Did you hear that Michelle Obama didn’t put a submissive pillow case on her head to signal her enslavement to the barbarians in Saudi Arabia? And they swallowed it and said, “Thank you, ma’am”?
I totally dig this. Michelle rules.
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Did you hear that Michelle Obama didn’t put a submissive pillow case on her head to signal her enslavement to the barbarians in Saudi Arabia? And they swallowed it and said, “Thank you, ma’am”?
I totally dig this. Michelle rules.
Oh wow, that is going to hurt their feelings. It’s a new form of colonialism.
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Given that Muslims were the first ones to sell black Africans into slavery, I don’t think that colonialism is the subject anybody wants to be mentioning here.
Although, when did logic ever show up in such discussions?
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Yeah, but the Muslims sold the kafirs into slavery because they were good of heart and trying to teach them about morality. This is entirely different from Western colonialism, which is exploitative.
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Once you find the root of ALL evil, life becomes easy and pleasant. 🙂
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IN theory, but actually one never gets to the bottom of it, thus necessitating further purges. Ideally we all have to become like infants or the disabled who are unable to defend themselves. Only then will we be rectified.
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“Muslims sold the kafirs into slavery because they were good of heart”
I fully expect the fatal feminist to make that argument any day now.
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“Given that Muslims were the first ones to sell black Africans into slavery”
And let’s not forget that they’re essentially still doing so.
And let’s not forget that the abuse of third world employees that is rife throughout the Arab gulf is best understood as expressions of a slave-holding mentality – that maid from the Phillipines isn’t an “employee” whatever that might mean, she’s a slave is treated like one.
But since that doesn’t conform to the preferred narrative among liberals let’s just ignore it with a shrug and go back to carefully cultivating our grievances about some guy on the street who looked at us for about half-a-second too long or that fast food worker who said something, we didn’t quite hear what, but they definitely said something about our order of a bacon and pizza triple cheeseburger, super-extra-giant large size fries and Neapolitan 2 gallon milkshake….. it’s fat hatred people!
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I pretty sure non-Muslim Black Africans had indigenous slavery before the establishment of the Trans-Saharan slave trade.
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Colonialism makes everyone sad and angry. Just look at how cranky QEII was during the opening ceremony to the Olympics in London. No amount of kedgeree or ban mi or giant diamonds was going to make her happy. :p
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I don’t remember her ever being a huge ray of sunshine. 🙂
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“Colonialism makes everyone sad and angry”
Not all colonialism. All good people agree that British and French colonialism are just about completely to blame for any social dysfunction to found in their former colonies and that the UK and France must pay for their past crimes.
On the other hand, the Ottoman Empire was one of the largest in history and left plenty of social dysfunction behind it but no one seems too interested in blaming Turkey for that….
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“Not all colonialism. All good people agree that British and French colonialism are just about completely to blame for any social dysfunction to found in their former colonies and that the UK and France must pay for their past crimes.”
Actually historical determinist explanations like this really aren’t that good at all. I say this as someone who really does embrace history and historical explanations. But there was no primeval innocence. There have always been circumstances where groups have dominated and exploited other groups. In most cases where national boundaries have been drawn arbitrarily and discipline and control imposed in the same manner, the reduction of tribalistic hostilitites can be expected. Saddam Hussein performed that role of putting the lid on antagonisms between the Sunni and the Shia, until America intervened and the basic control mechanism was removed. You can’t say that imposition of power from above was the problem. Sunni and Shia would not have got along like pygmies in a forest in the absence of any imposed control. (Obviously not, as recent history itself tells us.)
In the same way, you cannot say that British colonialism was wholly to blame for reigniting the hostilities between the Shona and Ndebele in Zimbabwe. The removal of colonial control was equally to blame for Gukurahundi.
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“On the other hand, the Ottoman Empire was one of the largest in history and left plenty of social dysfunction behind it but no one seems too interested in blaming Turkey for that….”
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Probably because the British and French took over the Arab provinces in 1917 and these were the territories that had the worst problems. In contrast recast as a nation state the Turkish Republic turned out much better than did the Arab states that had been British and French League of Nation Mandates.
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Isn’t it funny how people have bad sentiments about something but do not articulate their bad sentiments? In recently noted one guy pronouncing (regarding me, I believe) “I knew there was something awry when she started liking my videos.” Some people’s thinking is really, really convoluted, it seems. Or perhaps no thinking is involved at all, just bad sentiments.
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She didn’t wear a head or face covering. Neither did Secretary of State Hillary Clinton when she met with Saudis in NY in 2011, nor did first lady Laura Bush when she visited Saudi Arabia 2006. Condi Rice didn’t bother either. They always carve out exceptions for foreign dignitaries especially from foreign countries that are more powerful. The same is true for other Arabian peninsula countries, like UAE.
Maybe she was mad they had to cut their visit to India short and missed seeing the Taj Mahal. :-p
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“Wear a head covering? Fine, how about this …”
[evil balaclava grin]
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In a rare on topic post, I would like to express my complete support of the First Lady in this case.
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And the rest of my posts are off topic?? That doesn’t sound like a compliment to me. 🙂
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I meant a rare on topic post for me….
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See: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2015/01/27/michelle-obama-forgoes-a-headscarf-and-sparks-a-backlash-in-saudi-arabia/
This pertains to the whole BS of demanding sensitivity and making sensitivity out to have a political meaning. The naive assumption is that the more sensitive we can become, the better for all involved, but I am of the opposite opinion, that if we have a clear and overarching social order (something akin to absolutism) we can avoid the worst traits of human infantile regression into paranoia, fear and blame. I’m very much not of the view that having any sort of power or respect for one’s own values is negative. To be even clearer, I see patriarchal authority as being predicated, more often than not, on an extreme form of infantilism — the fear of women. The agenda of heightening sensitivity is in exact opposition to any feminist outcome.
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“The agenda of heightening sensitivity is in exact opposition to any feminist outcome.”
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You are right. It is thought that they brought it on themselves by departing from the cultural script.
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