I don’t know how to say it so that it doesn’t sound callous but let’s hope that the woman shot in Minneapolis for trying to run over law enforcement is very very white. Because if not, there’ll be another George Floyd situation.
Why people, women especially, would want to go make themselves a nuisance with police is incomprehensible. Women normally are very attuned to their physical safety. Women of child-bearing age and mothers, in particular, are very avoidant of physically dangerous situations. It’s an instinct.
Very sad for the woman and also for all of us having to coexist with such madness.
Nonzero chance it was a “woman”.
In helpfully slowed-down vid, you can clearly see:
-agent who fired is *in front* of the vehicle when the vehicle straightens tires and starts moving forward, at which point he draws weapon, aims at windshield.
-with wheels *straight*, driver hits accelerator hard enough to spin the tires. Icy road may have saved the agent’s life here.
https://x.com/michael_texan/status/2008987513902477598
In 2nd angle, also helpfully slowed down, it appears the agent who fired on the vehicle, had a hand on the vehicle when it moved forward– can’t explain the angle at which he’s leaning any other way. Seems to have used that as leverage to hop-skip out of the way.
https://x.com/0hour1/status/2008978057961582940
At normal playback speed, all of that goes down very very fast. Like one second. Looks like room for ambiguity. Frame by frame it’s pretty clear.
Aside: comparing US ‘protesters’ in vids like these with the footage coming out of Iran gives me great hope. Iranians mean it. Stuff is happening because *normal* people are out in the streets. The US has not got normal people mobilized. Whatever these people are, they do not constitute an effective force. They’re much less irritating in the slo-mo, where they sound like cattle lowing.
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Post-menopausal woman maybe? The number of older women getting in people’s faces over this stuff is astonishing but my observation is that they are also less likely to have experienced real life consequences for making nuisances of themselves and be more easily emotionally manipulated by toxic empathy.
We’ll see eventually.
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37 seems early to be post-menopausal, but not impossible. I’ve known at least one lady who had an unavoidable hysterectomy at that age, which kind of forces the process.
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“footage coming out of Iran gives me great hope”
What seems to (maybe) make current protests different is that at least in one city the police joined the demonstrators.
Protests alone can’t change an authoritarian government, you have to have a faction/section of the power structure ready to throw in with the people.
That existed in Poland in 1989 and didn’t in Belarus in 2020… so far it hasn’t existed in Iran but maybe now…… (hope hope hope).
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I’m not sure if there’s hope for Iran or not. Best of luck to them.
But if the whiny bastards are all the US can muster, they’re not worth worrying about 😉
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What did this person die for? Why? Such terribly suicidal behavior.
Thank you for the links, I really appreciate it.
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“What did this person die for?”
Virtue-signalling, performative suicidal empathy is the name.
Used to be almost wholly related to female behavioral patterns, but things have changed, generationally speaking, in recent years. More and more young people seem to be affected by this kind of personality disorder irrespective of sex.
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Yeah, jews taking advantage of the christian virtues of westerners is why we’re in the present moment. Keep jerking off to pop-psych analysis about western women while ignoring the structural causes behind the immigration mess.
“It’s the white women’s fault!!” lol sure, bud.
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@Stringer Bell
I beg to differ.
It’s civilisational, yes, and it’s also gender- and culture-specific. One does not exclude the either.
And yes, all civilisations are undermined by women insofar as female-specific mental patterning replicates itself contagion-like across society, displacing male-specific mental patterns which are what any and every successful society has been based upon, historically speaking.
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From the little bits trickling out in items like this:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15443231/minneapolis-ice-shooting-victim-wife-screams.html
Seems a good chance she was not in her right mind. That doesn’t make it OK to attempt to run over police, but might contribute a lot to poor and impulsive decision making.
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What I want to know is how come these women aren’t at work on a Wednesday? Are they on vacation? Unemployed? Who pays the bills?
Or were they at work yesterday? Then who’s the employer?
If it’s true, as the “wife” says, that they recently moved to Minneapolis, why did they move if not for jobs? If they really know nobody there, as she claims, and have no jobs, why would they displace three kids in that way? Moving with 3 kids is a nightmare. It’s an even worse nightmare if you are unemployed.
Why did the wife only mention one kid when it looks like there were three? Where are the kids?
Somebody needs to be asking these questions because there must be a reason why an unwell woman who’s new to town ended up acting erratically at a protest. Who brought her there and why?
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Also, I’d have to say that the wife shows the presence of mind that’s quite scary. Immediately to start spinning the story of “we are new here, we don’t know anybody” is extraordinary under the circumstances. Normally, a person would be freaking out over the shot spouse and not fabricating narratives. That she only mentions one child, and the child of the previous spouse to boot, is even more interesting.
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Yeah. There’s a lot off about that.
Holding onto “this could be a totally unrelated crisis actor” until proven otherwise.
If not a crisis actor… so many questions, and suspect sordid details will trickle out over next few weeks.
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I hope somebody is investigating because nothing about this protest looks remotely organic. Are unstable people being recruited and sent to these skirmishes on purpose? Who’s funding all this? I understand that in Minnesota it’s impossible to investigate anything but someone should try.
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“Are unstable people being recruited and sent to these skirmishes on purpose? “
Yes.
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That’s the only conclusion one can reach. This clearly leads towards another George Floyd moment that’s being consciously engineered because it was so useful the last time around.
I just finished a conversation with a colleague who had the same reaction of “Thank God, she’s white.” And he’s liberal but tired of the George-Floydization of academia.
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Turns out that this agent was almost killed by a criminal who hit him with the car and dragged him only a few months ago.
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Whatever else is going on in this particular case, using vehicles as weapons certainly seems to be part of the current radical activist ‘protester’ handbook.
Pretty sure the organizers aren’t following that suggestion themselves (leave that for the low-IQ and suicidal: same as recruiting for suicide bombers), but the outcome in this case is almost certainly what they were hoping for. They want martyrs. If they keep encouraging the mentally deficient in this way, they will surely get them. Bonus points if they’re photogenic.
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I’m also completely confused about what it is that people think they support. The depth of feeling they evince seems utterly unjustified. You are willing to lay down your life for what? Illegal immigration? It’s a weird cause to evoke such deep feelings.
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Where does one get the confidence to make pronouncements like this, with zero knowledge or a country’s language, history, culture, and politics? I mean, sure go ahead support whoever the fuck you want, but “Iranians mean it” is just lol.
If your source of hope is whatever makes Ben Shapiro cum in his pants, then you deserve to be ruled by this government and the elites you complain about here. The only problem is that the rest of us are forced to live with the consequences of this kind of politics as well.
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Hi Stringer. You seem off lately. Are things OK with you?
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““Iranians mean it” is just lol”
Why? I’ve known a few over the years and they loathe the regime. A few years ago speaking to one living in Poland I compared the situation in Iran to that of Poland in the late 70s to early 80s (the system doesn’t work, can’t be made to work, almost everybody wants out of it but they don’t know how to get there). They completely agreed and talked about how the regime has turned the population against the religion itself etc
To de facto ally with the mullahs and their alliance with russia in killing Ukrainians is a lot worse. Leave Israel out of the picture if you can and just focus Iranian people and government, I love seeing Iranians standing up to their objectively awful government.
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Current rumor IDs driver as a 37yo woman
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Incomprehensible.
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IKR? Car had MO plates. What was she doing so far from home?
photos showing interior of car have a thing with apparent uni logo in the passenger floorboard (and dash stuffed with plush animals). Trying to figure out what uni that is… drawing a blank. Nothing in MN.
https://x.com/Bryozoan136344/status/2009007452084441125
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“Incomprehensible.“
It’s not. Female behavioral patterns involving empathy: the need to show oneself – to self and the world – that one is good and caring.
It explains, for example, among many other things, why so many women are supportive of transgenderism and are, in fact, the majority among supporters of trans activists. An unbelievable number of lesbians – in mainstream lesbianism – are self-declared “trans-inclusive feminists”.
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https://x.com/rawsalerts/status/2009021395205079184
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Rainbow flag and pronouns in bio, pink hair. No surprises there.
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Renee Nicolle Good according to her supposed mother, 37 years of age, Mom of two, appears to be Caucasian. What a bloody waste, and an utter horror for her family.
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A lesbian?
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There was no further info. Her mother had been informed of her death. She said that her daughter was 37, had two children, and seemed surprised that she was involved.
and didn’t the
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I’m not as optimistic as you, r.e. race. Pretty young white women are appealing martyrs.
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American cops are too trigger happy. I saw the video, that cop was not in any real danger, could have just gotten out of the way and just arrest that woman later.
I don’t care how much people will scream that you shouldn’t escape police, that is no reason to shoot a person point blank that is not a real serious threat.
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No, In both the USA and Canada, an officer legally has the authority to ask you to step out of the vehicle. Period. Full stop.
Further, remember our Mounties have now been heavily infected by AA/DEI horseshit for decades, yours are most likely the same. Think about the consequences.
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Yeah. But in what jurisdiction is not stepping out when asked a sentenced of death carried out immediately?
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She spun the tires with the wheels still straight and the cop in front of the car.
The only reason he wasn’t run over is the road was icy.
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Are you okay? When an officer asks you to step out of your vehicle, you are required to do so. You do not have the personal discretion to attempt to drive off— especially when you are putting another officer at risk.
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” not stepping out when asked”
Cars are lethal weapons, law enforcement is generally supposed to act on a worst-case scenario basis, the worst case in this instance might be something like Waukesha….
Very unfortunate and preventable by Good herself.
Remember that Democrats paint ICE agents as pure evil demons harassing American citizens for no reason whatsoever (in democrat terms) so when confronted with one she may have simply panicked, which was the worst possible response).
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I don’t like it when people refer to every bad behavior as mental illness but I can’t see how this woman can be mentally well. Especially if it’s true that she has 3 kids, and the father of one of them is dead. This wasn’t even a protest over anything specific but vague, general agitation.
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“wasn’t even a protest over anything specific”
I think the new line is that she wasn’t protesting which makes her actions even more incomprehensible.
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She was there randomly, with her wife randomly filming her as she drove?
Yes, this is exactly the way that normal people like to spend their Wednesdays. Maybe N and I are missing out on an exciting new trend in spousal activities.
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I don’t think it’s ok for police to leave a person in that mental state drive around at full speed. She was in no fit state to drive. What if she hit innocent civilians?
The important question here is why she was behaving this way. Was she on drugs? Medication? It’s clearly not rational behavior.
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You’re saying you’re ok with police executing people on the spot when they MAY be driving dangerously. Is that right?
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To me the shooting looks defensible. What’s more concerning are reports that a bystander doctor tried to save her life and was not allowed to.
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It is defensible because cops shooting people for the slightest sense of danger is defensible in the USA. But maybe it shouldn’t be.
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It’s defensible from a legal point of view. Easy to monday morning quarterback this situation but a car charging at you clearly exceeds the threshold for use of deadly force. I’ve posted what I think is the most plausible explanation. Her tires lost traction, she panicked, and hit the gas even harder, losing complete control. Shitty situation all around.
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In this case, I would not remotely trust that said “witnesses” were not paid agitators who are literally trained to say BS like that.
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Please read up on the role of “medics” in the antifa scene. They are not helpful bystanders.
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I really don’t like it when people try to translate what I said. She drove straight at a police officer and it would be dereliction of duty for him to step aside and let civilians suffer instead. He would have saved himself a sea of trouble if he did nothing. Like the police started to do after George Floyd and mortality from crime among African Americans soared.
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We really don’t know enough but I think the threshold for shooting people point blank should be way higher than it currently is.
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How do you have access to her mental state?
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This seems to be the most plausible explanation. Woman driver + panic.
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If she had not spun out the officer in front may well have been run over, as it is some are saying she clipped his leg. And the one holding the door might also have been seriously harmed. Regardless, it is a tragedy, and Walz, Frey, and Schumer et al should quit making the dangerous situation worse.
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Best view of the incident to this point:
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Maybe related.
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“nixstyx
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The officer clearly steps in front of the vehicle while it is in reverse, creating the dangerous situation for himself, which was one of the central deciding factors for denying qualified immunity in Starks v. Enyart. It’s conceivable that the driver didn’t even see the officer that shot her because she could have been looking at the officer at her door or behind her while in reverse. No matter how you slice it, this is bad practice by the officer. “
Things are starting to become clearer. Increasingly looking like that was unacceptable use of force.
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“Probably will be justified, but not sure I would want the death of a person on my head because I was dumb enough to stand in front of a car. I do lots of traffic stops, directly in front of or behind a car is not where you should ever be, barring some sort of emergency. You can always get a tag and arrest later. Not worth getting run over, and shooting a driver doesn’t even have an above average chance of slowing a car anyway
This is what happens when you hire anyone off the street, and give them the barest minimum of training though. I deal just enough with Ice that I dread every time I’m with one of their agents. Might be different other places, but the ones I deal with are definitely bottom of the barrel, and I’m pretty confident they would have all been washed out of our FTO program.”
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Q: how long was she sitting there in the car before the videos start?
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I’m beginning to agree. The 2nd and 3rd shots don’t look justifiable.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15443231/minneapolis-ice-shooting-victim-wife-screams.html
No confirmation. If you go by confusing and unreliable onlooker vid, the deceased’s wife was outside the vehicle.
I give completely even odds on two scenarios here:
-driver in lesbian relationship, reports say her husband died in 2023… possible just not in her right mind for a lot of reasons. There are some implications to grandma saying she’s coming to get the kid, at the same time someone is claiming to be “wife” here: i.e. this is not a relationship where grandma thinks the “partner” is someone who can/will take care of her grandkid like a parent.
-person claiming to be ‘wife’ is a crisis actor.
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That is not why she was shot. Brandishing a deadly weapon at a cop will get you shot.
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Simple question. If there’s a police officer standing in front of your vehicle with another police officer trying to open the door of your vehicle and asking you to get out, what would you do? Would you start driving at that moment? If not, here’s the answer to the question. We all know that each of us here would not start driving at that point.
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This:
https://x.com/i/status/2008983364049727743
Right?
It’s bizarre to behave otherwise and one must have a very serious reason to do that.
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