A Charles Manson-type group operated in the Bay Area for the better part of a decade until finally being apprehended in 2025. It consisted of transgenders, both male and female, who worked in the tech industry. They formed a cult that conducted experiments on humans, defended the rights of shrimp (yeah, I know), and murdered people. For reasons that are clear to all of us, Zizians, as the cult became known based on the nickname of their leader, have not achieved the notoriety of the Manson cult.

All of the murders Zizians committed were terrible but one in particular stood out. There was an elderly man who was very kind to the cultists. He helped them, let them stay at his property for free, and was extremely tolerant of their eccentricities. In return, Zisians tried to murder him with samurai swords and gouged his eye out. The old man somehow managed to survive and escape from the crazed assassins. He went into hiding, but the cultists hunted him down and finally did murder him.

Andy Ngo’s investigative reporting on the murderous cult is explosive. The information he managed to find about the cultists is so shocking as to be almost unbelievable. The Zizians are extremely good at exploiting the intricacies of the American criminal justice system. Currently, seven of the cult members are jailed in three different states on a wide variety of charges. They jam up the system with endless motions, complaints, claims of abuse, genocide, misgendering, and bizarre forms of utterly invented suffering to wear out the prosecutors and avoid justice. They will probably be successful because there’s no public outcry and very little awareness of their crimes.

The dishonest book Helter Skelter, written by Vincent Bugliosi, the prosecutor of the Manson cult, became a worldwide bestseller. Andy Ngo’s much more professional and serious reporting in The Zizians will never gain this kind of recognition. This obviously never happens, but imagine if there were a group of MAGAs who conducted experiments on humans and murdered people in three states while ranting about how much they detest the libs. We’d never hear the end of it. But the Zizians are far-left, transgender, anti racist and pro-shrimp, so good luck hearing anything about the story.

Ngo’s book is great. It deserves to be a classic of true crime reporting. He writes about people who have fifteen different aliases, genders, and sets of pronouns each but manages to keep the narrative on track. It’s very, very important that people know about the crimes committed by the Zizians because that’s the only thing preventing Democrat politicians from pardoning the murderers.

13 responses to “Book Notes: The Zizians by Andy Ngo”

  1. Physpostdoc Avatar
    Physpostdoc

    WTH!? How did I miss reading about this death cult… the background and killings are egregious and ghoulish enough that this should have been mainstream media fodder…

    But you actually already kind of explain how this could have been deliberately underreported.. it makes me very worried and reevaluate my decision to not be on social media platforms like X (which I avoid to practice emotional and mental hygiene).

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    1. Clarissa Avatar

      I’m on X all the time, and I heard nothing about it there. I only found out from this book. This story would make for an amazing TV series, but of course nobody will ever film it for obvious reasons. Just the shrimp rights alone make it incredible. The cultists were extremely upset about the shrimp.

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      1. stille Avatar
        stille

        I’m on X also, and it was all Zizians all the time while this was happening. Scratch one more for

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        1. stille Avatar
          stille

          for social media bubbles creating reality 🙂

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        2. Clarissa Avatar

          Wow, there really are social media silos.

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  2. bluebird of bitterness Avatar
    bluebird of bitterness

    I hope Andy Ngo has a good bodyguard.

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    1. Clarissa Avatar

      He moved to another continent and lives in hiding. Transes already almost murdered him for his reporting.

      The most recent Tucker Carlson episode is an interview with Ngo. I highly recommend that people watch it. Ngo is much better at writing than public speaking but you can get a feel for the book from the interview.

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  3. mitchellporter Avatar
    mitchellporter

    I’ve known about these people for years because they are the most notorious spinoff of Less Wrong rationalism. My understanding of their core outlook as follows:

    1. A “technological singularity” of artificial superintelligence is imminent and its value system will determine the future of a large part of the universe (common belief among Less Wrong rationalists)
    2. Factory farming is a new, constant Holocaust (common belief among effective altruists)
    3. A society which tolerates factory farming will produce a singularity that makes an eternal hellworld

    They also had a peculiar idea that people naturally have a different personality in each brain hemisphere (this is a reasonably mainstream idea in neuroscience), and that they can learn to live so that these personalities take turns sleeping, so one or the other self is always awake (this is a recipe for psychosis due to lack of sleep, and also dovetails with the transgender construction of a new identity distinct from one’s old self).

    So their perspective as I understand it, was to see themselves as an awakened cognitive and moral elite, fighting to create a humane singularity. In this regard they are the same as hundreds of other terrorist groups with an idiosyncratic moral and political outlook pursued through violence, it’s just the specific lifestyle and ideological content that makes them unique yet very symptomatic of the zeitgeist.

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    1. Clarissa Avatar

      From what I understand, one of them was actually not stupid and was making very good money. The rest had an overinflated understanding of their own IQ but never managed to find the jobs in tech, which they thought they deserved. The writings they produce are filled with the most bizarre spelling mistakes. The whole thing apparently started because these people couldn’t make enough money to rent apartments in the Bay Area.

      Everything you say is correct, but I think that this added wrinkle is also worth mentioning. These are people who were led to believe that they had high IQs and would be able to make big money in tech, but in reality, they were not that smart and ended up being unemployable and angry as a result. Every murder they committed had a strong financial motive. This is a lot more monetary than ideological in its origins.

      The scary part is that Jack LaSota, or Ziz, the founder of the cult, is most likely to go free. So is Michelle Zajko, who is probably one of the scariest of all of them.

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      1. cliff arroyo Avatar

        “rest had an overinflated understanding of their own IQ”

        This is partly a consequence of the fetishization and moralization of IQ. By equating IQs and virtue people develop a vested interest in over-estimating their abilities as a form of social climbing. When that doesn’t work, many grow disappointed and a small-minority (probably those already infected with some narcissism-adjacent disorrder) turn murderous…

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        1. Clarissa Avatar

          I agree completely. This is a result of a very skewed and unhealthy view of human physiology and, of course, the cultists didn’t limit their unhealthy approach to just this one part of physiology. They thought that swapping their biological sex would somehow make them more virtuous.
          Their overinflation of the importance and the moral characteristics of the kind of food you eat and how much sleep you get is part of this same philosophy.

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    2. Robert G. Avatar
      Robert G.

      Thanks for the explanation of these jerks Mitch. The truth? You won’t believe it. But there is A TON of confirming contactees out there for any serious researcher.
      This planet has been the target of an Alliance of Six marauding alien races for a long time – for the natural resources and potential slave population to do the mining. They use horrific electronic implanting (as shown online in many of the Daft Punk animated music videos) that completely overwhelms the original spirit, installs multiple insanities like the brain personalities, criminal tendencies, crazy compulsive fixations, etc. They need to be corralled and imprisoned.

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      1. Clarissa Avatar

        Dude, is this humor? I really don’t like amateur humor. It’s very tiresome.

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