Level of Discourse

~ Clarissa

The White House Press secretary just used the word “screwed.” Like in “I keep getting screwed” said to Trump by an imaginary rally attendee. Let’s place bets on how soon he moves on to “fucked.”

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    1. “Being that the U.S. is so third-world anyway”

      • You’d never say this even as a joke if you ever had to live for 3 months in the summer in a huge industrial city with no running water and for two weeks in the Montreal-type winter with no electricity or heating. And this is an experience from a second-world country.

      Feeling sorry for yourself in the midst of the opulence you possess is kind of wimpy.

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      1. I take it you’re using the word “opulence” in a relative way.
        I receive SSDI and SSI and use the computers at the library and ride public transit.

        I may reside in an apartment with running water and plenty of heat and air, and have a TV and a stereo system, but those are only opulent in comparison to how you grew up when you were younger.
        I’m hardly “suburbia”.

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  2. I’m sorry, Tal. But you truly have no idea of what it’s like to live in a “third world” country, even if you’re just visiting your middle class grandparents for the summer.

    It’s not about civility or demeanor.

    And there are places in the US where people live without potable water because all of these civic institutions have failed.

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      2. By the way, no clean water and no running water are not the same thing. No running water means you can’t flush the toilet. That’s the greatest hardship of that situation.

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  3. I see that OBL (Our Beloved Leader ) has declared that January 20, his inauguration day, will from now on be referred to as the “National Day of Patriotic Devotion. ” Will he call America “The Fatherland” or “The Motherland.” Bets taken now.

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      1. Every Federal department is now prohibited from sharing data with the public.

        But no, this is not the end of life, so it’s all good. Let freedom ring!

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      1. Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand is the only person who voted ‘no’ on every Trump appointee. Let’s remember that in 2020.

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    1. The Republicans aren’t my “beloved” party — just the preferrable one given the choices in this country.

      And no, I don’t have to defend all — or any! — GOP actions to you, any more than I ask you to defend the actions of your “beloved” Democrats when they continually supply massive forgeign aid to that evil Jewish nation in the Middle East that you despise so much.

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      1. Ok, the ‘beloved’ part was snark. Sorry. I’m trying to be better, I promise!

        I just think some things are clearly wrong, and they should transcend party lines. You’ve seen me criticize the dems (and Obama!) numerous times on this blog. Clarissa does it too. Fucking kill me if I ever get to the point where I’m carrying water for the party.

        You (and million others) seem to have this ‘my party – right or wrong’ mentality about you, which honestly weirds me out. But maybe that also explains why your party wins so much.

        As for Israel, I mean, let’s hear a moral defense of a military-enforced occupation. I can’t believe anyone who espouses western values of enlightenment would ever support this brutality. Now that the two-state solution is officially dead, I guess the idea is to continue this status quo until the Palestinians die out. Which, you don’t seem to have a problem with. Anyway, we both know what the other thinks, and I don’t think I can change your mind, or you mine. So let’s just leave it.

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        1. ” I don’t think I can change your mind, or you mine. So let’s just leave it.”

          You’re right about that, at least. So yeah, let’s just leave it.

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        2. I think everybody realizes that if Democrats or any politician anywhere did anything like the Republicans have done in just the last couple of days, I would be hollering to the skies, calling them freakazoids and everything else.

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        1. “Ah, Dreidel, so it isn’t love on your part, it’s just settling.”

          ALL politics is “settling,” in the real world.

          “I think everybody realizes that if Democrats or any politician anywhere did anything like the Republicans have done in just the last couple of days, I would be hollering to the skies”

          Sure you would, Clarissa, but what good would it do except letting off steam — which admittedly is what your webbsite is for? But all your hollering wouldn’t reverse a single executive order or a single policy.

          If I criticized Republican policies that I disagreed with on this website, the only result would be that you and Stringer Boy would say, “Well, nah, nah, it’s YOUR party, YOU voted for them, how can you even live with yourself?”

          In this country, you have exactly TWO all-or-none choices when it comes to the party in power. You either vote for party A or party B — it isn’t like a Chinese restaurant menu, where you get to selct three items you like from Column A and three that you like from party B.

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          1. “Well, nah, nah, it’s YOUR party, YOU voted for them, how can you even live with yourself?”

            You’re mistaken here. I would have nothing but respect for anyone who criticized their party. It shows independence of mind, for starters.

            I’d be more likely to say how can you even live with yourself when you stay silent or even endorse heinous ideas your party sometimes espouses.

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            1. “I would have nothing but respect for anyone who criticized their party. It shows independence of mind, for starters.”

              So I’d get a pat on the back from you for being “noble.” No thanks — I don’t need external validation from people whose worldview is dramatically different than mine.

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              1. Then why did you say you reason for not criticizing your party was that it would entail us making fun of you?

                Seems like you do crave validation from us, like it or not.

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            1. “Then why did you say you reason for not criticizing your party was that it would entail us making fun of you?”

              What I’m saying is — and I’m not going to belabor the point — is that giving an opinion in a forum where it won’t be seriously considered as a valid opinion for discussion is A WASTE OF TIME. I don’t mind the “Nah, nahs” — they simply aren’t worth my time responding back.

              “why have opinions at all if a single person’s opinion can’t change anything?”

              I didn’t say “a single person’s opinion can’t change anything.” I’ll repeat, giving an opinion in a forum where it won’t be seriously considered as a valid option for discussion is A WASTE OF TIME. Why did you stop giving your opinion over on Melissa McEwan’s website?

              “Or why even exist?”

              That’s an absolutely unrelated question, Clarissa — and you know it! 🙂

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              1. I only commented on Shakesville once to correct some outlandish statement about Russia. I very rarely comment on blogs at all, to be honest.

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  8. Oh man, I’m always in the market for a David Brooks evisceration.

    Can’t believe this idiot is employed.

    https://blogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/blog/2017/01/24/you-will-never-be-good-enough-for-david-brooks/

    “So today Brooks is his usual self: the marches were very nice, you see, but they’re about the wrong thing. And also it’s the wrong time–it’s always the wrong time, strangely enough, for this kind of politics, according to Brooks, except at some point in the past that Brooks usually knows almost nothing about. (Protip hint, should he ever grow curious: there has never been a social movement in this country or any other which included everyone in all segments of society. Every “success”, like the civil rights movement, the favorite of sanctimonious pundits, had numerous enemies and was socially divisive.)”

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    2. People who are terrified of “divisive” things still haven’t gotten over the childhood stage when they were terrified of Mommy and Daddy fighting. So tiresome. I don’t even understand the word “divisive.” Yes, the world is filled with divisions, how shocking.

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    3. Can’t believe this idiot is employed.
      He is employed because he is the literal child of the people MLK Jr was criticizing in his “Letter from a Birmingham Jail.” He is a concern troll.
      It has nothing to do with his stunning insights or scintillating prose.

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  9. “I think everybody realizes that if Democrats or any politician anywhere did anything like the Republicans have done in just the last couple of days, I would be hollering to the skies, calling them freakazoids and everything else.”

    Imagine if Hillary didn’t show her tax returns, or indulged in outright fraud and embezzlement in her foundation, or opened a college to fleece students. God, the list is endless.

    Obama has been the most decent, scandal-free president this country has had in decades and this is what they think of him. Fucking hell, though, they won.

    😀

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      1. Remember when Bill Clinton met Loretta Lynch in an airport for 30 minutes? Dreidel was so mad at the supposed corruption.

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        1. “Dreidel was so mad at the supposed corruption.”

          Was I, Stringer Boy? You quote a quote from me on that handy — or are you just making up other people’s opinions again?

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  12. Dreidel, tell us again about those pesky social issues that were settled and republicans were fighting a useless fight against the arrow of time?

    “HR 7 — formally known as the No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion and Abortion Insurance Full Disclosure Act of 2017 — is essentially an extension of the Hyde Amendment, which prevents federal funds from being used for abortion. There are already 10 states that prohibit insurance coverage of abortion for all providers, and another 15 who prohibit it for Obamacare recipients, but this federal bill would eliminate all insurance funding for abortion. Even if you had private insurance through a non-religious company in a liberal part of the country, you still wouldn’t be allowed to get coverage.”

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