I got all choked up when the audience cheered Bernie for 10 minutes. What a great guy. What an inspiration.
It may be dumb but I was in tears when he spoke.
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I got all choked up when the audience cheered Bernie for 10 minutes. What a great guy. What an inspiration.
It may be dumb but I was in tears when he spoke.
Well, I’ll give his speech a B+ or maybe even A-. He finally gave a whole-hearted, non-conditional endorsement of Hillary — but he prattled on for at least 15 minutes before he ever mentioned her name.
And he specifically noted that there will be a ROLL CALL tomorrow night, meaning that Hillary won’t have the usual convention honor of being nominated by acclamation.
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Bernie can cover himself with Hillary tattoos head to foot but it will not move the TPP whisperers in any direction. They don’t seem to have been listening to anything but the voices in their heads.
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Hillary is actually for TPP (and the Keystone pipeline,too), just lying through her teeth about her position.*
That’s why her people wouldn’t allow language addressing the TPP into the Democratic Party platform.
*She’s right about both issues. π
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It may be dumb but I was in tears when he spoke.
No, I think large sections of the audience were in tears too. β€
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But not all for the same reasons. π
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Actually, I cried during the 2008 election when Obama won, but not for the reason that most Democrats did.
I cried for the same reason that Jessie Jackson did on national television that night — that those of us making over $250,000 a year were about to get royally screwed in the wallet.
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Did you? I have no idea if the taxes went up and for whom. The tax code is too complicated.
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Oh for the love of God, Dreidel. Wealthy people have done perfectly well during the Obama years–particularly since the stock market is so strong right now. And the Bush recession wasn’t good for anybody–including the wealthy…………………And speaking personally….you are an old man and you seem to have a bit of money. I’m happy for you. Now, pony up, pay some damn taxes, and quit whining.
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I prefer that people don’t support Obama for these rational reasons than because of racism.
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But it’s not a rational reason. The Bush recession was terrible for people with money; the Obama economy has been great for people with money. The rhetoric is nonsensical.
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Chill out, Evelina. You shouldn’t take everything I post on this website so seriously! Like Clarissa, I make JOKES once in a while, and don’t feel the need to label them as such.
The mild kick to my wallet in 2008 actually came a month before the election, when the Great Recession hit in October, and everybody knew then that the Republicans weren’t getting a third term in any case. π
And you’re right that “the Obama economy has been great for people with money” IN THE STOCK MARKET, because Obama’s inability to create growth and jobs has kept interest rates basically at zero. Great for investors, not so good with people on a salary with savings accounts.
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Unemployment is actually quite low right now…..especially if you consider the massive unemployment rates caused by the Bush recession. And even more jobs would be created if the Republican-backed congress would allow massive infrastructure investment.
But my larger point is that many many people have money in the stock markets. Even people with very modest salaries have 401ks or retirement plans that invest in the stock market. I actually don’t really have much of a savings account at all. Almost the entirely of my “wealth” (such as it is) lies in my 403b. I had only recently started my position and investing in my 403b when the Bush recession hit. So I didn’t have too much money in there and I still remember how sharply my account declined. I was fortunate. My older colleague actually came in to work crying one day because she lost so much money and she was depending on that money for retirement. Fast forward to today and my account is exploding (and my older colleague made her money back.) Having a healthy stock market is important for large swathes of the population. Not just investors and brokers.
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So, politics is about how you feel, now?
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No, of course, not. I still support Hillary and not Bernie.
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On the one hand, the lineup of speakers last night was awesome and inspiring.
On the other hand, the media has gone out of its way to find the half dozen bitter enders who can’t let the primaries go and give them a ton of coverage to make it look like the convention is in disarray.
On the third hand, I need to start pruning the sites I read regularly. There seem to be a lot of rageaholics around who are so addicted to being surly and pissed off that they’ll eagerly lap up every drop of “divided Democrats” narrative that the media serves up. I swear I think these people actually want to lose so that they can spend the next 4 years being angry at the supposed “traitors”.
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I so agree! The media narrative was deranged. Journalists tried very hard to manufacture scandal where there was none. I’m disgusted.
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In bizzaro world, I read an Ian Welsh post claiming that Trump has a positive message of hope and Clinton has a negative message of doom. Out of all the interpretations of this campaigns this is least reality based one.
There seem to be a lot of rageaholics around who are so addicted to being surly and pissed off that theyβll eagerly lap up every drop of βdivided Democratsβ narrative that the media serves up. I swear I think these people actually want to lose so that they can spend the next 4 years being angry at the supposed βtraitorsβ.
I think the networks found one potential Jill Stein voter to go on the record. For many of these people, actual “progress” is meaningless. If you care about these things why not take an opportunity to create a reality that isn’t about playing hard defense all the time instead of stating “I’m not interested incrementalism because it depresses me, let me vote for a candidate who has no chance in hell of winning and for whom I’m willing to do no actual work?”
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“In bizzaro world, I read an Ian Welsh post claiming that Trump has a positive message of hope and Clinton has a negative message of doom. Out of all the interpretations of this campaigns this is least reality based one.”
“If you care about these things why not take an opportunity to create a reality that isnβt about playing hard defense all the time instead of stating βIβm not interested incrementalism because it depresses me, let me vote for a candidate who has no chance in hell of winning and for whom Iβm willing to do no actual work?β”
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