Let’s Not Mess It Up

The poll finds Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton ahead of Trump by just 6 points, a dramatic tightening since July.

We are practically being handed this election, people. Now is the time to end all silliness, rally around Hillary, and win the election. It’s a really great moment.

26 thoughts on “Let’s Not Mess It Up

  1. You’re assuming that Hillary isn’t going to be in federal prison on election night for her mishandling of classified material…

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    1. Oh, come on. Nobody cares about this boring old story. All it does is show how squeaky clean Hillary is if nobody could find anything more exciting on her.

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      1. The FBI cares about it. If it turns out that she carelessly gave away state secrets to Russian or Chinese hackers, Hillary might even end up like Julius and Ethel Rosenberg back in the 1950’s. πŸ™‚

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              1. How about if we compromise between those two extremes, and just give her a rocking chair at the Old Goldwater Girls’ Home?

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  2. I don’t know. If Clinton can’t beat a 73 year old socialist to become the Democratic nominee, what are the changes of her winning a national election? I like Clinton perfectly well and think she will be a strong president. But nobody likes her. Not even Democrats. I am concerned that she can’t win and we will have one of the Republican nightmares as president.

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    1. Of course, she will be the Democratic nominee. Bernie is fun but he’s as ready to be president as I am to be a ballerina.

      It would help if people started to realize that Bernie is not a serious candidate as soon as possible.

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      1. You are right. Clinton will be the nominee. I guess I should have written “If Clinton struggles to beat a 73 year old socialist to secure the Democratic nomination, what are the chances that she can win the national election?” Clinton should be easily beating Sanders and she’s not. On a national scale, I personally think Martin O’Malley seems the most electable. But for some reason, he’s not garnering any attention.

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          1. If Hillary’s candidacy implodes (and I don’t think it’ s going to at this point), I’d be willing to bet that the Democratic nominee will be either Joe Biden (seated vice presidents have almost always gotten the nomination, if they wanted it), or Secretary of State John Kerry. The Democrats will select somebody they think has a chance of winning the national election — and O’Malley and Webb won’t make the cut.

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            1. “Bernie is fun but he’s as ready to be president as I am to be a ballerina.”

              I have more confidence in Sanders’s foreign policy ability than you do and really do love his politics in general. But, though I sort of hate to say it, my biggest issue with Sanders is his age. I think that any candidate should be viable for two terms. So if elected (a gigantic long shot of course), he will be 75 at the beginning of his term and that would put him at 79 at the beginning of a second term and 83 at the end of of his presidency.

              Is that truly an optimal age for an extraordinarily difficult and taxing job? Further, will voters elect a 75 year old? A 79 year old? I know that people are living longer these days but he just seems to be a bit too old for the position of POTUS.

              And, on a completely different note, I think it undermines the cause for social security. I can imagine an argument going “If someone can be president until 83, then 79 should be the new retirement age!” Perhaps I’m being superficial or shortsighted but, despite my admiration of his politics, Sanders’ age continues to be a sticking point for me

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              1. He’s planning to talk Putin out of using fossil fuels because they are bad for the environment. That’s not foreign policy ability. That’s ignorance of the kind my students exhibit when they say that the US invaded Spain in 711. This is more ignorant than “let’s get Mexico pay for the wall.”

                And if Sanders is so uninformed about the largest country on Earth, what are the chances he knows anything at all about less significant places?

                There is nothing more dangerous in foreign affairs than this very American hubris of “people everywhere in the world are obligated to be the way I imagine them because I’m such a center of the universe.”

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              2. But, though I sort of hate to say it, my biggest issue with Sanders is his age. I think that any candidate should be viable for two terms.

                While I appreciate your point about age, pretty much every candidate on either side is old, old, old. Look at how many of these candidates are either above retirement age, or would be retirement age very soon. This is a race of old people running against each other, which is why nobody is trying to look young.

                The young candidates are Rubio, Jindal and Cruz and Walker. If you’re concerned, you look to their habits and to their genetics. This is why I wasn’t too concerned about McCain’s longevity despite his numerous injuries.

                It looks good for Clinton and Trump. It doesn’t look so good for Sanders whose parents both died young. But then again he seems pretty spry and on the ball and his older brother seems healthy.

                As for the mental issues, several of the Republican candidates concern me. Perry, Walker and Trilogy seem distressingly stupid and unable to think on their feet.

                What a neat irony: the election in which the Millennials outnumber every other voting group is likely going to be a referendum on 20th century (if a Bush or Clinton gets the nomination) fought between two old people.

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      2. “It would help if people started to realize that Bernie is not a serious candidate as soon as possible.”

        If Bernie is the nominee, I will vote for him and work for his campaign. If he is not, I will vote for the Green Party candidate as an investment in the future of our nation. The Democrats and Republicans are both out of touch, generally.

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        1. And then we’ll have a replay of the Gore – Bush campaign where Ralph Nader took away Gore’s votes and we got saddled with Bush for the next 8 years. That was such a brilliant strategy (sarcasm).

          When will the progressive voters in this country get to realize that these periodic appearances of “alternative” candidates like Sanders or Nader never lead to anything but Republican victories.

          The biggest flaw of the Dems is this belief in a wacky alternative.

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          1. Good point. Imagine if the new Nader figure will give us another Bush. That will make us all look ridiculous.

            I can’t believe that the Dems are ready to piss away such an easy success for a silly experiment in cheap, shallow populism.

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            1. -You forget that Nader ran as a 3rd party candidate. Bernie is not running as a 3rd party candidate and I don’t think he will. To assume that Nader cost Gore the White House is to assume those same voters would have voted for him instead of staying home or voting for Bush. I don’t think that’s a valid assumption.

              Gore lost his home state: what kind of weak sauce Presidential candidate loses their home state? Kerry, McCain, Romney all carried their home states. Obama carried his home state, both times. Shrub carried his home state. Even Mondale and Dukakis and Ford carried their home states.

              -Bush family nepotism. Have you forgotten Jeb’s role in this?

              -Voter fraud, lots of voter fraud.

              The solution is for the Democratic candidate to be as appealing as possible. Gore was a conservative Democrat who ran as far as he could from a successful President by picking moral scold Joe Lieberman who also went on to endorse McCain. Lieberman now currently is with the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative think tank.

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              1. I liked Gore. I thought he was super cute. But I was very lonely at that time, so I’m not reliable.

                Sorry, it’s too hot here for me to produce anything more insightful. But I still dig Gore.

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  3. “If it turns out that she carelessly gave away state secrets to Russian or Chinese hackers, Hillary might even end up like Julius and Ethel Rosenberg back in the 1950’s”

    You fucking idiots have been fed a series of nothingburgers by Fox news all your life and still haven’t figured out you’ve been taken for a ride. Let’s see, we have Whitewater, Vince Foster murder, ACORN, Black panthers roaming around polling booths, Obama’s birth certificate, IRS TARGETING Tea Party patriots, BENGHAZI, Planned Parenthood.

    Each and every one of these ‘scandals’ fizzled out. But will you listen? No, you’ll instead keep watching news programs sponsored by companies that will sell you doomsday survival gear and companies that will buy your gold.

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    1. Hurricane Sandy (that changed everything!), Solyndra, ebola, invasion of brown immigrant children, ground zero mosque, national debt, death panels…

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    1. Stringer Bell, your cartoons are entertaining, but your opinions are as full of shit as an ungutted Christmas turkey!

      The reason the Clintons and Obama have gotten away with all these situations — Monica Lewinsky, Whitewater, ACORN, IRS targeting, Benghazi, claiming “dead broke” while channeling vast “charity” denotations to their own political organization, and now flaunting classified e-mail laws because they think the rules don’t apply to them — is because 1) the Republican legislatures in power during their administrations have been incredibly incompetent, and 2) the Clinton and Obama Departments of (In)Justice have been lawlessly partisan in their selective enforcement of the laws.

      As for watching Fox News all my life: That channel didn’t come on the air until 1996, when I was at the ripe old age of 51. Prior to the fairly recent onset of the cable news programs, I watched the broadcast channel Sunday morning talk shows (still do), now mixed with Fox News (admittedly conservative bias), CNN (tries to be neutral, a bit left of center), and MSNBC (batshit crazy lefty psycho, good for comedy relief). And of course I get my daily dose of cynical realism from all those endless LAW & ORDER reruns. (Pretty balanced viewing, wouldn’t you say?)

      No hard feelings, young man. Sleep well tonight.

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      1. The reason the Clintons and Obama have gotten away with all these situations β€” Monica Lewinsky, Whitewater, ACORN, IRS targeting, Benghazi, claiming β€œdead broke” while channeling vast β€œcharity” denotations to their own political organization, and now flaunting classified e-mail laws because they think the rules don’t apply to them…

        Are you serious? Really?

        Man, I need a stiff drink right now…

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