The Devastating Consequences Are Here

Being groped and hair-sniffed while you are grieving a terrible loss is devastating enough but I thought the devastating consequences upon Navalny’s murder were promised to his killers, not his family members.

14 thoughts on “The Devastating Consequences Are Here

    1. Navalny’s mother is battling the Putin regime to have her son’s body released for burial. People are saying that Putin is holding it for occult rites.

      In the meantime, this so-called widow is prancing around the world in expensive outfits, getting sniffed by world leaders. I’m starting to understand why the poor dude preferred to go to jail to staying at home with this incredible piece of work.

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      1. “body released for burial”

        According to generalsvr….. (again caveats!) the reason they’re holding it is that they’re afraid of biological…. samples reaching the west where the poison used to kill him might be discovered (not novichok this time but they don’t want a repeat of 2020).

        Of course they might also want the body for rituals… at his point nothing would surprise me…

        special bonus gossip: again, according to generalsvr…. Pashinyan’s statement about ‘freezing’ Armenian participation in CSTO (putin’s sad little NATO wannabe) was a shot aimed at the Kremlin – he knows putin the first is dead and in a fridge and now they’re nervous he might spill the tea (so to speak). I’m very doubtful about that one but it is amusing….

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        1. I don’t think they would have poisoned Navalny. They only poison when the target is far away and out of their hands. When the victim is on their territory, they shoot, beat, and brutalize. I can’t imagine Putin not wanting to see Navalny’s physical degradation and torture. Navalny was tall and broad-shouldered. A typical Russian look. Putin, on the other hand, is short and nothing like a traditional Russian богатырь. This must have made his animosity towards Navalny even stronger. We know he’s an envious, ego-wounded little bastard. Plus, he doesn’t even look Russian any more after all the plastic surgery (or being substituted with the Udmurt double).

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  1. An uncharacteristically cruel post and comment from you. I don’t see any groping or hair sniffing, just a normal hug of support. Also, what are these crimes for which you call Yulia “a piece of work”? Meeting with a powerful ally in the hopes of defeating her husband’s murderer (which is, incidentally, in the interest of all of us as well)? Failing to perform grief properly? These same criticisms were voiced by the despicable Simonyan et al, fyi.

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    1. I don’t like Nazis. Even the anti-Putin ones. These people are despicable. And that Biden would dispense hugs to the widow of Russia’s most famous Nazi while lecturing us incessantly about “white supremacists” is simply bizarre. Navalny called non-white people cockroaches that need to be exterminated. I can’t get over it. I don’t think he should have been killed. But he mustn’t be lionized either.

      I have never in my life listened to Simonyan but even a broken clock, you know.

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      1. Trust me, I don’t like those comments, either. However, that was back in 2007, and he has since apologized and changed quite a bit. You yourself believe that people can and do change, as I’ve read in many of your posts. I wonder what you think of his 2022 statement on the war against Ukraine, which to me sounds completely sane. 

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        1. I have no idea what he said in 2022. I wasn’t following this guy. He’s despicable. His wife is equally despicable. “This isn’t about the Russian people. This is all Putin.” It’s disgusting, immoral, and simply horrid. It ain’t bloody Putin raping toddlers in front of their mothers and torturing 87-year-old grandmas. She’s whitewashing the greatest evil of this century, and her husband’s body isn’t even cold yet.

          The legend of the bad tsar is the bane of Russia and the entire world. No, it’s not Putin who’s to blame. Putin is completely incidental to all this. We are doomed to repeating the same mistake all over again if we keep believing this absolute lie.

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          1. Specific individuals are guilty of the specific crimes they committed or ordered others to commit, including those Russians who committed atrocities. By holding individuals responsible for their crimes, among other things, you gradually change the culture (hopefully). Yes, it can take centuries. It seems meaningless to accuse this or that people as a whole, even if the number of criminals in one is higher than in another for whatever historical or cultural reasons. Because that accomplishes nothing. Of course, as a trauma response, this sentiment is more than understandable.

            And Putin may be incidental, but he is the one sitting on the nukes and several private armies protecting his person and, therefore, wields an unspeakable amount of toxic power, which none of those pathetic individual sadists have and which can yet harm millions of people in Ukraine and other countries. So it seems logical to start the change there, with unseating him specifically, and curate the choice of his replacement. One thing at a time.

            Also, although I generally have followed Navalny’s work for some time, I’m not sure which speech of his or his wife’s you are paraphrasing here, more specific wording would be helpful. Yes, the focus is on removing Putin, but I don’t remember either of them specifically “whitewashing”, i.e. denying, any of the crimes committed by Russians in the course of this war. Since you say you don’t follow Navalny and his wife (who, it appears, only made two public speeches so far) and find them despicable, perhaps you’re basing your opinion on someone else’s paraphrase. Feel free to prove me wrong.

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        2. “he has since apologized and changed quite a bit”

          I never bought that. Apparently he ‘evolved’ into denying he ever said some things (that he’s on video saying) and would get very aggressive if pushed on the issue.

          More tellingly he could say why he changed. I distrust changes in position that have no causes (like republican pearl clutching about the border after 40 years of ripping it open).

          The best description of Navalny was by a pro-putin write occasionally capable of modest insights… (paraphrasing) “He’s a guy who _really_ wants to be president of russia”. That seems to fit. I don’t necessarily believe he ever held strong positions on any issue but just said what he thought would get him a following in a particular place and time. It’s wrong that he was poisoned/imprisoned/killed but he should not have been nowhere any kind of real power.

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          1. OK, I can understand your position. Perhaps he wouldn’t have been the best leader. I think his major accomplishment is the anti-corruption work, the detailed and verifiable investigations, presented in an accessible way, eye-opening for many and a huge dent in the regime’s public image. They were excellent.

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          2. I agree completely. It’s terrible that he was murdered. Nobody should be murdered. But Navalny was in no way better than Putin. As imperialist, as racist, as conquest-oriented, and,most hilariously, quite corrupt.

            The only thing he had on Putin is being younger and taller.

            Russia has no opposition to speak of. Aside from Feygin (who’s very Jewish), Nevzorov (who’s very exotic), and Piontkovsky (who’s very old), there’s literally nobody.

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  2. Clarissa, I think the one thing that many people are missing is Biden was never supposed to be an active over achieving leader. He was the safe choice to beat Trump; that’s it. This is part of it, do the dumb meaningless gestures, keep the status quo as much as possible, don’t shake things up, etc. If anything, he has over achieved based off of what was expected of him.

    The big problem that I see is that he is yet AGAIN a candidate. In a more normal world, he would have simply announced he isn’t running again and let someone more competent, younger, and energetic take over. Maybe he would have done that if Trump had finally fucked off already, but I guess we’ll never know. What I don’t know, is how an 82 year old is going to run the country for the next four years if he wins in November. It feels almost like we’re living in some sort of dark satire world.

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