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The Michelle Carter Case

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The idea that one can make somebody kill themselves through text messages is insane. If some hysteric flipped and offed himself, it’s all on him, and not on whoever texted him. 

He could have always turned off his phone or blocked this particular sender, couldn’t he?

It’s like the idea of individual responsibility is totally dead. If we accept that this Michelle person is criminally liable, then we most certainly have to accept every “I was just following orders” excuse from every uniformed torturer, Nazi, etc. And that’s simply wrong. 

19 responses to “The Michelle Carter Case”

  1. Stringer Bell Avatar
    Stringer Bell

    You also have to admire the irony of people lamenting the high incarceration rates in america, yet calling for this woman to be charged with murder.

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  2. Stringer Bell Avatar
    Stringer Bell

    Off-topic did you hear about the interview that Megyn Kelly did with Putin? He ran circles around her stupid little ass.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/megyn-kelly-putin-interview_us_59456c6ce4b01eab7a2e1e31

    The last question Kelly asked Putin, which was not aired, was startling in its pandering. “We have been here in St. Petersburg for about a week now. And virtually every person we have met on the street says what they respect about you is they feel that you have returned dignity to Russia, that you’ve returned Russia to a place of respect. You’ve been in the leadership of this country for 17 years now. Has it taken any sort of personal toll on you?”

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    1. Clarissa Avatar
      Clarissa

      Oh yes. This was a big deal in Russia. The poor broad tried real hard.

      Putin offered Comey political asylum, by the way. He just never quits.

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      1. Shakti Avatar
        Shakti

        Putin offered Comey political asylum, by the way. He just never quits.
        Was that serious or a troll? It almost doesn’t matter.

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        1. Clarissa Avatar
          Clarissa

          He’ll do anything to stick it to the US, anything. It’s his reason to exist.

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  3. Vic Crain Avatar
    Vic Crain

    Logical consistency doesn’t seem to be a component of public policy these days. However, this decision fits with the notion that if someone is considering suicide, you can talk them out of it, and that there is an obligation to do so or to inform someone who can do so. It’s the religious doctrine that suicide is evil written into law. And yes, it is law despite all notions of separation of church and state.

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    1. Dreidel Avatar
      Dreidel

      Carter was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter, not murder — and the court make the right decision.

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      1. Clarissa Avatar
        Clarissa

        Dreidel, you are on your way to endorsing safe spaces and trigger warnings, it seems. 😊

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        1. Dreidel Avatar
          Dreidel

          🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

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        2. Shakti Avatar
          Shakti

          Trigger warning Florida felon named Trigger arrested after accidentally shooting himself
          Jason Trigger, 35, was in a Pasco County Dollar General store when a handgun reportedly fell from his pants and a bullet went into his ankle, according to WFTS.

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          1. Clarissa Avatar
            Clarissa

            Funny.

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      2. Z Avatar
        Z

        Dreidel is right.

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  4. cliff arroyo Avatar
    cliff arroyo

    I think Michelle Carter got terrible legal advice. She should have held out for a jury trial and then concocted some story about him sexually abusing and stalking her and calling her fat so she could claim that she was acting in self-defense.

    “I wanted him to kill himself…. because I knew that otherwise he would kill me!”

    What jury would convict her? If she played her cards right she could have been a rolling stone cover on sexual abuse.

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    1. Stringer Bell Avatar
      Stringer Bell

      What a miserable, bitter person you are.

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      1. cliff arroyo Avatar
        cliff arroyo

        Why thank you kindly! What a pleasant thing to say!

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        1. Spiderbaby Avatar
          Spiderbaby

          Well, you were probably being sarcastic, but false accusations are truly a horrible thing; you smear a person, destroy their reputation and, if caught, you undermine the struggle of those who were really victimized and have to defend themselves. It’s really one of the lowest, vilest, slimiest things one could do.
          “The calumny is a little wind…”

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          1. cliff arroyo Avatar
            cliff arroyo

            “false accusations are truly a horrible thing”

            Oh I agree I was just thinking what she or an unscrupulous lawyer could do given the legal system being the way it is (including not taking female crimes, including making false accusations, very seriously). There would be almost no potential downside if she were cuaght in the lie and a possible upside of being found not guilty.

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            1. Tal Hartsfeld Avatar
              Tal Hartsfeld

              Hey, give an ad hominem style society what it deserves!!!!

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  5. Crystallizing Chaos Avatar
    Crystallizing Chaos

    Given the age of the persons involved, I can’t help but wonder if bullying and how schools/communities choose to deal with this also has something to do with this. In a sense, the girl was ‘bullying’ the guy which automatically made her a criminal.

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