First, we heard that Bernie Sanders was a white supremacist, and now it turns out he’s a misogynist. There is obviously no proof but rumor has it that some fragile flowers have had to take to their fainting couches after Bernie’s supporters addressed them. No, seriously:
I have increasingly been hearing from people, especially women, that they don’t feel like they can express support for Hillary Clinton without getting shit for it from Sanders supporters. That is so upsetting to me. And if the fact that so many women I know are, quite understandably, intimidated to publicly support Clinton doesn’t speak to the misogyny on which Sanders is trading, I don’t know what would.
If women are intimidated into silence by Bernie’s supporters – an inoffensive bunch if I ever saw one – what better argument do you need that a female Commander in Chief will not be able to function properly?
People keep talking about Victorian women, but I read a lot of Victorian literature, and this kind of fragility was unknown in that era.
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“I’m offended that you’re offended over someone else’s thinkpiece about being not/offended and that I’m not offended enough/ too offended?”
Ok, I’m going to lay down now and collapse into a Goldilocks wormhole of feelings.
Incidentally, I get the impression Clinton herself is much tougher than her fragile supporters.
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It’s isn’t that McEwan (Shakesville) is really all that offended at Bernie — although she stays offended about just about everything — she’s been terrified for months that he might actually be a serious threat to Hillary.
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Hilarious! You put the story in the right perspective.
However, misogynist and white supremacist are ugly accusations. We should not allow American politics to descend into slanderous whispering campaigns. Unfounded rumors are difficult to stop. They can persist and discredit both the people who feed rumors and the targets of rumor.
Wouldn’t it be sad if we end up with a President Trump because overzealous supporters of Bernie and Hillary resort to silly whispering campaigns and muddy the waters.
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I know! It’s ridiculous how far people take this. As if there weren’t enough actual racists and sexists in this campaign, we’ve got to pile on Bernie? That’s idiotic.
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Many swedes are interested in the elections in the US – we can’t vote (maybe we ought to have a 100 part or 1000 part of a vote each – because when USA sneezes, Sweden gets the flu. But most swedes don’t even know who Sanders is and what he stands for. A woman friend, who calls herself communist, expressed sympathy for a politician out of a single quote. She didn’t know that he had closing down welfare on his agenda, food-stamps and all…
But everybody knows Hillary, and thinks that after a black MAN it is the turn for a woman! Women can be good warlords – Indira Gandhi, Golda Meir and Margret Thatcher – whooping the Argentinian fascist junta’s ass big time, taking back the Falkland islands and in the process liberating the Argentinians from the junta, that toppled soon after. In Swedish history we have a couple of noble ladies, that defended the home castle when their hubbies were out fighting – and dying. The Celtic queen Boadicea took a good revenge on the Roman occupying forces, killing a lot of them and burning their stronghold London. And Jeanne d’Arc, and so on.
Condoleezza Rice did wall, as far as I remember.
I hope Bernie Sanders won’t have a kind of Ralph Nader effect “In the 2000 presidential election in Florida, George W. Bush defeated Al Gore by 537 votes. Nader received 97,421 votes, which led to claims that he was responsible for Gore’s defeat. Nader, both in his book Crashing the Party and on his website, states: “In the year 2000, exit polls reported that 25% of my voters would have voted for Bush, 38% would have voted for Gore and the rest would not have voted at all.””
A thing like that could put the dynamic duo Trump and Sarah Palin in the White House – I don’t like the thought of Palin fingering that box that could launch 6000 nuclear warheads. Another thing would be a spectacular terrorist attack on US soil.
Maybe her forgiving(?) her husband his philandering could be a positive thing, not the other way? Things like that have been known to happen in a home or two.
Blaming it all on the girl…
“Devil Woman”
I told Mary about us.
I told her about our great sin.
Mary cried and forgave me,
Then Mary took me back again,
Said if I wanted my freedom
I could be free ever more.
But I don’t want to be,
And I don’t want to see
Mary cry anymore.
Oh, Devil Woman,
Devil Woman, let go of me.
Devil Woman, let me be,
And leave me alone.
I want to go home.
Marty Robbins
Very close to how men in certain countries think about sexual molesting and rape . “the evil woman tempted me, a good muslim, to sin against Allah” So some beat and kick their victim also after the rape – as “punishment”. Persistent rumors on the net tells it so – and one double gang-rape that I’ve seen the details about was that way. One of the women got 3 titanium plates in her head when they were reconstructing her face. I head-butted a speeding streetcar in 2010, 65 tons, and only got 1 titanium plate. Makes one think. Picture-googling “jenny lemon” – with the citation marks – turns up several copies of the police photo she had published in the evening papers as a protest – but later, subjected to pressure from professional anti-racist groups, tried to take down. Too late, it is all over the web.
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“People keep talking about Victorian women, but I read a lot of Victorian literature, and this kind of fragility was unknown in that era.”
Of course not, it was not a kind and gentle place, Shakesville wouldn’t last a half hour in the Victorian world.
The point is that Shakesville and similar members of the Offendariat are echoing ideological stereotypes that were used to, for example, justify women not being able to vote: they’re too sensitive and emotional for the rough and tumble world of political decision making.
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It’s like they are desperate to make a case that women can’t function in the world. It’s very bizarre.
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Victorian England is for many the yardstick for prissiness – but the rule stays true: The higher the morals, the higher the number of prostitutes. England, being a great sea-faring nation, got more than it’s fair share of the diseases of the world. The maybe worst was syphilis. Sometimes you could think every other of the wealthy classes was infected – and you could guess it was the same for the less well to do. Many men went to brothels or to free-lance prostitutes, got infected and then gave the disease to their wives and secondary to the children. A woman of those days could have “the pox” and also TBC and damage from childbirth, so if she wasn’t forced to activity by hunger, she rested when she could. Also, medicine not yet a true science, actually advised pregnant women to stay in bed up to giving birth – and then for some months more.
The industrialization era moved people to the cities, the social control disappeared, and many men went to a bar or pub after work, spending all the money and then some. At the end of the week, the bartender gave the men drinks on credit, chalking up their debt on a board. So come Saturday, a large portion of the pay went to pay the debt right away, Working-class women often had to work outside the home for money to pay the rent and put food on the table, in spite of she could have 6 to 8 small kids to tend to, some of them could even be ill.
Thinking back, the first woman “uprising” in many countries was before voting for prohibition. People of today think prohibition was a silly meddling in other peoples’ lives, but it was looked upon by many as the only way to break the evil circle.
So, I am not a bit surprised that women back in history didn’t take part more in politics and so on. They just didn’t have time and strength for any extra work. But thanks heaven we got different times now. Not allowing women to study was the other big part.
But for the election, chose the best possible – better opt for the 50 percent good than sticking with 100 percent good candidate that won’t get the majority, and by that letting the 100 percent bad into office. 4 years can be a long time to regret a wrong choice. Put a stick in the wheels of the “trump-wagon”!
And I am sure that Hillary would be better at kicking ISIS ass than the nice Bernie. Really, it IS a war going on. Some say WW3 – but for me, that was the Cold War. This is WW4 – and the Forth Horseman is the Pale Rider – death. The wing-nuts are advising people to stockpile food and gold and so on for the coming End of the World. But it beats me what use I would have for food if the world ends – and much less so, for gold. My father used to say: “There are no pockets in your burial shroud.”
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