OK, fine, but then why is Europe dismantling itself over WWII? I’m ready to move on but nobody else is.
Forget WWII, why are we still apologizing to the tribes defeated centuries ago? Why are we constantly guilty over slavery?
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OK, fine, but then why is Europe dismantling itself over WWII? I’m ready to move on but nobody else is.
Forget WWII, why are we still apologizing to the tribes defeated centuries ago? Why are we constantly guilty over slavery?
“Why are we constantly guilty”
White man’s burden?
9/11 was carried out by aggrieved muslims (officially ‘brown’ so they can’t be expected to have moral agency).
WWII (in Europe) and Slavery (at least the Atlantic Slave Trade) were carried out by whites.
By contrast no one cares about the Arab Slave Trade (still ongoing).
No one cares about leftist atrocities either… Great Leap Famine? Forgotten. Killing Fields? Forgotten. Holodomor? Forgotten. Rwandan genocide? Forgotten.
Different strokes for different folks.
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To be honest, I don’t have any guilt about slavery since no one in my family was anywhere near the US when it happened, they were all peasants in Europe. Of course slavery sucked, but it didn’t affect me or my family. I really don’t feel guilty about historical stuff since my family had nothing to do with that, I would feel guilty if my family was in the Mafia but not for stuff that happened well before any of us was in the US
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Would you feel guilt about slavery if your ancestors had been in the U.S. when slavery was legal? Would you feel guilt if your ancestors had been slave owners or slave traders? I certainly hope not. Some of my ancestors owned slaves, and I feel exactly zero guilt for it. Guilt is not inherited. The notion that I would be considered responsible for misdeeds committed by my predecessors before I was born is obscene.
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I wouldn’t feel guilty in that situation either since slavery hasn’t been legal in the US for well over a hundred years, there’s no sense flagellating yourself for what your ancestors did and have no control over. All I know is that my ancestors were Spanish farmers, it’s highly unlikely they hired outside workers much less had slaves
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“my ancestors were Spanish farmers, it’s highly unlikely they hired outside workers”
Define “Spanish”….. Of course you should feel no guilt or responsibility whatsoever for what your ancestors may have done but I know from experience that “Spanish” can mean a lot of different things when spoken by immigrants from Latin America (thinking of your parents, not you).
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My family originally came from the Canary Islands on my mother’s side and Galicia on my father’s, my grandparents were all born in Cuba to Spanish immigrants. We’re basically Spaniards who made a pit stop in Cuba, I like to say, we spent many more generations in Spain than in Cuba. But since my parents came from Cuba, we’re Cuban American but it gets tricky since we’re white. God bless Americans and their weird racial meanings
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I’ve had to delete numerous replies to this one. Its very difficult to touch the topic of the holocaust without causing lots of strife. The slavery issue not so much.
So my two cent is this. It is being done deliberately, both of them are being pushed because it is extremely lucrative and generates a ton of soft power.
I highly suspect both are being pushed by people with no morals who don’t care about what the consequences of pushing these narratives will be. Because they want the gains of the short term and don’t care about how it will play out.
Ok fair warning I am going to be extremely blunt going forward. If you get butt-hurt easily skip to the next comment.
Lets start with the elephant in the room. If the holocaust was done by Germany, then why is the so called guilt of it being pushed in every single white nation on the planet earth? America, Canada, New Zealand, Spain, Australia, England, probably Greece too.
None of them were involved or if they were it was on the other side. At best some, not all, but some of the nations were guilty of refusing to take in the Jews when Hitler made a requested to those nations to take them off his hands and was told to handle them on his own.
To me the fact that it is spread worldwide, but only in white nations means it was spread deliberately. This was not organic, it was pushed. It generates soft power. Every movement that tries to stop globalism or restore their own nations. “Your Nazis, remember the holocaust, you want to kill the Jews.” This gets spread by the media and the politicians fear they won’t get elected. It gets drummed into school text books. It makes a very convenient excuse for Globalists and Leftists worldwide to push their views and narratives.
Now I am not blaming the Jews, I want to make this very clear. Are members of their government extremely problematic? Yes. But so are members of the American government, the German Government, UK and Canada if they had governments, etc.
The other Elephant is the guilt over slavery. I think this one started after the holocaust stuff. I believe when certain sharletons saw the money and soft power being generated by the pushing the guilt of the holocaust on the world they wanted in on the game.
So they started pushing guilt for slavery. Again to Globalists and Leftists, they ran with it. After all why not. They hate nation states, and this was a good counter to them. They don’t actually give a damn about the blacks, so why not put them into a cold race war against the whites. It furthers their goals of destroying the nations after all.
I think this saw some success in America, or at least success with politicians who want to stay in power more than anything else, and thus it was pushed elsewhere.
So now the consequences that are being ignored, and that is and will be a problem. We are rapidly seeing viewpoints of Blacks and Jews shift almost in real time. Online a decade ago you might see the occasional person state that Hitler was right. Now its a very common occurrence. Tolerance of the blacks is shrinking rapidly, and quite frankly it would not surprise me one bit to see movements spring up in Europe to drive them out of the white homelands.
These are all at the talking stages, but all it really takes is a match and the world will be at war once more.
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Great comment, thank you. We need to quit the cheap, addictive drug of historic guilt because it’s destroying us. As Renaud Camus says, to expiate the guilt over Holocaust France and Germany brought in so many Muslims that Jews can’t live peacefully in those countries any more. Something is wrong if a remedy to the Holocaust is achieving the opposite effect.
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How do we curb any of this when the Humanities have been gutted by comminism/feminism (sorry Kid, all same,same). How many people know that slavery was worldwide was ended by the British? And most particularly by the British taxpayers that not only funded the naval power but the compensation to free all the slaves in the empire. The cost was so large that it was not fully paid out until 2015.
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LOL, damn I miss the ability to edit, to many was was ;-D
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Malema apologists seem to have missed the point that his views are exactly the same as Richard Spencer’s.
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Exactly. It’s often hard to determine if one is reading a neo-Nazi or a leftist account. The rhetoric is so similar.
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Malema comes from the region of SA most notorious for neo-Nazis. He might as well be considered the black version of Eugene Terre’Blanche and the AWB.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afrikaner_Weerstandsbeweging
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One reason for clinging to the past is clinging to power. This was a major reason behind De Clerk’s decision to abdicate. By doing so he gave his people the freedom to pursue their own future free from historic guilt.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/f-w-de-klerk-was-a-hero-of-our-time/
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