There’s a new fad in teaching called “trauma-informed pedagogy.” It means students can’t be disciplined or punished for terrible behavior in any way. If they beat other students, harass the teacher, create mayhem, vandalize the school property, or interrupt class to scream insults, you have to assume they do it because they’ve been traumatized. The only allowed reaction to this behavior is “oh, you poor bunny.” Of course, this creates even more terrible behavior. Some schools have descended into total mayhem as a result of this.

The goal of trauma-informed pedagogy is to make public schools so unappealing that people wouldn’t use them unless they are completely desperate. Public schooling will be reduced to a few hours of online propaganda a day. Once again, this is all about austerity.

“Culturally responsive teaching” is a synonym of “trauma-informed pedagogy.” And by God, do the people who come up with these ugly verbal constructions have any respect for language? Culturally responsive teaching is based on the belief that everybody who is not white is a complete idiot incapable of behaving in a civilized way. As a result, you can’t teach anything of substance or require any discipline because that’s isn’t respectful of the “cultures” that are congenitally dumb and violent. I kid you not, this utterly racist gobbledygook is now treated as holy dogma in teaching.

As a side note, if you are seeking psychological help, please avoid “trauma-informed therapists.” They are as useless and faddy as “trauma-informed teachers.”

No Algebra in middle schools will be California state wide, following SF’s disastrous lead

“The process should have definitely involved STEM faculty from top CA universities with direct knowledge of what is needed for success as STEM majors. It is absurd this was not done.” https://t.co/eewGIDEayt

They are trying to eliminate it for everybody who can’t pay for private schooling. Just like they are trying to eliminate policing who can’t pay for private security guards at a gated community.

// I did algebra in 7th grade, and I’m a math dunce.

I am an expert on school math programs in Israel, but know zero re USA. What is meant by algebra?

In Israel there is a state program on all subjects, including math.
In elementary school everybody studies at the same level.
In 8th grade official sorting into levels of math studying begins.
In 10-12 grades of high school students study math at 3, 4 or 5 points.

People are extraordinarily naive. This IS the intended effect. This is not a mistake or a good goal poorly implemented. When is everybody going to wake up and stop so pathetically explaining that “this won’t reduce inequities”? It’s embarrassing to watch. In the midst of an armed robbery they are explaining to the robbers that this crime won’t lead to more peace and justice.

Is Klara attending an elementary school or can she graduate high school at the same place?

If the latter, how do they study math there in higher grades? Can students choose to study computers, physics, biology and chemistry in depth in high school?

She’s staying at the Christian school until she’s 12. Then she can choose whether to go to the local public school for high school or go to a private Christian. Academically, the public school is currently stronger. But the brainwashing is intense. It’s many years away, though, so it’s hard to say right now. I think it will mostly depend on where her friends will go. If the majority switches to the public, I won’t separate her from them and send her to the Christian. Or vice versa.

This is all relative, of course. Nobody teaches anything in real depth in this country. All secondary education is dumbed down to serve the lowest common denominator. So the “best students” in America would be considered retarded back in the USSR, let alone today in, say, China.

It’s not so bad if you take AP classes, at least in science. My son’s physics, chemistry and bio classes were pretty intense. I don’t know how the AP classes stack up in humanities as my boys have zero interest in taking the more advanced classes in these subjects.

“Delaying Algebra 1 until 9th grade, however, would require other high school math classes like Geometry, Algebra 2 and Pre-Calculus to be compressed so that students can reach AP Calculus by 12th grade. … integrating traditionally separate math classes goes hand-in-hand with open-ended inquiry. ”

In Israeli high schools one math teacher teaches everything that is in school program at math lessons.

Separate math classes are what happens in university, but not at school level.

Ditto for physics in which the same teacher teaches electricity, mechanics, optics and so on.

American high school seem to copy university system, is that so?

In American high schools, a single math teacher will teach you in one year. Then in the next year, for the next class, the teacher you have depends on how many teachers there are and their course loads, as well as other things that can only be in a given period (certain music classes will always be period 2, for example, or always period 4). I had different math teachers each year of high school. Usually that teacher would teach the same level of math every year, but occasionally you’d end up with the same teacher multiple years in a row.

I didn’t have algebra until the 10th grade. When I was being ground through the system there was nothing like national standards or AP classes and for the most part high schools weren’t that different from each other (apart from very large cities).
Not that many people went to (or especially wanted to) go to university so there wasn’t that much status whoring about extra-curricular activities or AP type classes.
This was still the great compression where the emphasis was getting some version of the basics to everybody and the idea was that the stars would self-select and that high school was still pretty young to be sorting or tracking people into life tracks. You had to have two years of math in high school to graduate.
I actually failed algebra in the 10th grade (had been put in the class of the toughest teacher in the school and didn’t pay attention and….. F for the year). I took it again and that time I paid attention and did the work and got an A.
Senior year I took geometry and couldn’t get into it (and the teacher was too nice)…

At least in my state, highschool Algebra I is normally taught in 9th grade, Geometry in 10th, followed by Algebra II and III in grades 11 and 12. This is the minimal track for everyone. Calculus classes are considered advanced, and not available (or honestly necessary) to folks who don’t go on to a STEM field in college. There are also statistics classes, which are IMHO probably more important for general education of the populace than calculus, and programming classes that can also count toward math requirements. My two older kids have been accelerated and had Algebra I in 8th grade, Geometry in 9th, then Precalculus (Algebra II and III combined) in 10th grade, and then had 2 years of calculus (so-called Calculus AB and Calculus BC, which are considered AP (advanced placement) courses for which the student who scores high enough on the nationwide final exam can receive college credit). My youngest is accelerated further, and is currently having math 6/7 in 5th grade; he will have math 7/8 in 6th grade, then highschool Algebra I in 7th grade, and probably will be done with calculus in 11th grade. So far I have to say that, in terms of math, public schools have provided plenty of opportunity for differentiation. I still think that, in terms of science, they could be doing much more (it blows my mind that science is taught without a lick of math well into high school), and what I see for English and social sciences is OK, I suppose, but too repetitive and boring for kids who have a good head on their shoulders. It feels like the classes have 3x more time available than the content justifies.

To be fair, calculus in high school isn’t even strictly necessary to go into a STEM program. It was good for a student like me, who was ahead in math, but even then the program I was in strongly recommended taking Calc I with my AP score. It definitely gave me a very small leg up in that class, but we didn’t even start using calculus in physics classes until the next semester, and by then everyone was taking Calc II and so were at the same level.

It was for many decades:
Algebra – 9th grade
Geometry – 10th
Advanced Algebra or Advanced Algebra + Trigonometry – 11th
Trigonometry (1 semester) – 12th, OR, in a school that had the staffing, Calculus too

BUT NOTE — This isn’t strictly necessary since even today serious math in college starts with calculus, and HS versions of calculus don’t necessarily cover all that is covered in college. So there’s no real reason to freak out about not doing calculus in HS.

At my current university calculus is a junior-level course, because they have so many remedial classes on offer. But it is still where the math major starts, and that’s the version of calculus you need for physics and engineering.

This whole thing reminds me of an article that i read which claimed that reading to children was “racist”, because it advantaged children who were read to by their parents, most of whom were white.

Since I have quite a bit of experience with leftist academics, it seems obvious to me that education is being undermined by politically and ideologically motivated people so that graduates are as ignorant, and therefore as vulnerable to manipulation & exploitation, as possible.

I also think that this kind of thing is a crime against humanity, and would imprison anyone doing it for a very long time if it were up to me.

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What?? I did algebra in 7th grade, and I’m a math dunce. Are they trying to eliminate it altogether?

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They are trying to eliminate it for everybody who can’t pay for private schooling. Just like they are trying to eliminate policing who can’t pay for private security guards at a gated community.

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Yeah. It’s just… why do people go along with it? I guess if I understood that, I wouldn’t be on the spectrum, eh?

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// I did algebra in 7th grade, and I’m a math dunce.

I am an expert on school math programs in Israel, but know zero re USA. What is meant by algebra?

In Israel there is a state program on all subjects, including math.

In elementary school everybody studies at the same level.

In 8th grade official sorting into levels of math studying begins.

In 10-12 grades of high school students study math at 3, 4 or 5 points.

What is going on in America?

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The second response in the thread: https://twitter.com/TysonTrautmann/status/1463187577863692288?s=20

People are extraordinarily naive. This IS the intended effect. This is not a mistake or a good goal poorly implemented. When is everybody going to wake up and stop so pathetically explaining that “this won’t reduce inequities”? It’s embarrassing to watch. In the midst of an armed robbery they are explaining to the robbers that this crime won’t lead to more peace and justice.

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The goal seems to be to make sure that if you didn’t start school traumatized, you will finish school traumatized.

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Is Klara attending an elementary school or can she graduate high school at the same place?

If the latter, how do they study math there in higher grades? Can students choose to study computers, physics, biology and chemistry in depth in high school?

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She’s staying at the Christian school until she’s 12. Then she can choose whether to go to the local public school for high school or go to a private Christian. Academically, the public school is currently stronger. But the brainwashing is intense. It’s many years away, though, so it’s hard to say right now. I think it will mostly depend on where her friends will go. If the majority switches to the public, I won’t separate her from them and send her to the Christian. Or vice versa.

This is all relative, of course. Nobody teaches anything in real depth in this country. All secondary education is dumbed down to serve the lowest common denominator. So the “best students” in America would be considered retarded back in the USSR, let alone today in, say, China.

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It’s not so bad if you take AP classes, at least in science. My son’s physics, chemistry and bio classes were pretty intense. I don’t know how the AP classes stack up in humanities as my boys have zero interest in taking the more advanced classes in these subjects.

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Or do they just assume that the best students will learn from self study? That is pretty popular in the tech world.

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This sounds strange to not Americans:

“Delaying Algebra 1 until 9th grade, however, would require other high school math classes like Geometry, Algebra 2 and Pre-Calculus to be compressed so that students can reach AP Calculus by 12th grade. … integrating traditionally separate math classes goes hand-in-hand with open-ended inquiry. ”

In Israeli high schools one math teacher teaches everything that is in school program at math lessons.

Separate math classes are what happens in university, but not at school level.

Ditto for physics in which the same teacher teaches electricity, mechanics, optics and so on.

American high school seem to copy university system, is that so?

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In American high schools, a single math teacher will teach you in one year. Then in the next year, for the next class, the teacher you have depends on how many teachers there are and their course loads, as well as other things that can only be in a given period (certain music classes will always be period 2, for example, or always period 4). I had different math teachers each year of high school. Usually that teacher would teach the same level of math every year, but occasionally you’d end up with the same teacher multiple years in a row.

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“Delaying Algebra 1 until 9th grade”

I didn’t have algebra until the 10th grade. When I was being ground through the system there was nothing like national standards or AP classes and for the most part high schools weren’t that different from each other (apart from very large cities).

Not that many people went to (or especially wanted to) go to university so there wasn’t that much status whoring about extra-curricular activities or AP type classes.

This was still the great compression where the emphasis was getting some version of the basics to everybody and the idea was that the stars would self-select and that high school was still pretty young to be sorting or tracking people into life tracks. You had to have two years of math in high school to graduate.

I actually failed algebra in the 10th grade (had been put in the class of the toughest teacher in the school and didn’t pay attention and….. F for the year). I took it again and that time I paid attention and did the work and got an A.

Senior year I took geometry and couldn’t get into it (and the teacher was too nice)…

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At least in my state, highschool Algebra I is normally taught in 9th grade, Geometry in 10th, followed by Algebra II and III in grades 11 and 12. This is the minimal track for everyone. Calculus classes are considered advanced, and not available (or honestly necessary) to folks who don’t go on to a STEM field in college. There are also statistics classes, which are IMHO probably more important for general education of the populace than calculus, and programming classes that can also count toward math requirements. My two older kids have been accelerated and had Algebra I in 8th grade, Geometry in 9th, then Precalculus (Algebra II and III combined) in 10th grade, and then had 2 years of calculus (so-called Calculus AB and Calculus BC, which are considered AP (advanced placement) courses for which the student who scores high enough on the nationwide final exam can receive college credit). My youngest is accelerated further, and is currently having math 6/7 in 5th grade; he will have math 7/8 in 6th grade, then highschool Algebra I in 7th grade, and probably will be done with calculus in 11th grade. So far I have to say that, in terms of math, public schools have provided plenty of opportunity for differentiation. I still think that, in terms of science, they could be doing much more (it blows my mind that science is taught without a lick of math well into high school), and what I see for English and social sciences is OK, I suppose, but too repetitive and boring for kids who have a good head on their shoulders. It feels like the classes have 3x more time available than the content justifies.

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To be fair, calculus in high school isn’t even strictly necessary to go into a STEM program. It was good for a student like me, who was ahead in math, but even then the program I was in strongly recommended taking Calc I with my AP score. It definitely gave me a very small leg up in that class, but we didn’t even start using calculus in physics classes until the next semester, and by then everyone was taking Calc II and so were at the same level.

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Interesting idea re old age (in Russian) – the idea is in the post, not in the quote starting it:

https://antimeridiem.livejournal.com/1607048.html

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It was for many decades:

Algebra – 9th grade

Geometry – 10th

Advanced Algebra or Advanced Algebra + Trigonometry – 11th

Trigonometry (1 semester) – 12th, OR, in a school that had the staffing, Calculus too

BUT NOTE — This isn’t strictly necessary since even today serious math in college starts with calculus, and HS versions of calculus don’t necessarily cover all that is covered in college. So there’s no real reason to freak out about not doing calculus in HS.

At my current university calculus is a junior-level course, because they have so many remedial classes on offer. But it is still where the math major starts, and that’s the version of calculus you need for physics and engineering.

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This whole thing reminds me of an article that i read which claimed that reading to children was “racist”, because it advantaged children who were read to by their parents, most of whom were white.

Since I have quite a bit of experience with leftist academics, it seems obvious to me that education is being undermined by politically and ideologically motivated people so that graduates are as ignorant, and therefore as vulnerable to manipulation & exploitation, as possible.

I also think that this kind of thing is a crime against humanity, and would imprison anyone doing it for a very long time if it were up to me.

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