape victim!’ ‘Government out of my Medicare!’

    You connect the dots, folks, it’s all out there. WAKE UP SEEPLE!

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  6. 941: Trump blabbers his set speech on terrorism. HRC attempts to reassure the questioner.

    942: Captain Khan is an American hero! It’s HRC’s fault. The moderator tells him answer the question. Extreme vetting!
    944: HRC mentions the kid covered in dust. Blames Russian bombing. Goes after the religious tests. Trump is used in ads for ISIS. Also Trump was for the Iraq war. Trump interrupts.

    947: Bernie says she’s bad! The border agents endorsed me!

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  7. 950: Trump loves Putin! Release your taxes!
    Trump says stop blaming Russia! My balance sheet is so great! Audience laughs at Abe Lincoln zinger!

    953: It’s HRC’s fault the tax code sucks and the carried interest exemption exists! I’m going to lower taxes!
    Trump.is a fantasist. He hasn’t paid taxes in 20.years! If you make under 250k your taxes won’t go up. Trump paces and holds a chair.

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  8. Trump name-checking George Soros as if his band of anti-semitic Breitbart readers don’t know that name already.

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  9. 958: I’m a CPA! Everyone used it! Won’t answer question about federal income tax payment. Thinks she has been in charge for 30 years.
    Switches back to ISIS

    1000: Trump cannot stop interrupting her about varied interest. She goes right into her elevator speech. Trump paces.

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  10. Fashion notes: HRC is wearing a navy pantsuit with a lavender shell and lavender lapels with silver small hoops and a pantsuit. Trump is wearing a navy suit and a red tie. The effect is to tie both the Moderators and make them blend into the room.

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  11. HRC’S patiently listening face is politely pissed. Radiate is trying to reign Trump in. Tries to get him to actually talk about what he’d do in Syria.

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  12. “another dig at this mysterious Blumenthal whom Trump seems to be obsessed with.”

    Another one of his anti-semitic dog whistles. The right is obsessed with him.

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      1. It has nothing to do with Blumenthal’s ethnicity. Look up Blumenthal’s relationship with Secretary of State Clinton over the objections of President Obama.

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  13. 1027: Trump claims he’s self funding and touts his average donation. Why aren’t you self funding your campaign? HRC clarifies her 2nd amendment position.

    1030: The EPA is killing the energy in this country! We have so much clean coal! I will bring the energy companies back. Digression into steel.

    HRC: Trump is buying steel from China. It’s OPEC keeping oil prices down. Wants to move toward more renewable energy. Look at my website.

    1034: Say something about the other person! Audience guffaws.
    HRC: Praises his kids.
    Trump : She doesn’t quit she doesn’t give up and she fights hard.

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  14. Trump’s final answer more generous and sincere than hers. He complimented her directly, she only complimented his kids.

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  15. “Trump publicly snubbed Pence. Fun!”

    Well at the height of pussygate (from what I can tell) it looked like the Republican leaders were going to try to force Trump off the ticket (moving Pence up as it’s too late to change ballots I believe) and/or Pence was thinking of quitting the ticket (not much of a loss probably since he was meant to balance the ticket for the evangelicals who aren’t behind Trump anyway).

    It’s probably reasonable to believe that Pence was not supportive of Trump when the going got a little rough and Trump is not the kind to let bygones be bygones.

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