Post-debate

What’s interesting is that Trump didn’t go after Hillary nearly as hard as he had gone after all of his Republican opponents in the primary. This is not the same Trump we saw in the primary. 

17 thoughts on “Post-debate

  1. I didn’t see it, but I was confused by reports of how subdued he was. I’ll confuse you by giving possible explanations that you won’t understand….

    rope a dope?

    screw job?

    worked shoot?

    jobber?

    hmmmm

    (some of the terms come from professional wrestling, I’ll clear them up when I have time but I was always kind of wondering if he wasn’t a jobber)

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  2. “I was confused by reports of how subdued he was”

    Well I wouldn’t describe him as subdued. He was clearly agitated: interrupting, raising his voice, shifting about, gesturing erratically etc. etc..

    But he didn’t attack Clinton much, it’s true. I think that he doesn’t know enough about policy to attack her on the issues and he was trying to avoid personal attacks in an attempt to appear “presidential.”

    I think that for the next debate he will go back to what he know: disgusting mud slinging. He’s already threatened to bring up Bill Clinton’s affairs and I think he will make good on that threat.

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  3. Yeah, subdued is really not the word here. He was wild and erratic, the very opposite of subdued. Did you not notice his body language? Fidgety as fuck, like he just snorted some coke earlier (all the sniffing would explain it, actually).

    Also, he doesn’t know how to debate. He does these rallies and gets bolstered by his rowdy audience which gives him encouragement. This was different. The room was silent and he had to create his own energy, which is difficult for him because he doesn’t know enough about any subject to keep talking for more than 30 seconds.

    Also, the primary structure favored him. Launch a zinger and then hang back, say nothing for the next 6-7 minutes because the stage has 8 other people.

    As much as I despise Ted Cruz, he would’ve absolutely crushed Trump in a one-on-one.

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  4. To keep on using wrestling terms, she was working stiff and not selling him so he didn’t get the pop he needed to put it over.

    (she wasn’t reacting like the typical repub dupes and this prevented the crowd getting on his side giving him the energy he needs to give them a show)

    To clarify my earlier terms

    ope a dope? (from boxing) letting an opponent attack you and not reacting until they wear themselves out

    screw job? – when the management double crosses one of the wrestlers (usually taking a title from them without warning them ahead of time)

    worked shoot? – action meant to look spontaneous and unrehearsed but which is anything but

    jobber? – someone whose job is to lose, often (but not always) to lesser skilled performers that management wants to promote, the jobber is supposed to make their opponent look good.

    I’m THIS close to drenching all of my subsequent commentary on this election with pro-wrestling jargon because that’s what it seems like anymore….

    Back in very early days I wondered if Trump was a jobber, meant to put away the other republicans so that Clinton would have an easier time of it. Then he turned out to be a tweener (like Jimmy Snuka) and did a face turn for the marks but like a good jobber he’s ultimately going sell her victory over him though he might stage a false comeback or two.

    I also still think the primary purose of his run is not to become president (a job he doesn’t really seem interested in) but rather to launch a political dynasty for his adult children (similar to Prescott Bush or Joe Kennedy).

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  5. There is a taboo against a man attacking a woman in the same way he would a man. Trump was following this taboo. I don’t know whether he will next time or not. If not, some people will turn against him for breaking it.

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    1. “There is a taboo against a man attacking a woman in the same way he would a man.”

      I think we can all agree that Trump doesn’t consider this a taboo. You’ll find literally hundreds of articles detailing Trump’s vicious abuse of women.

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      1. “But their already nasty feud took on an even darker tone when Trump mocked O’Donnell’s revelation that she suffered from depression.

        “If I looked like Rosie, I’d struggle with depression too,” Trump told Entertainment Tonight.”

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          1. I’m almost thinking Trump has some unacknowledged desire for Rosie O’Donnell. He’s truly obsessed with her. He was the one that mentioned her last night. Not even Clinton. It’s really striking how often he thinks about and discusses O’Donnell.

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  6. I think my favorite part was when he said ‘I knew you’d ask this question tonight’ to Holt and then proceeded to bumble incoherently.

    Imagine knowing what question will be on a test and preparing that rambling load of shit as an answer.

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      1. I know, but it’s still funny.

        Bond Villain, in a menacing tone: “I knew you were going to ask this question, Mr. Bond.”

        Bond Villain: Shits pants

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        1. Austin Powers: “That’s just not cricket! How am I supposed to fight you when every time I try to attack, you soil yourself?!”

          🙂

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  7. I have to admit there’s one bit that’s been making me smile …

    “I’ll show you my tax returns if you’ll show me those thirty thousand E-mails!”

    OH YEAH … I’LL SHOW YOU MINE IF YOU’LL SHOW ME YOURS!

    Hey you kids, grow up already.

    🙂

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