And now Russians are all like, “And how will a poor country like Ukraine be able to afford to host Eurovision, huh?”
Of course, if they truly believed that Ukraine’s Eurovision win was organized by the CIA, it stands to reason that the CIA will find a way to pay for it.
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I’m prone to think that Putinites desperately want to be the target of vast, intricate CIA conspiracies because that (along with the good tsar in the form of Vlad himself) gives their life structure and meaning. It’s what they have instead of religion.
So give them what they want. Laugh in their face at their helplessness against the CIA ha ha ha ha!!!
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“I’m prone to think that Putinites desperately want to be the target of vast, intricate CIA conspiracies because that (along with the good tsar in the form of Vlad himself) gives their life structure and meaning. It’s what they have instead of religion.”
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The Eurovision finals was the Gong Show on steroids. Chuck Burris should have been the emcee; it would have saved a lot of time. If the Rooskies think the US spooks have nothing better to do than to fix such a shitshow, no wonder we won the cold war.
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The Ukrainian girl who won cheated by singing a political song, which is against the rules.
Good for her. Eurovision rules, like international law, are a farce. Putin knows that, Obama doesn’t. But whichever candidate becomes our next President in November–the Hair or the Hag–at least understands that power is all that counts on the world stage.
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I have been a strong supporter of the Crimean Tatar cause for decades and backed Jamala from the start. Anybody who thinks music and politics can be separated is a fool. The difference now is that instead of songs attacking South Africa, the US, or Guatemala there is now a popular one talking about Soviet racial discrimination. This drives the Russians, Greeks, and a large number of Americans surprisingly nuts.
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I agree. If one wants, one can see anything as political. These days, peeing has suddenly become the central political issue of the moment here in the US.
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For a better background about what is going on here see my latest article on the subject.
https://www.academia.edu/25360238/The_Deportation_of_the_Crimean_Tatars_in_the_Context_of_Settler_Colonialism
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The politics of 1944 is not hugely relevant today. What if she sang about Napoleonic wars? Or “in 1492 Columbus sailed the ocean blue”?
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1944 is hugely relevant for many of the deported peoples of the USSR like the Crimean Tatars and Chechens because they are still suffering the after effects. Similarly 1492 has a similar role in the history of many Native American nations. There have been in fact songs about 1492. Rage Against the Machine’s Sleep Now in the Fire from 1999 for instance comes to mind.
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Let’s hope that the fact that the tragedy of the Crimean Tatars is attracting interest will mean that your research will finally be recognized in all its importance.
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That would be great. Since Jamal won my Academia.edu site has gotten over 250 hits for two of my articles on Crimean Tatars. Most of them have been to this older one from 2010.
https://www.academia.edu/4836303/The_False_Charges_of_Treason_Against_the_Crimean_Tatars
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That’s so awesome! And long overdue. The subject deserves attention.
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“The politics of 1944 is not hugely relevant today”
IINM she’s said on the record that the song is also about 2014…
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Of course, anybody is free to imbue the song with any meaning that is relevant to them.
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“Of course, anybody is free to imbue the song with any meaning that is relevant to them.”
Especially the author, since I was referring to Jamala who I’m pretty sure has said it’s about both 1944 and 2014 (and certainly relevant now too given ongoing terrible Russian treatment of Crimean Tatars)
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Conchita Wurst is political too. In many parts of the world…
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Good point. Although as I said back when she won, a bearded lady has been an integral part of fun fairs forever.
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I found the CIA agent!
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Yes, that Justin Timberlake is very suspicious. 🙂
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It is actually even more interesting – several Russian news outlets announced that Russia is not giving Ukraine any money to conduct Eurovision in 2017. They are trying to create an impression that Ukraine a) asked Russia for money and b) did it within a day of Jamala’s victory. Some weeks later, there will be no trace of Ukraine asking Russia for money (since it did not ask), but there will be multiple traces of Russia “denying the request”.
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This is hilarious. The song contest is providing entertainment way after its over. 🙂
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“rying to create an impression that Ukraine a) asked Russia for money”
Sorry Dreidel, the next time you’re arrested for drunk and disorderly conduct,don’t call me, I won’t be able to bail you out.
This is fun!
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OMG! I am from Ukraine and this is being discussed so far away from my country 🙂
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I’m from Ukraine, too. 🙂
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