A Russian – speaking blogger wrote that a religious feeling that can be hurt or offended is worthless.
I agree with this statement completely. The faith that exists on the same plane with cartoons, movies, ads, etc is no faith at all. It’s an identity – building set of superstitions that, for primitive human beings, stands in place of a meaningful relationship between a human being and a philosophy of life, death and the meaning of existence (aka religion).
“Don’t insult my religion,” are the words of somebody who has never even been in the same time zone with an actual religious feeling.
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It is a moral and intellectual blind spot common to most liberals. They are so sure of their moral and intellectual superiority that it is impossible for them to insult others, or be close minded, intolerant or ignorant. They’re politically correct, dontchya know!
So I assume the Charlie Hebdo massacre was misunderstanding of proper leftist semantics then? Well then – pish tosh! All is forgiven, right? Let the great liberal multicultural experiment continue!
And 5 seconds after it fails for good, we will start the third expulsion of Islam from the west.
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Glenfilthie : your comment makes zero sense. You are ranting incomprehensibly.
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This rally in Paris seems like a joke. Led by war criminal journalist-murdering Netanyahu, Turkish PM Erdogan, the Saudis?
Almost every leader marching today in Paris will go back to their country tomorrow and demand even more restrictions on free speech.
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I don’t understand… can you explain more?(tried to read the article.. not in English!!!! lol). You are trying to say that if you actually have religion than you can’t be offended in regards to that religion? Or are you arguing that religion is a poor substitute for a “real” philosophy and viewpoint on light? Not sure which you are arguing. BTW.. how do you religiously identify.. don’t think I really know where you are coming from in religious beliefs which obviously will inform the message you ae trying to convey.
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My view is that people who are secure in their beliefs don’t care what others who don’t share those beliefs think.
I believe the earth revolves around the sun. People who have visions of stacks of turtles supporting the universe or who believe the earth is hollow with the sun in the middle are welcome to their beliefs and they have no effect whatsoever on mine.
People who are insecure in their beliefs are driven to incoherent desperate rage by unbelief or differing beliefs and want things like blasphemy laws to make non-belifef a crime.
The dirty big secret of the muslim world is that belief there is very fragile (this is straight from the muslims I know and from available sources). The fundamentalist freaks who kill people are trying to turn back a tide of religious indifference rather than ride a wave of pious masses.
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“My view is that people who are secure in their beliefs don’t care what others who don’t share those beliefs think.”
“People who are insecure in their beliefs are driven to incoherent desperate rage by unbelief or differing beliefs and want things like blasphemy laws to make non-belifef a crime.”
“The fundamentalist freaks who kill people are trying to turn back a tide of religious indifference rather than ride a wave of pious masses.”
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People who are insecure in their beliefs are driven to incoherent desperate rage by unbelief or differing beliefs and want things like blasphemy laws to make non-belifef a crime.
Do you include people who aggressively evangelize and send missionaries out? Or people in the US who want creationism taught in schools and center tiresome political debates around what the Bible says? Because to me they all seem super desperate in their beliefs and are an Overton window shift from demanding blasphemy laws.
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“Do you include people who aggressively evangelize and send missionaries out?”
Neither evangelizing or supporting missionaries by itself really qualifies (it’s natural if you think you have the Truth to want to share it, but some turn weird and aggressive when others aren’t …. receptive).
“Or people in the US who want creationism taught in schools and center tiresome political debates around what the Bible says?”
Those people, yeah. Once they want laws around their religion they’re officially icky.
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I’m a Christian. I don’t belong to any religious institution and detest all organized religion. My belief is very profound and happens at such a level where nothing and nobody can touch it. The idea that anybody could draw a cartoon that would be able to reach such a profound and real sentiment is bizarre.
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I think I get Clarissa’s point: The sorts of experiences and thoughts that undergird deep faith should be so meaningful to one that you shouldn’t even care what other people think.
Sort of related, a link from this morning: https://philebersole.wordpress.com/2015/01/11/religion-and-the-burden-of-proof/
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“The sorts of experiences and thoughts that undergird deep faith should be so meaningful to one that you shouldn’t even care what other people think.”
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As a very religious person, I have to say that this is among the smartest things you’ve said on this blog. Anyone who is offended on behalf of their god has a very, very small god indeed.
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