I was asked in the Q&A what I think about Christopher Nolan’s new film The Odyssey. I’m not going to watch the film, and not for any political reason. The reason why I’m not going to watch is that, as invariably happens with Hollywood movies, the film is going to try to deliver some message. The entire three-hour-long experience is going to be about hammering home that message in an insistent and clumsy way. Of course, the message is going to be some shade of leftwing, but it’s not the point. I wouldn’t watch it with a rightwing message either. I simply don’t want to be preached at in entertainment. I understand that the majority of viewers want one simple, understandable, relatable lesson. But I don’t, which is why I almost never go to the movies.
Another issue is that the acting is going to be invariably bad. The breakdown in America is that TV actors are phenomenal, while movie actors are not actors at all. They’re pretty, plastic mannequins who are entirely interchangeable and always very boring. It’s as if, in order to get cast, they all slept with the same old necrophile who wanted people to resemble fresh, painted corpses.
So there won’t be an interesting, nuanced story that will give me something to think about, and there will be no acting worthy of the name. Instead, there will be a lot of very expensive special effects and all sorts of technological innovations that will be utterly divorced from the actual story. It wasn’t always like this, but in the past 20-25 centuries, this became almost every Hollywood movie. I sometimes go just for the special effects, like in Dune. But special effects are interesting in sci-fi, not in Greek mythology.
None of what I say is prescriptive. I have very specific watching requirements because I read so much, and taking time away from my reading has to be justified. If people enjoyed the movie, it’s great. I’m happy for them.
Oh yeah, the message is very heavy-handed.
Circe scene was damn good tho.
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See? I knew it.
Since I haven’t watched, can anybody share the message? I’m very interested in what it is this time.
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Special military operations will be the death of your entire civilization.
It takes some effort to get my man, a Bronze age collapse buff, to utter the words “could you please shut up about the sea people” but Nolan managed.
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Thank you, now I’m really glad I didn’t watch it.
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“Circe scene was damn good tho”
I head about it and… acquired an online version just to see that and yes, very good body horror but short (there was an ad in the middle and I’m not sure if the scene was whole).
But also, skipping here and there… as others have pointed out, it’s very un-mediterranean and seems more like he was sailing around Scotland than the Aegean and Italy. I saw enough to decide I have no desire to see the whole thing and will delete it.
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I knew I wasn’t going to watch when I heard he cast Anne Hathaway and Zendaya. They are wind-up plastic dolls. And they are in every movie these days.
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Last 20-25 centuries? Hollywood sure has some staying power 😂
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This was clearly Freudian, so I will not correct. 😆😆😆
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we saw “young Washington” and I thought it was well done. I did not feel clobbered by messages. it left enough suggested through actions rather than spelling it all out with words.
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That’s great. I’m very happy that there are still worthwhile movies. I’ve also heard some really good stuff about it.
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Appears to be historically accurate(except an unlikely romance)…and I am kind of picky about the former. Wish the f’ing Liberals treated MacDonald the same ;-D
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It does apparently use about 20 seconds of (totally unnecessary) AI
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what was the part that was AI?
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I’m sure it wasn’t a real Cyclops.
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“sure it wasn’t a real Cyclops”
Ever since they unionized they’ve priced themselves right out of the movie market.
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A few examples in this article. I also remember reading that he used it for something involving cannons, but I’m not recalling the details. Seems to be using it similarly to how one would use CGI.
https://variety.com/2026/film/news/young-washington-director-jon-erwin-ai-1236801002/
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Wow. That’s a very slippery slope towards the preponderance of AI slop. Clumsy pun intended.
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I really don’t like it. At the same time, if you ask me why it’s ok to use CGI but not this, it’s hard for me to make a coherent argument. Though I also think CGI is heavily overused and I’d be happy to see if go at this point tbh.
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I was interested in this commentary by Lisa Libes (“Pen and Poison”), which mostly avoids the political dimension and takes it on from a scholarly / classicist perspective: https://youtu.be/nkBj6j3fN4k?si=nqwfxAj3xKVx8o3c
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Among conservatives on X, it’s pretty much the entirety of the Jewish commentariat that loved the movie. Now I’m kind of curious. Not enough to watch but I wonder.
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