He refers to Anwar al-Awlaki, an American citizen and imam, who was killed in a drone attack on September 30, 2011 (“the first U.S. citizen to be added to a list of persons approved for targeted killing by the Central Intelligence Agency”).
RE Anwar al-Awlaki, some people found drone killing a citizen controversial:
<i.In short: Al-Awlaki is dead because the President signed a piece of paper saying that he was a bad man. I suspect he probably was a bad man, so it’s hard to be all that broken up about his death. But in theory, the President (or some future president) could sign a piece of paper saying that I’m a bad man too. Wouldn’t it be nice to have some due process about that?
It was a joke post of a different blogger.
I am sorry for spamming this post, Clarissa, when I posted I kept having problems with it and more than 1 link per post goes to spam.
We can take this discussion there. Here, I hoped people would talk about the OWS protests. For now, I’m seeing that 2 people who live outside the US are interested. The American readers don;t seem to want to share their insights. 🙂
I’ll wait for a while longer and write a post about what I think on this issue.
*Here, I hoped people would talk about the OWS protests.*
I linked to a post in your Weekly Links’ post, which says the protests aren’t efficient.
Personally, I most enjoyed Badtux’s posts on the topic. He sounded very convincing to me.
He has *just* put a new post “White Shirts” with more interesting details: how police owned by Mayor Bloomberg try to provoke “a riot so he can paint the protesters as violent evil people”, but fortunately so far only get put on YouTube.
His another great post on Sept 28 “Why are today’s protests so lame?” Personally, I blame the anti-war protesters of the 1960′s who think they ended the Vietnam War with their circus and continue to influence tactics. They didn’t end the Vietnam War.
But I mostly got impressed with the contrast between 2 photographs: protestors of today vs the protests led by Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Imo, every activist on Wall Street has to read this 1 most important post and look at the pictures, which are worth 1000 words here. Personally, I read lots of explanations on different blogs, but simple clear writing style combined with pictures did more to me than all 1001 long intelligent explanations in harder language. Look at the beauty: http://snarkypenguin.blogspot.com/2011/09/game-of-thugs.html
The post you quote practically says that “mature middle-aged men” do have the right to protest while “hip, cool” young people don’t. I find this position to be a tad antiquated, to be honest.
I also wanted to add that whenever I hear people dumping on the young people for committing the grave crime of being young, I lose all interest. I’m an educator, I love young people. They are the hope, the future, everything great. And they are fantastic, too. And I say this as a mature middle-aged person. 🙂
From a different angle. Why is everybody so sure that whoever did it will lose their job? If I’d be the member of 1% and the employer of those people who did it, I’d give them a bonus for their “lefties, go fuck yourself” attitude.
I don’t think these folks will be fired, either. And as emotional as I am on the subject of unemployment right now, I still think the putative firing of Chicago Stock exchange employees is not the central issue here.
Have you seen the video of Drinking Champagne (link is above)? I can’t believe after watching this video and reading Badtux’s “White Shirts” post about provocations how one can be sure those people will be hurt in any way. If they are fired, I will be very surprised.
Badtux has a point and he isn’t “dumping on the young people”. At all. He wants them to be smarter. US is quite a concervative country (you live in the Bible belt & seen it; yes, big parts are more than “a tad antiquated” as I see it) and those young people should come, but present an image, which’ll attract the most support across the country, including more concervative than them population, which is put off by “hip, cool” and won’t take them seriously. Also the demands should be focused and realistic to have any chance. Getting beaten up won’t help anybody.
Today I read a post/comment (?) how somebody passed near the protestors and didn’t understand what it was all about before checking on Internet at home. They were shouting about police brutality, so he initially thought the course of protests was police’s conduct.
The 1960ies protest movements in the US were, I’d say, about a million times more hip and cool than these ones. And they changed the country completely. Even though, many old-fashioned, terrified of modernity losers grumbled. 🙂
Oh this is so going to backfire on them. I bet the CBoT is going to fire the employees who came up with this and will refute all involvement in this.
Even if it seems pretty tasteless, it is still trolling on an epic scale and one of the cooler ways to loose your occupation.
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*Oh this is so going to backfire on them*
I am not sure. Will something backfire on those people in the video too?
Wall Street Mocks Protesters By Drinking Champagne 2011
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Meant this video:
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Just found this humorous article:
The Case for Using Predator Drone Strikes Against Wall Street Executives:
From a secret Justice Department memorandum obtained by the Rude Pundit
http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2011/10/case-for-using-predator-drone-attacks.html
He refers to Anwar al-Awlaki, an American citizen and imam, who was killed in a drone attack on September 30, 2011 (“the first U.S. citizen to be added to a list of persons approved for targeted killing by the Central Intelligence Agency”).
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Last comment about the topic. This blogger gives all reasons why he is against drone killing Anwar al-Awlaki:
http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2011/09/in-brief-murder-of-anwar-al-awlaki.html
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RE Anwar al-Awlaki, some people found drone killing a citizen controversial:
<i.In short: Al-Awlaki is dead because the President signed a piece of paper saying that he was a bad man. I suspect he probably was a bad man, so it’s hard to be all that broken up about his death. But in theory, the President (or some future president) could sign a piece of paper saying that I’m a bad man too. Wouldn’t it be nice to have some due process about that?
What do you think about the matter?
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How did you get from occupying shit to drone attacks ?
Also, your posting style is very… spammy.
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It was a joke post of a different blogger.
I am sorry for spamming this post, Clarissa, when I posted I kept having problems with it and more than 1 link per post goes to spam.
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I wrote a post for you, el, on this subject: https://clarissasblog.com/2011/10/06/through-the-eyes-of-a-stranger-on-anwar-al-awlaki/
We can take this discussion there. Here, I hoped people would talk about the OWS protests. For now, I’m seeing that 2 people who live outside the US are interested. The American readers don;t seem to want to share their insights. 🙂
I’ll wait for a while longer and write a post about what I think on this issue.
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*Here, I hoped people would talk about the OWS protests.*
I linked to a post in your Weekly Links’ post, which says the protests aren’t efficient.
Personally, I most enjoyed Badtux’s posts on the topic. He sounded very convincing to me.
He has *just* put a new post “White Shirts” with more interesting details: how police owned by Mayor Bloomberg try to provoke “a riot so he can paint the protesters as violent evil people”, but fortunately so far only get put on YouTube.
His another great post on Sept 28 “Why are today’s protests so lame?”
Personally, I blame the anti-war protesters of the 1960′s who think they ended the Vietnam War with their circus and continue to influence tactics. They didn’t end the Vietnam War.
But I mostly got impressed with the contrast between 2 photographs: protestors of today vs the protests led by Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Imo, every activist on Wall Street has to read this 1 most important post and look at the pictures, which are worth 1000 words here. Personally, I read lots of explanations on different blogs, but simple clear writing style combined with pictures did more to me than all 1001 long intelligent explanations in harder language. Look at the beauty:
http://snarkypenguin.blogspot.com/2011/09/game-of-thugs.html
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The post you quote practically says that “mature middle-aged men” do have the right to protest while “hip, cool” young people don’t. I find this position to be a tad antiquated, to be honest.
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I also wanted to add that whenever I hear people dumping on the young people for committing the grave crime of being young, I lose all interest. I’m an educator, I love young people. They are the hope, the future, everything great. And they are fantastic, too. And I say this as a mature middle-aged person. 🙂
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From a different angle. Why is everybody so sure that whoever did it will lose their job? If I’d be the member of 1% and the employer of those people who did it, I’d give them a bonus for their “lefties, go fuck yourself” attitude.
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I don’t think these folks will be fired, either. And as emotional as I am on the subject of unemployment right now, I still think the putative firing of Chicago Stock exchange employees is not the central issue here.
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Have you seen the video of Drinking Champagne (link is above)? I can’t believe after watching this video and reading Badtux’s “White Shirts” post about provocations how one can be sure those people will be hurt in any way. If they are fired, I will be very surprised.
Badtux has a point and he isn’t “dumping on the young people”. At all. He wants them to be smarter. US is quite a concervative country (you live in the Bible belt & seen it; yes, big parts are more than “a tad antiquated” as I see it) and those young people should come, but present an image, which’ll attract the most support across the country, including more concervative than them population, which is put off by “hip, cool” and won’t take them seriously. Also the demands should be focused and realistic to have any chance. Getting beaten up won’t help anybody.
Today I read a post/comment (?) how somebody passed near the protestors and didn’t understand what it was all about before checking on Internet at home. They were shouting about police brutality, so he initially thought the course of protests was police’s conduct.
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The 1960ies protest movements in the US were, I’d say, about a million times more hip and cool than these ones. And they changed the country completely. Even though, many old-fashioned, terrified of modernity losers grumbled. 🙂
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I have no problem with drones, I have problems with murdering people.
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But ALL people, right? NOt just the ones who hold an American passport?
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Absolutely! That’s my main point, in fact!
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Mine, too. 🙂
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