Terence Crutcher, Keith Lamont Scott – it’s happening literally every day. And then people ask me why I support reparations to African Americans but not, say, to the descendants of serfs in the Russian Empire. Because for the serfs it ended back in 1861. While here it is far from truly and completely ending.
I agree with you completely. I don’t have anything clever or new to add here. But I just wanted to register my agreement. We are still working through the ugly legacies of slavery, Jim Crow, and segregationist policies. And those who say we are “post-racial” and that somehow American society is “color blind” drive me bananas.
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And then the police union goes and endorsed Trump. This is just the limit.
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Can’t wait for the explanations from the Cliff-types.
What is it going to be this time? Let’s try to be more creative, please. How about something like ‘Black people’s hands look like guns?’
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Cliff is no racist. He’s a good person and he’s sad about all this, too.
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I like him too, and he has brilliant insights on many things. His response to the shootings has been mostly of the ‘if they had listened to the police this wouldn’t have happened’ variety. He’s called the protesters thugs. It’s all very distasteful.
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Kind of On-topic — I just finished Colson Whitehead’s Underground Railroad, his latest novel. Though it’s about a woman who escapes from slavery, it’s also about current American racism. Very much worth reading.
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I was wondering if I should read it. I trust your taste, so thank you for recommending it.
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The worst thing about these shootings is that the police just leaving them dying, bleeding on the street. No attempt at first aid. Like, OK, you’ve shot the dude, you now see he didn’t have a gun, he’s incapacitated. Now will you call for help, administer first aid?
They just stand around, doing nothing.
They shot Tamir Rice. How the fuck do you just leave him there? Don’t you see now it was a toy gun? Fucking do something.
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It’s like shooting to kill is absolutely all they know how to do. It’s insane.
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Regarding Terence Crutcher, I’ve just read he might have been under the influence of PCP, a very dangerous drug:
http://www.germanjoys.eu/2016/09/what-gets-lost-in-translation.html
I am also influenced by reading stuff like this:
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.743379
Influenced in the direction of not automatically thinking IDF soldiers / American police are in the wrong. May be, it’s the example of me wrongly generalizing from Israeli realities to American ones.
As for Israeli case, we are under a rising terror wave, as usual at this time of year when Jews are supposed to be busily celebrating. And children of younger age were used to commit terror attacks, including with exploding vests. I do not blame the soldiers for shooting.
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It’s refreshing to see the left-wing Haaretz rag say something pro-IDF for a change.
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You certainly know how to pick your sources, don’t you? Not one far right xenophobic site escapes your notice. You and danmillerpanama make a great team of idiots.
Ok, let’s say he was under the influence of PCP. How does it change anything? Say, a crowd of drunk white teens refuse to disperse from a loud party when the police shows up (happens all the time, btw). I suppose the appropriate response for the police would be to start shooting at them. Yes?
“I do not blame the soldiers for shooting.”
That’s because you’re a brain-washed apartheid-supporting moron. But you knew that already.
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Dreidel here…
Yes, everybody knows that the extremely liberal, left-wing Israeli newspaper Haaretz is a “far right xenophobic” publication.
It’s about time that Haaretz gave some support to the soldiers defending its country instead of to Palestinian butchers.
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“Yes, everybody knows that the extremely liberal, left-wing Israeli newspaper Haaretz is a “far right xenophobic” publication.”
Yes, that’s what I was referring to. Idiot. Danmiller and el have this habit of reading and posting links from sites that lament ‘white genocide’ and other such things.
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Dreidel here…
Here’s some good advice, Stringer Boy:
If you want to have some influence in your adopted country, stop wasting your money on all those anger management classes (which obviously aren’t helping), and devote yourself to passing your citizenship test — so you can stop calling names like a 15-year-old adolescent and actually VOTE!
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lol. Racist idiot who’s never gotten over the trauma of the Feds busing black kids into his classroom when he was a child has some advice to give on the interwebs.
Tell us more about what you feel about the Hindooos and the dots on their foreheads please.
Sorry son, the world has passed you by, and all you can do is this:
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Dreidel here…
You’re the one yelling, Stringer Boy — at me, at el, at danmillerpanama, and everybody else who dares to have a different political view than yours.
Until you can vote, you’re just an angry child screaming at the night, and I’ll leave you to it. ‘Bye.
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\Yes, that’s what I was referring to. Idiot. Danmiller and el have this habit of reading and posting links from sites that lament ‘white genocide’ and other such things.
I think I linked to such a site ONE time, after stumbling on some article by accident. And the facts in that particular article seemed to be true.
German Joys is not such a site. It is far less “far right” than Haaretz is far left. For Israel, German Joys is moderate center kind of website, btw.
And I read all kinds of sites: Uri Avnery and Haaretz are ultra-left, Israel Hayom is very right wing (and close to Israeli mainstream), yet another blog is by a Haredi person who is Left wing in his position RE Palestinians and wishes to turn Israel into Jewish Iran, a religious fundamentalist country. His dream religious Jewish state is my worst nightmare, the state I would want to escape from as soon as possible.
I think I can judge for myself and evaluate information from all sources. Why are Left wing sources OK, when they are just as biased as Right wing sources? At least, that’s the situation in Israeli press. As for Israeli and not websites I choose to link to, the sources you call Right wing are ironically less biased than Left wing ones.
Why is being Right wing a crime or a sign of lack of intelligence? Being Right wing does not mean supporting Trump-like candidates or supporting shooting every Arab in sight. In Israel, being Right wing means not believing creating a Palestinian state right now is the best thing for Jews.
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\That’s because you’re a brain-washed apartheid-supporting moron. But you knew that already.
Do you think Israeli Left is for not shooting terrorists?
Fun fact about the 13 year old’s family from a Palestinian news source:
\ She is the niece of a 24-year old Palestinian woman who was killed in November at a military roadblock in the same area. In that incident, 24-year old Rasha Ahmad Hamed ‘Oweissi approached the roadblock from afar, holding a knife in her hand and a suicide letter in her bag. She was shot by a soldier while she was still at least 30 feet away from the roadblock.
http://imemc.org/article/israeli-soldier-shoots-13-year-old-palestinian-girl-for-failing-to-stop-at-checkpoint/
Often numerous terrorist acts come from members of the same extended family, as happened in this case. Sometimes one attack fails (as both did here), but then another family member does a better job and injures or kills a Jew.
I have also seen in the news a recent case of 16-year-old attempting to stab IDF soldiers. Here is another recent case of a 17-year-old Palestinian murdering a 13-year old girl in her bed (literally) and then being posthumously honored by PA for that:
\According to Palestinian Authority law, the family of today’s murderer will immediately start receiving a monthly PA stipend that the PA pays to the families of all the “Martyrs.”
The mother of the terrorist told a local Hebron news network that her son was “a hero” who made her “proud”
http://www.palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=157&doc_id=18302
We do not live in a (currently) peaceful European reality. Is this mother all right in your eyes? When terror acts come one after another and Palestinians younger than 16 have participated in them too, that’s what happens when an IDF soldier thinks a girl will try to stab him/her or explode. Her hand went somewhere under clothes and soldiers had no idea what she would do next: try to stab or explode?
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Every time I go into my classroom, that’s when the blog gets really lively. 😍
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“I’ll leave you to it. ‘Bye.”
Look how he runs.
So, let’s see. Calling someone a fucking idiot is a sign of great anger bubbling underneath, a person in need of anger management classes apparently.
If that’s the case, how would you classify someone who says this?
*Deaf at your young age from trying to deal with the constant gab of four wives, or has that dot on your forehead melted into makeup running lateral to your nose and blinding your eyes? Okay, here’s my final answer.
If you still don’t get it, ask Clarissa to make a 3-D print of the above image in braille. Langurs and similar dumb animals are sacred to your kind anyway — so just rub its warm tummy, and everything will be all right.*
Using your own standards, I would guess the person who wrote that was literally foaming at the mouth.
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Talking about stupid Right wingers, in “Alone among Jews,” Tuvia Tenenbom went to Knesset and described his interviews with Knesset members. Both Right and Left wingers had their share of weird sayings, but Tuvia rightly laments the inclination to insert insults against the other side’s intelligence into political disagreements. For instance, a female Left wing member is considered “smart,” while a female Right wing member – ignorant. This despite the former’s High school education, while the letter has a degree in computer sciences from Tel Aviv university and her husband is a fighter pilot, which is super elite and hard to get accepted to course in IDF.
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\“I do not blame the soldiers for shooting.”
That’s because you’re a brain-washed apartheid-supporting moron. But you knew that already.
Read today:
Attempted stabbing attack by 14-year-old terrorist in Kiryat Arba
The terrorist attempted to sneak up on security forces with a knife at a junction in Kiryat Arba, before being shot in the leg and the chest; no other injuries were reported.
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Elias Junction—the entrance to Kiryat Arba—became a flashpoint of terror attacks during Israel’s wave of terror between 2015 and mid-2016. Only last Friday a vehicular attack attempt also took place, when two terrorists—a man and a woman—tried to run over three Israeli teenagers near Kiryat Arba. The man was shot to death and the woman was severely injured during the incident, while the three boys were slightly wounded. The female terrorist’s sister had reportedy tried in the past to carry out her own vehicular terrorist attack near Kiryat Arba.
The attack was the fourth to have taken place in just one day, among them an attempted stabbing by a Jordanian national at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem’s Old City.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4858669,00.html
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“Attempted stabbing attack by 14-year-old terrorist in Kiryat Arba”
To be honest, after “14-year-old terrorist” I stop reading. A dumb teenager, yes. A juvenile delinquent, yes. But a terrorist? This is so overwrought that it loses all credibility.
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A juvenile delinquent is somebody who steals from you or commits some other crime not out of nationalistic reasons. Palestinian society honors its youngsters when they attack Jews. Those “dumb teenagers” do not act this way w/o wide social support and glorification. Read about this case from 2015, for instance, and tell how would you call those teens. After which age would you call somebody who critically injures a terrorist? It’s a serious question. Are 20-year-old Palestinian attackers terrorists or dumb delinquents? 19-year-old ones?
\ Two Palestinian youths of 13 and 15 stabbed and critically injured a 13-year-old Israeli boy riding his bike in northern Jerusalem
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Four Israelis and 26 Palestinians, including eight alleged attackers and eight children, have died in 12 days of bloodshed, the worst spell of street violence for years, stirred in part by Muslim anger over increasing Jewish visits to the al-Aqsa mosque compound in Jerusalem.
http://europe.newsweek.com/palestinian-teens-stab-13-year-old-israeli-violence-continues-rage-334677?rm=eu
Here is another interesting case:
\ A 14-year-old Palestinian boy, Muawiyah Alkam, was convicted Sunday for his role in a terrorist attack last November on Jerusalem’s Light Rail in the city’s Pisgat Ze’ev neighborhood. As part of a plea agreement, he was sentenced by the Jerusalem District Court to six and a half years in prison. The charge against him was reduced, as part of the agreement, from attempted murder to aggravated infliction of bodily harm.
The teen’s lawyer, Lea Tsemel, said Muawiyah and his cousin, 11-year-old Ali Alkam, came to Jerusalem with sharp implements, got on a light rail train and stabbed a security guard, injuring him lightly to moderately. The guard fired at Ali and other passengers subdued Muawiyah until the police arrived to take him into custody.
Ali was too young to be charged in the case, Tsemel said, and after being released from the hospital, where he was treated for a serious gunshot wound, he was sent to a sheltered institutional setting.
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.731752
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“After which age would you call somebody who critically injures a terrorist? It’s a serious question. Are 20-year-old Palestinian attackers terrorists or dumb delinquents? 19-year-old ones?”
The choice of vocabulary depends on the goal. If the goal is to exacerbate tensions and stoke even greater hatred, then one should call even toddlers terrorists. If, on the other hand, the goal is to calm the situation down a bit, then maybe it’s best to choose different words.
The question is: what goal is this “terrorists! terrorists!” rhetoric achieve? What does it make better?
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\If, on the other hand, the goal is to calm the situation down a bit, then maybe it’s best to choose different words.
With the war going on and not stopping anytime soon, it does not matter which words Israeli press would choose. Every Israeli Jew knows about the Palestinian incitement, PA paying “dumb teens’ ” families and their relatives telling on Palestinian radio how proud they are of their “shahids.”
If you call them “dumb delinquents,” the only result would be more Israeli Jews believing in our supposedly mainstream press being very Left wing and lying to us. Even more Jews would turn to truly very Right wing sources. That’s why I think following your advice would only make the situation worse.
Btw, Haaretz is hardly read in Israel, while Israel Hayom is one of most popular papers. I suppose, it’s partly because the latter is free, but not only that.
Uri’s latest column is about the symbol of peace, former President Shimon Peres, who is currently in coma at the age of 93 iirc:
http://zope.gush-shalom.org/home/en/channels/avnery/1474654260/
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Words always matter. In fact, nothing matters more. An 11-year-old child, by God. He can’t be a criminal by default. He’s a kid.
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\The question is: what goal is this “terrorists! terrorists!” rhetoric achieve? What does it make better?
Just thought of an example of not “calling a child by his name” (Hebrew expression) making matters worse: when German press talked about doctors and teachers arriving from Syria and tried to minimize the attacks on women and others, it only lent more credibility to (extreme) Right wing sites presenting refugees in sometimes undeservedly bad light.
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Something positive for a change:
Israel repeats promise to improve life in Gaza and the West Bank
While Israeli delegates elaborate on the various projects Israel supposedly implements to improve Palestinian lives, most of the projects it has committed to are stuck due to security concerns or mismanagement by the Palestinians themselves.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4858397,00.html
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Curious:
Other Peoples’ Indians; or Why the Soviets Loved James Fenimore Cooper for All the Wrong Reasons
http://www.germanjoys.eu/2016/09/other-peoples-indians-or-why-the-soviets-loved-james-fenimore-cooper-for-all-the-wrong-reasons.html
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I would be curious to hear how this person explains the popularity of Karlsson among the Soviet people. 😃
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