I just looked at an Iowa caucus on TV and it’s the most fascinating thing ever. I totally want to take part in something like this one day.
Maybe I’ll apply for citizenship after all because it looks like quite an experience.
It’s a beautiful, beautiful thing to have real elections where people participate, nobody drags in sacks of fake ballots, and nobody has any idea who’ll win. I’m very touched right now.
P.S. MSNBC is very biased. They only sent reporters to precincts where they knew Bernie would be winning, and they are not even trying to conceal it. The press is equally whorish everywhere, it seems.
A voter on TV just said he voted for Trump because he rebuilt the Twin Towers after 9/11.
This is exciting!
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The channel I’m watching, some kid just used the word “fucking”, and every commentator almost fainted. But yout channel sounds even more fun.
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I’m watching Fox news online, but I may add an MSNBC stream too.
Nothing beats Fox news for entertainment. Can’t stand the smirking Maddow (I assume she’s reporting for MSNBC).
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lol Jeb.
Went from Jeb! to Jeb? to Jeb:(
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Part of me wishes Trump lost badly so we could see a world class meltdown from him. Would be so funny to watch him shit all over poor Iowans on his way out of town.
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😀 😀 😀
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Yes, Carson needs to freshen up for sure. And in more ways than one because the guy has gone very stale.
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Dr. Carson needs to go home and do laundry because he’s a freshman in college during winter break. He ran out of quarters.
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So what, Cruz is winning?
Fuck.
Of course, I’d say the same about any of these candidates winning.
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Yeah, but it was a must-win for Cruz. He’s been campaigning there since forever. Trump could lose Iowa and still win, Cruz can’t.
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Bush has 2.7% and five Republican contenders have under 2%. Why don’t these losers quit?
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Because they want the campaign money rolling in.
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“Bush has 2.7% and five Republican contenders have under 2%. Why don’t these losers quit?”
I’m hoping that tonight will be a sign for them that it’s time to go away. This is becoming very ridiculous.
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O’Malley has dropped out!!!
Finally.
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Chatter on twitter is that this is very good for Rubio. Jeb is now officially out, establishment $ can now get comfortably behind Rubio.
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Fox news is loving these results.
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Cruz will stink in New Hampshire, though. There are no religious types there.
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Ah, Jeb is officially out! I’m not very happy, though, because Rubio is worse than Bush.
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Sorry, bad use of the word officially. I meant he is virtually out.
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He needs to go, this is too pathetic even for him.
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I think there’ll be a lot of pressure on him to quit. I read that a lot of establishment republican donors haven’t given any money to Rubio out of respect for the Bush family. But the implicit understanding was that he’d better perform. Now that he’s fucked, I think Bush Sr would have to give them the go-ahead to support whoever they want now.
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Rubio stinks, though. I can’t be happy about him. The first real candidates with Hispanic names should be these idiot clowns? So unfair.
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Rubio is slowly gaining (22%) on Trump (25%) so the Donald might come in third. = total meltdown!!
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I wonder if he’ll cry. 🙂
SCHADENFREUDE RULES.
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I detest the Rubio campaign’s gloating, though.
Freaks.
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Rubio is going to win tonight, and proceed to beat Hillary in the general. Sorry the caucus is turning out so badly for the Dems. 🙂 🙂
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O’Malley is out. That’s the best thing anybody could have expected from the Dem caucus.
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O’Malley was always irrelevant. The big news of the night is that Rubio is finally becoming the clear alternative to Trump and Cruz — and that Cruz looks like he’s beating Trump.
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Iowa has been notoriously unreliable for Republicans, though.
Of course, it’s good that Trump is getting a kick in the gonads, though.
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Rubio now 23% and Trump 24%. I wonder if the Donald is sweating.
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For Trump, this has got to be very painful. Let’s prepare for Trump to go after Rubio in a vicious way.
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https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/694360143945961472
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One percent! It seems like it’s just one.
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Hillary is declaring victory?? Come on.
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There are still 13% of results that need to come in. Hillary should not be declaring victory at this time. This doesn’t look good.
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Clinton camp calling it a victory without any official confirmation. Networks aren’t happy. ‘Can she do that?’ says Brian Williams.
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That’s a big mistake. It looks desperate and underhanded. I’m not happy. 😦
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Seriously, this is bad. 50 to 49.3 with 13% left to report and you call it a win?? Shame on her.
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I think Bernie will win Iowa.
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Rubio is giving a triumphalist speech promising more guns and more military. What a wimp.
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Rubio making his victory speech. The more he talks the better I feel about the Democratic party’s chances. He’s only capable of regurgitating his stump speech. Yawn.
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He’s promising a repeal of Obamacare. Which everybody likes. What else needs to happen for these doofuses to notice that their own base wants healthcare?
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‘They said this moment would never happen’.
Dude, ‘they’ said you’d finish third. Which you did. Slow your roll.
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The audience seemed to have remained quite cold to the story of his immigrant parents’ achievement. I’m not sure he fully understands even his most dedicated supporters.
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He’s grading himself on a curve and there are like fifteen other candidate! And Iowa is only 1% of the convention votes. He’s not dead yet, but everyone else behind him pretty much is.
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Hillary / Bernie is 50-50 now.
It’s great for Hillary that she did so well in a state that was inclined towards Bernie from the start.
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Trump is trying to be gracious. But he sounds downright funereal.
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AHAHAHAHAHA. He did very well for having no campaign apparatus and not living there for a year like poor unlikeable Cruz.
I bet the dude is gloating right now about how he plans to repeal time and regain his hair.
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I still hate Cruz even more than Trump. I can’t look at the fellow without cringing.
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Listen to Trump pretending to be humble for once in his life!
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He’s not being very convincing. Which is a good sign. Means he finds it hard to lie very blatantly.
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‘We will declare victory…I hope‘.
Shook!
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The Hillary / Bernie stand off is bringing back the traumatic memory of the Bush / Gore election night. That was a bad, bad moment.
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Cruz might have won Iowa tonight but his eligibility to run for president is still very much in question. Both his parents were on the Canadian federal voter’s list for the 1974 election cycle and you have to be a certified Canadian citizen to be on the list which means that both his parents couldn’t be American citizens when he was born hence he is not a naturalized citizen which is required of presidential candidates. Of course then we could have a discussion about Chester Arthur, 21st American president and probably born in Bedford, PQ.
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Oh, I hope he gets hit with the birtherist pole. Will serve him right.
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Both his parents were on the Canadian federal voter’s list for the 1974 election cycle and you have to be a certified Canadian citizen to be on the list which means that both his parents couldn’t be American citizens when he was born hence he is not a naturalized citizen which is required of presidential candidates.
If this is true about his mother and this means she must have renounced her US citizenship prior to his birth then he doesn’t have American citizenship at birth. It is my understanding he was a citizen of Canada at birth by jus solis and a natural born citizen of the US by jus sanguinis through his mother at the time of his birth.
The question is can you be a natural born citizen of the US and another country and be eligible to be POTUS?
That’s a genuine legal question that affects anyone who was born to US citizens in countries that recognize dual citizenship with the US and automatically confer citizenship in their country to anyone born there (like Mexico (George Romney) , Pakistan or Canada).
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This is going to be increasingly important in the globalizing world.
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It doesn’t mean that. Do an Internet search and look up the specific laws about American citizenship in effect at the time of Cruz’s birth. His mother meets all the criteria for U.S. citizenship, making her son a “natural-born American.”
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Somehow, this argument did not seem convincing to the folks who bored us for years with the talk of how Obama was born in Kenya and how meaningful that supposedly was.
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Both his parents were on the Canadian federal voter’s list for the 1974 election cycle
Ted Cruz was born in 1970 so unless there are facts which imply that his mother must have renounced her citizenship four years before she appeared on the voter rolls, this fact has no bearing on Cruz’ natural born citizenship.
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This is not correct at all. America allows dual citizenship, and a person can be an American citizen while registered to vote in another country, and even while serving and fighting in another country’s military (as a number of American Jews –who automatically have Israeli citizenship by virtue of their religion — have demonstrated by serving in the IDF).
Cruz’s eligibility will be a non-issue, even if some Cruz haters will try to challenge it in the courts.
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God, he’s fake. Aren’t people seeing that? Barf, vomit, bleh.
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For Cruz, Christian beliefs come after free market principles. What a blasphemous piece of cheap trash. A true believer would never put these words in the same sentence.
Go die, freak.
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Come on, two things are obligatory for ANY candidate of either party running for U.S. President:
The candidate has to claim to be sincerely religious. (That bothers some atheists, but not me — counterfeit religion is as harmless as “God bless America” on the bills in my wallet.)
The candidate has to vow total support of Israel against its barbaric, fifth century enemies. (I’m not Jewish, but I agree with that stance completely.)
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Check this out.
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Good points.
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Jeb! spent $3125 per vote.
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Hillary is giving a great speech. Plus, it’s nice to see Bill hover in the background and not speak. I like him when he’s silent.
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It was a good speech until she started shouting at the end, and claiming special status as a woman candidate.
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She does have a special status as a woman candidate. Which is obviously not her fault.
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And Bernie has a special status as the first-ever Jew to make a serious run for President. We’ve had many Protestant Presidents — like fundamentalist, born-again Baptist Jimmy Carter, and pacifist Quaker Richard Nixon — even a Catholic John Kennedy who had to assure voters that his first allegiance wasn’t to Rome. Not their fault about their religious beliefs — not Bernie’s fault who his mother was, either.
At least Bernie doesn’t wear his Judaism on his sleeve — or his chest — when he campaigns.
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Bernie doesn’t practice Judaism, obviously. He’s an ethnic Jew. And yes, it’s very special and endearing to me.
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Right now the stats are Hilary 49.8% and Sanders 49.6% so I hope it’s not a Victory speech.
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She leads By 4 delegates. Crazy!
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Both Hillary and Bernie are declaring victory tonight, and the bizarre way that Iowa determines Democratic delegates won’t be concluded until after the New Hampshire primary next week, which Bernie will win handily.
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