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St. Louis Is Burning

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I had no idea that riots are taking place in St. Louis. This is how segregation works: the black area is like a different world. Seeing a white suburb and a black township next to each other is devastating because it’s like they are from different planets.

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People ask why I’m in favor of affirmative action and reparations. I’m in favor of absolutely anything that has even the slightest chance to change the current racial situation in the United States because it is absolutely, completely, totally horrible and shameful to witness.

Come on, folks, you can’t really believe that something like this is OK.

95 responses to “St. Louis Is Burning”

  1. Stringer Bell Avatar
    Stringer Bell

    It’s just so common for police to kill black people for simply being black. The headlines astonish me.

    Black kid shot by police for ‘moving in a dangerous manner’.
    Black kid shot by police for holding toy gun (in a state where open carry is legal, where white people proudly carry their rifles to Target and Starbucks.

    Contrast the police’s behavior in this situation to what happened with Cliven Bundy’s militia earlier this year. Those people had their guns trained on Federal agents. No problem.

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    1. Clarissa Avatar
      Clarissa

      And it isn’t just the shootings either. I’ve been to East St Louis and I’m horrified. I’m from Ukraine, a third-world country, but I never saw this kind of poverty there. And to have the division between the horrible, unspeakable poverty and incredible riches just next door fall so strictly along racial lines is absolutely shameful. I don’t understand how anybody can see this and not want to do anything, just anything to make this stop.

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      1. Stringer Bell Avatar
        Stringer Bell

        Oh, I bet. The funny thing is the coastal liberals calling middle america backward racists when New York City, the bastion of liberalism, has the most segregated schools in the country. Billionaires on the upper west side living right next to the poor people in Harlem.

        “They just don’t work hard enough”.

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        1. Clarissa Avatar
          Clarissa

          I know! The first time I saw segregation was in the supposedly liberal Connecticut. There I also discovered that it was completely normal for proud, card-carrying Democrats to make viciously racist comments in public and still consider themselves Liberals.

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      2. Shakti Avatar
        Shakti

        And to have the division between the horrible, unspeakable poverty and incredible riches just next door fall so strictly along racial lines is absolutely shameful. I don’t understand how anybody can see this and not want to do anything, just anything to make this stop.

        Because they’ve benefited from generations of this and continue to do so. Because it’s not them. Because if there wasn’t horrible poverty, how virtuous would they feel about being middle class or rich & doing the “right things” or having their ancestors do such things? Because anything else is “communism”. They want the wealth; they do not want the guilt, and they certainly don’t want to do anything about it. Because acknowledging this in a tangible way, reparations or not, would destroy their wealth and their self concept. You couldn’t even begin to pay the compounded interest of generations of theft. Pick a reason, any reason.

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  2. Jules Avatar
    Jules

    Hold the judgement folks…details will unfold.
    Of course it’s sad. I remember Detroit…lootings, fires, and renegrade street gangs…roaming for weeks.
    Motown, one of Americas truly great cities NEVER recovered! I was there yesterday…huge parts of it look like Gaza.

    Observer Jules

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    1. Stringer Bell Avatar
      Stringer Bell

      Details will unfold? Like what? Waiting for the autopsy report to confirm your darkest fears that a 17 year old black kid had the strength of 10 gorillas so he had to be put down?

      Yeah, keep waiting on those details that will finally justify a black kid walking down the street with his friend suddenly ending up getting shot by the police.

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      1. Clarissa Avatar
        Clarissa

        Well, details did unfold in the Trayvon Martin case. The kid once skipped class and engaged in a couple of teenage pranks. Plus, did you know he wore a hoodie? The evildoer! We are all so much safer now that this vicious criminal is off the streets.

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    2. Jules Avatar
      Jules

      It’s good to see the readers of Clarissas’ Blog simmer down a bit on this terrible situation in Ferguson (St. Louis)
      Holding judgement is entirely proper….as the facts continue to unfold.
      After the Police were so horribly maligned for trying to hold the peace….unfortunately upon their withdrawal even more violence and looting, appeared again, last night.
      It must be very scary for the hundreds of good citizens living in that town.
      Sadly,it looks like the only choice to provide a margin of safety for the Blacks & Whites of Ferguson will be to inact Marshal Law and enforced curfews along with a firm National Guard deployment.
      Let us all hope for resolve and justice!

      respectfully, Observer Jules….

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  3. Stille (@aperfectbalance) Avatar
    Stille (@aperfectbalance)

    The way the police has handled the whole situation has been abominable from start to present.

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  4. Jules Avatar
    Jules

    Interestingly …just saw the interview with the guy who was walking with the victim on CNN,
    he said “we were minding our own business, walking down the MIDDLE of the street,
    the cop stopped alongside and told us to walk on the sidewalk”…they refused….then the situation got worse.I guess it’s easy to get in trouble, when you first begin breaking the law, and start mouthing off with authority!
    I’ve travelled, a bit…behind the Iron Curtain, Muslim countries, Japan, all over Europe….
    I’ve lived in Canada and Honduras…yet, I never saw the divide that exists now in America.
    Many Blacks in my neighbourhood choose to avoid the sidewalks altogether and walk down the middle of the road…I guess it’s a way for them to defy the rules…and agravate the folks who abide by them!
    As far as reparations… I don’t think the Blacks could or will ever repay the cost and damages created in American society and in places like Detroit, Newark, Chicago, Cleveland….Riots, looting, murders, vandalism, black on black crime, continue to keep investors away.
    Racism is a two way street…..truth be told, America is doomed unless we can change the way we look at things…..to See the peace one has to Be the peace!

    Observer Jules

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    1. Stringer Bell Avatar
      Stringer Bell

      “I guess it’s easy to get in trouble, when you first begin breaking the law, and start mouthing off with authority!”

      Get in trouble? A warning or a citation for jaywalking perhaps? Oh no, two bullets in the head! That’ll show them uppity negroes to know their place.

      “As far as reparations… I don’t think the Blacks could or will ever repay the cost and damages created in American society”

      I’m sorry, but you sound like an idiot. Are you sure this blog is the right place for you? You’d be better off commenting at stormfront. org or kkk .com.

      If you’re using firefox, click on ‘Bookmarks’ to access those sites. If using IE, click on ‘Favorites’.

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      1. Jules Avatar
        Jules

        Thank you Stringer Bell, you seem to have a handle on all that’s really important to you!

        …..Jules

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        1. Clarissa Avatar
          Clarissa

          The fight against racism is equally important to all of us. When I walk in bizarre places, in the middle of the street, not noticing anything around me, all I get from police officers is smiles, courtesy, and wishes to have a great day. I tend to do that quite often, so I have experience in this area. I also tend to jaywalk a lot, which is a bad habit I learned in Montreal. But for some mysterious reason, when I do it, everybody sees it as cute. I wonder why that is.

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      2. Jules Avatar
        Jules

        In the event that folks on this site become annoyed, angry, upset etc, etc, etc. with what is happening….relax a bit, think things out:

        When any situation arises which tempts you to become disturbed,
        say: “There is another way of looking at this.”
        – A Course In Miracles

        ….respectfully, Observer Jules…

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        1. Clarissa Avatar
          Clarissa

          Michael Brown will never look at this or anything else because he’s dead.

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    2. Stille Avatar
      Stille

      Mouthing off to authorities shouldn’t have dead 17-year-olds as an outcome.

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  5. el Avatar
    el

    \\ all I get from police officers is smiles, courtesy, and wishes to have a great day.

    Would / Does it change, if you speak and they hear your Russian accent?
    Or if somebody looks Jewish / Asian / etc?

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    1. Clarissa Avatar
      Clarissa

      “Would / Does it change, if you speak and they hear your Russian accent?”

      – Everybody thinks it’s a German accent, everybody. And everybody here LOVES Germans because they were the first settlers in the area back in the XIXth century. As to looking Jewish, come on, what does it even mean? None of my Jewish colleagues is visibly identifiable as such. We never see any Hispanics around, although the locals keep saying they see them everywhere. And there are no Asians, even on campus. We are getting more students from Turkey, a few from Pakistan, but not nearly enough yet.

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  6. Stringer Bell Avatar
    Stringer Bell

    “In the event that folks on this site become annoyed, angry, upset etc, etc, etc. with what is happening….relax a bit, think things out”

    [x] Constant use of dime store psychology quotes,
    [x] Passive aggressive speech.

    You, sir, are a clueless dunce.

    With brilliant insights such ‘he had it coming, mouthing off to authority like that’ or ‘blacks can’t make up for all the damage they’ve done to my beautiful country’, perhaps you shouldn’t be giving out advice on how to relax and think things out.

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    1. Clarissa Avatar
      Clarissa

      “With brilliant insights such ‘he had it coming, mouthing off to authority like that’ or ‘blacks can’t make up for all the damage they’ve done to my beautiful country’, perhaps you shouldn’t be giving out advice on how to relax and think things out.”

      – People really think like that, can you believe it? I always find it so baffling that I don’t even know how to address it.

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      1. Stille Avatar
        Stille

        Yes, the damage they’ve done to this beautiful country by walking down the middle of the street and provoking innocent cops into shooting them 10 times.

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        1. Clarissa Avatar
          Clarissa

          “Riots, looting, murders, vandalism, black on black crime, continue to keep investors away.”

          – This has got to be a parody, though. I mean, nobody can say something like this and be serious, right? The part about the investors is particularly powerful.

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      2. Stringer Bell Avatar
        Stringer Bell

        Funny thing is that this kind of thinking can ONLY come about after years and years of constant SEETHING RAGE about welfare mothers, how black people and latinos have it made in modern day america with the gubmint cheese and affirmative action, how the PC police has stifled all free speech so you can’t even say what’s on your mind anymore, etc.

        All that rage, churning inside, about how the country has lost its way. I can feel it from here.

        And he’s posting quotes about calm and serenity. Jesus christ, it’s making me laugh.

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      3. Stille (@aperfectbalance) Avatar
        Stille (@aperfectbalance)

        The world would be so much better if people posted parodies in comment sections of posts dealing with painful subjects rather than unhinged screeds.

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    2. Jules Avatar
      Jules

      Stringer Bell says:
      “clueless dunce” and “dime store psychology quotes”
      You are more articulate than first perceived…night school English classes might be paying off, aferall.
      Hang in there Stringer Bell, Lighten up, Amerika tolerates you and loves you! LOL
      ……observing Stringer Bell……I am, Jules

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      1. Clarissa Avatar
        Clarissa

        “You are more articulate than first perceived…night school English classes might be paying off, aferall.”

        – You did not just seriously write this, did it? Leaving aside the obvious fact that Stringer Bell is a native speaker of English, what can make anybody think that this kind of statement might be well-received on my blog, of all places? Stringer Bell might be a native speaker but I’m not. Are we all still aware of this fact?

        I haven’t had a chance to read the whole discussion yet but I will later on.

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  7. Alexandra Avatar
    Alexandra

    There is white racism and there is black racism.
    White woman in N.Y. was walking out of the store where she bought candy for the kids in Washington Heights vicinity. Black kid dropped a shopping cart on her and her son on purpose. The woman is in coma and community demands the black kid’s immediate release.
    President Obama does not say this woman could have been his mother.

    White woman in N.J. watches cartoons with her two small kids in her house. Two black men get in through the open window, beat her viciously, trash one room, beat her again, keep repeating this over and over. Finally, they think she’s dead, throw her body off the stairs and leave. The woman is in coma. After getting caught, they say that they just wanted to rub the house but then got so mad with this woman because she is rich.
    President Obama does not say this woman could have been his mother.

    Elderly white man in Florida walks to the temple. Two black kids shot and kill him without any confrontation.
    President Obama doesn’t say this man could have been his grandfather.

    Denzel Washington kindly informs the world that he is concerned for the purity of the race, that he is against mixed marriages, and that he would never kiss a white woman except Julia Roberts.
    State Senator Obama, son of the mixed marriage, doesn’t say anything.

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    1. Clarissa Avatar
      Clarissa

      “President Obama does not say this woman could have been his mother.”

      – Of course, he doesn’t. He doesn’t want white supremacists to shoot him in the head if he makes such a statement. Can you imagine what the backlash would be if he said this?

      “After getting caught, they say that they just wanted to rub the house but then got so mad with this woman because she is rich.
      President Obama does not say this woman could have been his mother. Elderly white man in Florida walks to the temple. Two black kids shot and kill him without any confrontation.”

      – All of these criminals are going to jail. The anger against the killers of Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin is inspired by the fact that they will not go to jail. It’s not the murder per se that makes everybody so enraged. Murder exists everywhere, it’s a horrible crime that, tragically, does exist. Rioting or protesting against the existence of crime would be a bizarre thing to do. We all know this. But what angers people right now is that some murderers never get punished.

      It is very strange to me that I have to say such very obvious things.

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    2. Stringer Bell Avatar
      Stringer Bell

      I think Clarissa should create a dedicated post so we can bump it every time a black man kills a white person so that Obama knows.

      OBAMA JOKED, ‘MERICANS CROAKED! 😦

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      1. Clarissa Avatar
        Clarissa

        This happens every time when I try to discuss this subject. It’s like people are not reading what I’m saying. All murderers should go to jail, all of them. The attempts to persuade me that black murderers should go to jail are just bizarre. Of course, they should. Where did I ever suggest otherwise???

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    3. el Avatar
      el

      Looks like some areas of USA need their Truth and Reconciliation Commissions, and some kind of attempt of the government to develop those ghettoized areas.

      \\ The woman is in coma and community demands the black kid’s immediate release.

      People will say black racism doesn’t exist, but, however you call it, black hatred towards whites does seem to exist in some parts of black society. I read Obama’s book, where he talked about it and about the need not to succumb to hard feelings, hurting yourself the most in the end. He hasn’t expressed it this way exactly, but touched on the point.

      \\ – Of course, he doesn’t. He doesn’t want white supremacists to shoot him in the head if he makes such a statement.

      Why would they? I don’t get the logic.
      It’s not like they would ever vote for him anyway.

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      1. Clarissa Avatar
        Clarissa

        “Why would they? I don’t get the logic.”

        – They are not into logic a whole lot, that’s true. But the idea of a black person claiming he understands and feels the horrible suffering of the oppressed and downtrodden whites will drive racists crazy.

        “People will say black racism doesn’t exist, but, however you call it, black hatred towards whites does seem to exist in some parts of black society.”

        – There is no “black hatred towards whites,” come on. And no “black racism.”

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      2. Stringer Bell Avatar
        Stringer Bell

        “black hatred towards whites does seem to exist in some parts of black society.”

        We’re not focusing here on *individual* racism here. It is very different from *institutional* racism. A black man ranting about white people in his living room is much, much different than living in a country where the system itself has been rigged against you from birth.

        Racism = bigotry + power. White racism just happens to have the power of institutions (police, banking, corporate, you name it) behind it.

        If I’m racist to you, all I can do is hurt your feelings. If you’re racist to me, you can prevent me from getting a job, a home loan, stop and frisk me if I’m walking down the street, beat me up for not showing my ID, put bullets in my head if I try to reach for my wallet, pass laws that prevent people like me from voting, etc.

        That’s the difference between black racism and white racism, which, surprise surprise, racists never get. Which is why we see Alexandra crying ‘NOT FAIR’ when President Obama REFUSES (:D) to not hold a 2 hour press conference every time there’s a black person killing a white person.

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        1. Clarissa Avatar
          Clarissa

          “If I’m racist to you, all I can do is hurt your feelings. If you’re racist to me, you can prevent me from getting a job, a home loan, stop and frisk me if I’m walking down the street, beat me up for not showing my ID, put bullets in my head if I try to reach for my wallet, pass laws that prevent people like me from voting, etc.”

          – EXACTLY. And I still don’t understand why this is not screamingly obvious to everybody.

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  8. Alexandra Avatar
    Alexandra

    Speaking of reparations, everyone who is for them should lead us by example.
    Clarissa and Stringer Bell, how much of your after taxes pay you will choose to send to something called, say, Reparation Fund each month?
    And how much money President Obama, as a descendant of slave owners, should pay First Lady Michelle Obama, a descendant of slaves, and to his two daughters?

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    1. Clarissa Avatar
      Clarissa

      “Clarissa and Stringer Bell, how much of your after taxes pay you will choose to send to something called, say, Reparation Fund each month?”

      – I have already answered this question when we discussed reparations on this blog. I’m an immigrant and a descendant of slaves back in Ukraine, and I am absolutely prepared to contribute to a Reparations Fund here in the US, a country of which I am not even a citizen. I would be overjoyed to do that.

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      1. Stringer Bell Avatar
        Stringer Bell

        And I’d do it too, and I ain’t even white!

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    2. el Avatar
      el

      Not reparations for former suffering of one or of one’s ancestors.
      The better, more helpful idea could be development of black areas and help to black people: creating more opportunities for them – may be, special loans to get education or start a small business, positive discrimination in educational institutions, attempting to lower the % of blacks in jails (not arresting a black person, when a white one would go free, most likely).

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      1. Clarissa Avatar
        Clarissa

        “Not reparations for former suffering of one or of one’s ancestors.”

        – It has to be called “reparations.” And not for the “suffering”, which is vague and meaningless but for hard, unpaid labor.

        “creating more opportunities for them – may be, special loans to get education or start a small business, positive discrimination in educational institutions, attempting to lower the % of blacks in jails (not arresting a black person, when a white one would go free, most likely).”

        – And all of this is good, too.

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        1. Clarissa Avatar
          Clarissa

          And the most important thing: the reparations are not for “them.” They are for us. This is not what the black people need, this is what the entire society needs. It’s not normal to live this way, in this hatred and segregation, this is poisoning the air for all of us for me personally. I don’t want to be a kindly benefactor to the black people. I want to be a kindly benefactor to myself. And this is the way to do that, the only way I’m seeing right now.

          Or we could continue segregating.

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  9. Alexandra Avatar
    Alexandra

    “President Obama does not say this woman could have been his mother.”

    – Of course, he doesn’t. He doesn’t want white supremacists to shoot him in the head if he makes such a statement. Can you imagine what the backlash would be if he said this?

    Clarissa, there would be no backlash at all. There were no backlash when he said that black kid could have been his son. He was elected twice, obviously everyone knew he is mixed.
    Are you saying white supremacists didn’t know his mother was white?
    Do you really believe that President of the US is afraid of the supremacists or any other fringe group?

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      Clarissa

      “Do you really believe that President of the US is afraid of the supremacists or any other fringe group?”

      – Everybody is. They are very scary. I had a colleague who was terrorized by one of them on campus for months for being Jewish. Nobody could do anything about it.

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  10. Shakti Avatar
    Shakti

    Clarissa: I wonder if you’d be getting these WHAT ABOUT MY FEELINGS posts if you hadn’t mentioned reparations or affirmative action. Probably. Compartmentalization and projection are very strong psychological defenses.

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      Clarissa

      “Clarissa: I wonder if you’d be getting these WHAT ABOUT MY FEELINGS posts if you hadn’t mentioned reparations or affirmative action. Probably. Compartmentalization and projection are very strong psychological defenses.”

      – Yes, I guess you are right, it’s the guilt speaking or, rather, screaming to the skies. This is why I keep saying that the reparations will help, first and foremost, the white Americans. And the black people will do us all a kindness by accepting. I am absolutely convinced of this. But that might be because I’m an outsider and don’t carry this guilt around with me. To me this is just logical and obvious.

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  11. el Avatar
    el

    // – There is no “black hatred towards whites,” come on.

    What I meant is feeling of anger and hopelessness – “I’ll be discriminated against since I’m black, so no reason to try” –

    “And I think that one of the things — this is true not just for Native Americans, but it’s also true for African Americans. Sometimes African Americans, in communities where I’ve worked, there’s been the notion of “acting white” — which sometimes is overstated, but there’s an element of truth to it, where, okay, if boys are reading too much, then, well, why are you doing that? Or why are you speaking so properly? And the notion that there’s some authentic way of being black, that if you’re going to be black you have to act a certain way and wear a certain kind of clothes, that has to go. (Applause.) Because there are a whole bunch of different ways for African American men to be authentic.”
    http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/07/21/remarks-president-my-brothers-keeper-town-hall

    Btw, Obama mentioned Jews

    ” You need to know your culture, but you can also be part of this larger world.

    And there are some cultures, frankly, who’ve done this better than others. I do think, for example, Jewish culture has been very powerful. If you look in our society, the ability to transmit traditions through synagogues and the Torah and bar mitzvahs and bat mitzvahs, so that people have a sense of 2,000 years of history, but everybody is still part of today and America and the world.”

    🙂

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    1. Clarissa Avatar
      Clarissa

      “What I meant is feeling of anger and hopelessness – “I’ll be discriminated against since I’m black, so no reason to try” –”

      – And on no planet can this be considered racism, right?

      “And there are some cultures, frankly, who’ve done this better than others. I do think, for example, Jewish culture has been very powerful. If you look in our society, the ability to transmit traditions through synagogues and the Torah and bar mitzvahs and bat mitzvahs, so that people have a sense of 2,000 years of history, but everybody is still part of today and America and the world.””

      – he really knows how to work those donors, doesn’t he? 🙂

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      1. el Avatar
        el

        // – And on no planet can this be considered racism, right?

        Right.

        But in cases of racially motivated black-on-white crime, which Alexandra mentioned, I don’t know which other word to use. I don’t say such cases are numerous (I don’t know in which % of cases the victim would’ve been hurt less or not at all, had s/he been black too), but when they do happen, how would you call that?

        // – Everybody is. They are very scary. I had a colleague who was terrorized by one of them on campus for months for being Jewish. Nobody could do anything about it.

        Because police doesn’t care about protecting Jews or/and college is so against calling police, the colleague was afraid of hurting his career, had s/he called them?

        Were those physical attacks?

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          Clarissa

          “Because police doesn’t care about protecting Jews or/and college is so against calling police, the colleague was afraid of hurting his career, had s/he called them?

          Were those physical attacks?”

          – Because of freedom of speech. As long as he was just threatening, apparently it was not against the law. The police was there the entire time but it can’t prosecute speech. All it can do is shoot at unarmed, non-threatening kids. The armed and threatening ones are off limits.

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  12. Alexandra Avatar
    Alexandra

    I think Clarissa should create a dedicated post so we can bump it every time a black man kills a white person so that Obama knows.

    OBAMA JOKED, ‘MERICANS CROAKED! 😦

    Stringer Bell, which part is funny for you, two white women in coma or our President being half-white?

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      Stringer Bell

      The part where Secret Muslim Barry Hussein hates america so much that ordered our troops to STAND DOWN while terrorists were killing americans in BENGHAZI! Where he said some nice things about Trayvon Martin that racists immediately interpreted as a RACIALLY DIVISIVE ATTACK on them. I don’t know Alexandra, there’s so much to laugh about.

      You’re an idiot.

      el: I can’t help but notice that this dunce was your biggest supporter in that Israel thread. With friends like these, huh? 🙂

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  13. Alexandra Avatar
    Alexandra

    ” You need to know your culture, but you can also be part of this larger world.

    – he really knows how to work those donors, doesn’t he? 🙂
    This sounds very condescending to me. Just imagine him saying that to the group of Hispanic or Chinese donors.

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      Clarissa

      “This sounds very condescending to me. Just imagine him saying that to the group of Hispanic or Chinese donors.”

      – I never claimed to be a huge fan of Obama’s.

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  14. Alexandra Avatar
    Alexandra

    “Do you really believe that President of the US is afraid of the supremacists or any other fringe group?”

    – Everybody is. They are very scary. I had a colleague who was terrorized by one of them on campus for months for being Jewish. Nobody could do anything about it.

    This blows. How did he found out that your colleague was Jewish? And how did it end?

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    Alexandra

    The part where Secret Muslim Barry Hussein hates america so much that ordered our troops to STAND DOWN while terrorists were killing americans in BENGHAZI! Where he said some nice things about Trayvon Martin that racists immediately interpreted as a RACIALLY DIVISIVE ATTACK on them. I don’t know Alexandra, there’s so much to laugh about.

    You’re an idiot.

    Stringer Bell, buddy, I feel for you. It must be so hard for you to read this blog just because some people dare to disagree with you.
    But you always come back, all poised and determined to educate us, dunces and idiots, to make us better members of the society built by our ancestors.
    Do you hate our President because you think that he is a secret Muslim? Or you just hate his policies?
    By the way, how about fighting anti-Muslim racism in your birth country, India?
    Do you call your relatives dunces and idiots for their treatment of their Muslim neighbors?

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  16. Jules Avatar
    Jules

    My city is Great Lakes, Rust Belt USA….I left here in the mid 60’s, there was full employment, civic pride, hard working middle class folks buying houses and cars, sending their kids to college, hoping for a 3 week vacation in Florida and a retirement pension. Poor Blacks and poor Whites were coming here from the bigoted South and making a great life for themselves
    .
    Upon returning to America in 2008, I found a very different country. Staggering unemployment, drug addiction, murder & crime in the streets, corporate greed, Black Rap lyrics targeting whites, all authority and the dengration of women, and …….America at war, .on several continents

    My question is:
    What happened?
    Have the Stringer Bells been working hard enough to combat racism while I was gone?
    Would things have been better to “not” have a half white President, but instead elect someone 100% Black like a Jessie Jackson or Rev. Al Sharpton? Just wondering.
    I missed the Trial of the Century ( I was living in Honduras)
    The headline was: “Simpson Walks Free” from double murder.
    Was it true that the whites were afraid to protest the injustice of a slain White women and a slain White man, finding no justice, is that where it all started?
    There seems to be a bigger picture here (about America) than some on this blog are willing to admit to.

    respectfully, Observer Jules….

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      Stringer Bell

      “Staggering unemployment, drug addiction, murder & crime in the streets, corporate greed, Black Rap lyrics targeting whites, all authority and the dengration of women, and …….America at war, .on several continents ”

      I feel your pain. Did you hear that President Obama is personally escorting a ebola-ridden brown Muslim child across the border to take your place? When will this madness end? 😦 Thanks OBOLA!

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      Clarissa

      “Upon returning to America in 2008, I found a very different country. Staggering unemployment, drug addiction, murder & crime in the streets, corporate greed, Black Rap lyrics targeting whites, all authority and the dengration of women”

      – As a woman, I can gladly assure everybody that all of the rap lyrics in the world cannot compare to the horrifying situation of women in the 1960s America. Not being able to get an education and a job is a lot more denigrating than some song. 🙂

      “Would things have been better to “not” have a half white President, but instead elect someone 100% Black like a Jessie Jackson or Rev. Al Sharpton? Just wondering.”

      – It would be better to forget expressions like “half white” altogether because, surely, we are more evolved than this.

      “The headline was: “Simpson Walks Free” from double murder.
      Was it true that the whites were afraid to protest the injustice of a slain White women and a slain White man, finding no justice, is that where it all started?”

      – Yes, that was a travesty. Just like Trayvon Martin’s trial was a travesty.

      ‘ left here in the mid 60’s, there was full employment”

      – Seriously??? All women worked?? Wow. I mean, I wasn’t there, so I wouldn’t know but are you entirely sure? Full employment of women? What an interesting city that was.

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    Alexandra

    “Staggering unemployment, drug addiction, murder & crime in the streets, corporate greed, Black Rap lyrics targeting whites, all authority and the dengration of women, and …….America at war, .on several continents ”

    I feel your pain. Did you hear that President Obama is personally escorting a ebola-ridden brown Muslim child across the border to take your place? When will this madness end? 😦 Thanks OBOLA!

    Stringer Bell, what part of the country you’re living in, and how long have you been here? And again, being an American, hating all those racists here, how do you help make things better in India where some of your family still lives?
    How did you vote in 2008 and 2012?

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  18. Alexandra Avatar
    Alexandra

    “The headline was: “Simpson Walks Free” from double murder.
    Was it true that the whites were afraid to protest the injustice of a slain White women and a slain White man, finding no justice, is that where it all started?”

    – Yes, that was a travesty. Just like Trayvon Martin’s trial was a travesty.

    Clarissa, O.J. Simpson abused his wife for many years, beat her in private and in front of others, threw her out of the car, threatened to kill her, threatened to cut of her throat and the throat of any guy who will be her lover. She was telling people that he will kill her and will get away with murder by using his fame and popularity.
    He ended up doing just what he promised and he did get away.
    It was a planned murder.
    Zimmerman didn’t beat Martin for years, didn’t promise to cut his or anyone else’s throat or do any other harm. It was a manslaughter.
    I don’t know how people don’t see the difference.

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    1. Stringer Bell Avatar
      Stringer Bell

      Stop. Just stop.

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        Stringer Bell

        View post on imgur.com

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      Clarissa

      Victims are dead in both cases and the murderers roam free in both cases, as well. The only difference is that one of the victims chose to have a relationship with her eventual murderer and the other one didn’t. To me, this is a very minor difference when contrasted with the similarities.

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  19. Alexandra Avatar
    Alexandra

    Stringer Bell, you’re a troll. You called me an idiot, suggested something that looks like an open grave as my new internet home, refused to answer any of my questions.
    You are so secretive about yourself, so careful not to let people know anything about you. What are you so afraid of?

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      Clarissa

      He’s not afraid of anything. He simply knows that I do not like the limelight to be taken off me on my own blog. It makes me antsy and irate. And I’m scary in those states. 🙂

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      Stringer Bell

      ” suggested something that looks like an open grave as my new internet home”

      Digging a hole. Does that ring a bell, you utter imbecile?

      See, this is why I don’t wish to engage with you. You are an idiot, and the sooner you realize this the better. Is english your first language? You seem to have a very tenuous grasp of it and I feel embarrassed for you. You ask these fox news type race baiting questions like “why didn’t Obama say something when that black man murdered a white person” which suggests you’re very dim. We’ve explained to you, if you read carefully, why such arguments are ill-informed. This is very basic stuff, man.

      It is not my responsibility to teach you. Crack open a few books, read some history, basically *anything* other than Drudge or Rush Limbaugh or fox news or freerepublic, and then perhaps we can have a discussion. But you’ll have to do the work. I’m not going to do it for you.

      Until then, you’ll just have to deal with intelligent people laughing at your stoopid little racist ass. If being called a racist hurts your feelings i suggest you stop being one.

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    b g

    “the horrifying situation of women in the 1960s America.”

    Really, are women happier today ;-D

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      Clarissa

      I’m sure you know women who were adults in the sixties. You can always ask them. I know a few from that generation, they are nothing short of ecstatic about the changes that transpired since 1960s. Of course, my reference group can always be biased because like attracts like. 🙂

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        b g

        LOL, I was there. About a third of working class women typically went back to work as the children grew older. Most middle class women did not, although I had aunt that worked part time as a teacher and a nurse. Many professionals were spinsters. Most upper class had hired at least some help. I guess it depended upon your class.

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  21. Alexandra Avatar
    Alexandra

    Stringer Bell, you need help and you need it fast.
    I bet none of your co-workers would believe all this hatred and vitriol coming from such a reserved, polite Indian programmer.

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      Stringer Bell

      digging-hole.jpg.

      Couldn’t help yourself, could you? 🙂

      If you had a modicum of intelligence and self-awareness you’d realize that you’re making my point for me every time you open your mouth.

      Polite indian programmer! HA!

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  22. Stringer Bell Avatar
    Stringer Bell

    Man, this Alexandra woman is so witty! Let’s imagine her riposte if I had told her I was from some other country.

    Pakistan:
    I bet none of your co-workers would believe all this hatred and vitriol coming from such a reserved, polite Pakistani cab driver.

    China:
    I bet none of your co-workers would believe all this hatred and vitriol coming from such a reserved, polite Chinese laundry shop owner.

    Korea:
    I bet none of your co-workers would believe all this hatred and vitriol coming from such a reserved, polite Korean worker at a nail salon.

    Cringe cringe cringe.

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      Clarissa

      At least, the stereotype about an Indian immigrant is that he is a polite programmer. I have a vague suspicion that the stereotype of a Ukrainian immigrant is a loud-mouthed mail-order bride.

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  23. Alexandra Avatar
    Alexandra

    Clarissa, I was born and raised in New York City. My mother and both of my grandmothers worked as nurses.

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  24. Alexandra Avatar
    Alexandra

    Stringer Bell, in case you’ve already forgotten, you wrote that you came from India and your relatives still live there now.

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      Stringer Bell

      You’re too dumb to realize when you say dumb things. 🙂

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  25. Alexandra Avatar
    Alexandra

    Clarissa, when you have company over, do you enjoy one guest calling another an idiot and an utter imbecile?
    I suspect you don’t. Stringer Bell and me are both your guests here. How come you still didn’t ban him?

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    1. Stringer Bell Avatar
      Stringer Bell

      Don’t forget, I also called you a racist and a dunce.

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    2. Clarissa Avatar
      Clarissa

      Because I really, really like him. But I really like you, as well.

      There are readers who can say anything they want and I will never mind because I have a soft spot for them. This gives them both freedom and responsibility.

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  26. Alexandra Avatar
    Alexandra

    That’s a good explanation, Clarissa.
    Since I can say anything I want, without any concern, just like him, here we go:
    Stringer Bell, you’re a black racist, a complete idiot, sexist pig, you hate women so much cause your Mama was on crack/cocaine while pregnant. You came here to my country, you hate it so much, get the hell out back to India or any other place where they’ll take trash like you.

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      Stringer Bell

      Haha.

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      Clarissa

      What is this? Can I get no love on my own blog? Let’s talk about ME already! 🙂

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      1. Stringer Bell Avatar
        Stringer Bell

        You don’t rile up racists as well as I do. It’s not hard, though. Just call them ‘racist’ and they unravel like a fucked sweater.

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          Clarissa

          I have to say, folks, the fucked sweater is winning this thread. I’ve got nothing on that. The polite Indian programmers were also stellar. My husband and I have been heaving with laughter over the polite Indian programmers. I now have to go share the fucked sweater with him.

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  27. Alexandra Avatar
    Alexandra

    That applies to everyone else, black, brown, white, Asian, Irish, Democrats, Republicans, conservatives, liberals, born here, immigrants, women, men, rich or poor, smart or dumb.
    When it comes to America, everyone and their Mama has an opinion.
    It’s that simple, you don’t like it, get the hell out and take Clintons, Bushes, and Obamas with you.

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      Stringer Bell

      Such nuanced opinion. You’re really giving a good account of yourself right now.

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  28. Alexandra Avatar
    Alexandra

    It’s called pulled sweater, you dumb ass.
    When will you take your “stoopid little racist ass” out of my country?

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  29. David Gendron Avatar
    David Gendron

    Affirmative action is racist.

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    1. b g Avatar
      b g

      Always was…and generally greedily sexist too. What can I say ;-D

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      1. David Gendron Avatar
        David Gendron

        Yeah, it’s sexist too.

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  30. Alexandra Avatar
    Alexandra

    Man, this Alexandra woman is so witty! Let’s imagine her riposte if I had told her I was from some other country.

    – Still no “riposte” from Stringer Bell. I take it he took his meds and decided to keep his “stoopid little racist ass” in our awful country.

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    el

    Book Review: The New Jim Crow
    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/daylightatheism/2014/01/book-review-the-new-jim-crow/

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    el

    In case you like the post / blog

    HELTER SKELTER: CONNECTING SOME OF THE DOTS OF WHITE SUPREMACIST VIOLENCE

    Helter Skelter: connecting some of the dots of white supremacist violence

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    Jules

    In regards to my post/reponse for Stringer Bells insults towards me

    Clarissa writes: – “You did not just seriously write this, did it? Leaving aside the obvious fact that Stringer Bell is a native speaker of English, what can make anybody think that this kind of statement might be well-received on my blog, of all places? Stringer Bell might be a native speaker but I’m not. Are we all still aware of this fact?
    I haven’t had a chance to read the whole discussion yet but I will later on

    Jules observation of Stringer Bell: “You are more articulate than first perceived…night school English classes might be paying off, aferall.”

    Seriously, Clarissa…did you overlook the LOL at the ending of my response.?

    Stringer Bell loves to make insults towards your readers and you admitted that you liked that, remember ?

    “There are readers who can say anything they want and I will never mind because I have a soft spot for them. This gives them both freedom and responsibility.
    larissa said about Stringer Bell ”
    It’s ok Clarissa, all will lighten up abit, after you have a few classes under your belt.

    Now HERE is where I was coming from on Stringer Bell and his writing….he phrases very much ike my Pakistani Dentist does, complete with abusive language! LOL

    observing is what I do, hugs and kisses, Jules

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      Clarissa

      “Stringer Bell loves to make insults towards your readers and you admitted that you liked that, remember ?”

      – What is “that” exactly in this context? When did I admit anything of the kind? Are we still on the same blog?

      “It’s ok Clarissa, all will lighten up abit, after you have a few classes under your belt.Now HERE is where I was coming from on Stringer Bell and his writing….he phrases very much ike my Pakistani Dentist does, complete with abusive language! LOL”

      – I have absolutely no idea what you are trying to say. Who is Ike? What is the verb between “he” and “phrases”? Which classes are you talking about? What do dentists have to do with any of this?

      The questions do not require an answer because the thread is long as it is.

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